Those council flats in temple bar...

AARRRGH

Does anyone know the council flats in temple bar - they are behind the restaurant "elephant & castle" and "gallaghers"?

They are on the little side street, with the fishing shop (rods, clothes etc.) on the corner and they are red bricked, with lots of trees around them.

Aren't they just the coolest?!

How the **** can I get myself one of them?!?!

Does anyone know if they are still council flats? If they are, that's highly depressing...

lacuna

I think I know the ones you mean. I saw them a couple of years ago and swore that some day I'd have one for myself. Didn't know they were council flats.

Still, they are definitly the coolest flats I've ever seen.

Dellgirl

They are council flats. I wouldnt reccommend living in the area. Junkies hang around outside the m all the time cos its a quiet place to shoot up. bodies just lie behind the restaurants. Pretty disgusting evidene left from their little visites as well.
as well as that, the kids who live in the flats are horrors. I mean little f*****s who would rob you as soon as look at you. Better off away i think.

jamiecake

eeehhhh... dont think you would be saying this if you saw templebar 15years ago....

drunkenfool

don t think they're coucil flats anymore as ive seen alot of foreign types coming out of there,
its like seasme street!!!

impr0v

I got robbed while trying to buy drugs there in '96, it was dark so I couldn't see what was so cool about them.

Zaph0d

Crampton Buildings. I have a dim memory that
-they were privately owned
-they were about to be sold in the late 90's and there was a big fuss from the residents
-the council bought them up and let the residents stay on

MorningStar

drunkenfool wrote:

don t think they're coucil flats anymore as ive seen alot of foreign types coming out of there,
its like seasme street!!!

No they are council flats and there is a lot of problems with them one way or the other. The council tried to build a carpark underneath the current parking. Prostitutes keep sneaking in and having clients around. The smell from the restraunts wouldl probably drive you nuts too. The final thing that might bother you is the lack of decent plumbing. I heard the tenanats complaining about them a while back on the radio.
The long term residents want to stay and given the right to buy. There are a few newer residents. Generally the whole thing was accusations on the radio. Long term residents claiming the council aren't doing them up intentionally to get them to leave and the "new" tenants are also part of this. Anyway everybody knows they could be worth a lot of money but they aren't due to the tenants rights.
The other thing to note is the rental income in Temple Bar has dropped anyway due to the noise and many residents don't live there past 2 years and very few past 5.

drunkenfool

Yes, that all terrible but its seasme street, you can picture big bird and that little fella that lives in the trash cans, buzzing around there talking about the abc's and 123's. Its my dream and i refuse to believe that there is a "darker side" of seasme street. ie the prossies and the drugs...

Zaph0d

Here's the story:
http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/front/1998/1110/archive.98111000004.html

As for the original question: how do you get one? Well they are plenty of old tenants so the council must allocate their flats to someone when they die. You should ring them up and ask them and let us know when you find out.

When people living in council flats die, do their families get first dibs on the tenancy?

MorningStar

Zaph0d wrote:

When people living in council flats die, do their families get first dibs on the tenancy?

Waiting lists. You are allocated a property by being on a waiting list. Your position is determined by your circumstances e.g. single mother with two kids is over a man on his own. If she has another kid she gets further up the list. Some people claim some people have another child to get a place too! Nothing new either my Gran admitt to having my aunt for the same reason 60 years ago! 4 children family got you a 3 bed in Donnycarney and they eventually bought it when the right to buy came up. Now worth about €360k

Family don't get rights unless they live there. Then they do. A common scam is to keep claiming you live with a elderly relative and claiming the property when they die. It used to be just to get a property but some are doing it to get the right to buy and sell it on or even rent it out.

Zaph0d

MorningStar wrote:

Family don't get rights unless they live there. Then they do. A common scam is to keep claiming you live with a elderly relative and claiming the property when they die. It used to be just to get a property but some are doing it to get the right to buy and sell it on or even rent it out.

Do you need permission from the council to move in with a council tenant? eg If your granny is in a 2-bed council flat can you move in with her and then hang on for the payout?

cashback

Just walked by them the other day and thought how cool they looked. Pity the reality doesn't sound so good.

mad m

Well cool or not,place is full of signs to tell you/warn you about Weils disease.

mad m

Zaph0d wrote:

Do you need permission from the council to move in with a council tenant? eg If your granny is in a 2-bed council flat can you move in with her and then hang on for the payout?

Well I dont think you need permission,but if they find out you are living there and helping her out etc,she might lose some if not all her free stuff,like rental on phone/half price this that...

Best bet would goto a local Regional Office or ring them and ask.Whats this payout thing?

MorningStar

mad m wrote:

Well I dont think you need permission,but if they find out you are living there and helping her out etc,she might lose some if not all her free stuff,like rental on phone/half price this that...

Best bet would goto a local Regional Office or ring them and ask.Whats this payout thing?

If you move in with an elderly relative it does not stop them being entitled to what they are entitled to such as the phone. You may not get services like meals on wheels but you can still get them. It depends on the council rules in some cases.

The pay off was getting the right to buy the council property cheap or cheap rent. I know of one person who is getting rent allowance , disability and also claiming to she still lives with her mother so she can get the house when the mother dies. Now she has MS and is a single mother yet she is still screwing the system. At least one social welfare officer knows what is going on and lets it slide. I really hate people screwing the system but when you get down to the details it nevers seems anyway fair.