Non Veggie "veggie food"

bohsman · 27-08-2005 8:00am #1

Having worked in Burger King and Supermacs I can tell you that in Supermacs chances are the veggie burgers have been done in the same oil as fish whereas in Burger King the veggie burgers should be ok as theyre microwaved but the beanburgers and chips are done in the same oil as chicken

Any other products that should be ok but arent?

Tar.Aldarion · 27-08-2005 6:30pm

thanks for those ones,its not i ever eat that crap but it is good to know!
i don't know any as i have not worked as a cook anywhere...

kawaii · 27-08-2005 9:26pm

:eek:

Who'da thunk it!?

Gone West · 27-08-2005 9:28pm

Hehe.

We used to put all sorts of crap into the 'veggie' food part of the deli at work.
Veggie pizza made to order with ham mixed in under the cheese.
etc.

Tar.Aldarion · 27-08-2005 9:34pm

why?

Gone West · 27-08-2005 10:21pm

Bored at work.
Low paying job.
The hilarity.
Only done it to idiots.
QED

Tar.Aldarion · 27-08-2005 10:46pm

some people would knck ya out for that,after they puked of course

Gone West · 28-08-2005 1:31pm

Aye.
I know.
But they were real assholes.
tbh.

Gadgie · 28-08-2005 4:23pm

FuzzyLogic wrote:

Bored at work.
Low paying job.
The hilarity.
Only done it to idiots.
QED

How hi-larious. You should talk to RTE Two about getting your own amusing Monday night comedy programme.

kawaii · 28-08-2005 4:25pm

I'm sensing some sarcasm here...

Tar.Aldarion · 28-08-2005 4:47pm

The force is strong within you.

kawaii · 28-08-2005 4:55pm

My sarky senses are tingling...

Gilgamesh · 30-08-2005 2:24pm

Tar.Aldarion wrote:

some people would knck ya out for that,after they puked of course

so true, but then again they wouldn't have the strength to do so

Tar.Aldarion · 01-09-2005 3:22pm

im fairly certain that i would be in some mood and might pull it off

Gilgamesh · 01-09-2005 3:29pm

Tar.Aldarion wrote:

im fairly certain that i would be in some mood and might pull it off

you mean knock me out?

could be fun

Capt'n Midnight · 01-09-2005 10:46pm

The real kick in the teeth is Soya. Most of it contains GMO Soya ,and I reckon many vegetarians would rather something organic given the choice.

And I've seen things labelled as "suitable for Vegetarians" even though they contains egg.

plink · 01-09-2005 11:23pm

Capt'n Midnight wrote:

And I've seen things labelled as "suitable for Vegetarians" even though they contains egg.

yeh...but most veggies eat dairy products??
i mean hey, i've seen things like bottled water and beetroot labled suitable for vegetarians...i mean duh!

Degsy · 02-09-2005 3:24pm

What about the thousands of innocent bacteria in your so-called 'veggie' food?Do they have no rights because of thier size?It would seem so-called vegetarians just dont care..

plink · 02-09-2005 8:24pm

Degsy wrote:

What about the thousands of innocent bacteria in your so-called 'veggie' food?Do they have no rights because of thier size?It would seem so-called vegetarians just dont care..

huh??

Gadgie · 02-09-2005 8:31pm

plink wrote:

huh??

Don't worry - it's just another comedian.

vibrant · 03-09-2005 3:09pm

bohsman wrote:

Burger King the veggie burgers should be ok as theyre microwaved but the beanburgers and chips are done in the same oil as chicken

Really? I've had the bean burger a few times, and noticed that it was microwaved (not fried). Even heard the microwave beep when it was ready! Unless it was fried earlier and then just re-heated on request?

bohsman · 04-09-2005 12:52pm

vibrant wrote:

Really? I've had the bean burger a few times, and noticed that it was microwaved (not fried). Even heard the microwave beep when it was ready! Unless it was fried earlier and then just re-heated on request?

The veggie burgers are microwaved, unless theyve changed the beanburgers recently but it would be impossible to reheat them after taking them out of the oil, the fryers make a similar but louder beeping than microwaves

vibrant · 04-09-2005 6:51pm

Ah, feck

Degsy · 07-09-2005 11:57am

Gadgie wrote:

Don't worry - it's just another comedian.

Humour...Vegetarianism...N'er the twain shall meet,eh?

Blub2k4 · 07-09-2005 12:43pm

Degsy wrote:

Humour...Vegetarianism...N'er the twain shall meet,eh?

You missed the master class on vegetarianism and are bitter about it am I right?

You're right on the humour thing though, all those hindus, not even a giggle I tell you.

pinkv · 08-09-2005 6:36pm

plink wrote:

yeh...but most veggies eat dairy products??
i mean hey, i've seen things like bottled water and beetroot labled suitable for vegetarians...i mean duh!

There are many so called 'obviously vegetarian' products that actually have hidden animal produts/byproducts in them. For example, Heinz tomato ketchup at my last check was not suitable for a vegetarian diet, something that could possibly have been recently changed. Also a big factor that usually catches vegetarians out are E numbers, many food colourings, preservatives, stabilisers etc. contain non-vegetarian products. Certain wines contain a fish byproduct, which is rarely labeled on the bottle. If you are looking for wine, I would recomend Tesco & Marks & spencers as they clearly label wine which vegies can drink. These are just a few things that make the life of veggies rather difficult & if food manufactuers have the decency to clearly label products for us, the least we can do is appreciate it.

Blisterman · 08-09-2005 6:40pm

Maybe you shouldn't be so pedantic about vegatarianism.

Tar.Aldarion · 08-09-2005 7:25pm

Blisterman wrote:

Maybe you shouldn't be so pedantic about vegatarianism.

why shouldn't people be?It's what they belief,it's not like it is going to be some half hearted effort.

sweet-rasmus · 08-09-2005 11:21pm

omg, i did know all that. wines with fish products?! crazy! and the ketchup... insane!! thx for the info!!!! i'll be checkin it out!

PoiBoi_Patch · 08-09-2005 11:26pm

oh dawling tis indeed a meer discombobulation of the carnicours mind!!!

Degsy · 09-09-2005 11:49am

Tar.Aldarion wrote:

why shouldn't people be?It's what they belief,it's not like it is going to be some half hearted effort.

Why shouldnt people be?Because its BORING thats why.Nobody gives a damn about petty,self-righteous idealism.

Sangre · 09-09-2005 11:56am

Capt'n Midnight wrote:

The real kick in the teeth is Soya. Most of it contains GMO Soya ,and I reckon many vegetarians would rather something organic given the choice.

And I've seen things labelled as "suitable for Vegetarians" even though they contains egg.

Surely thats why they labelled it suitable for vegetarians and not vegans?

Tar.Aldarion · 09-09-2005 2:57pm

Degsy wrote:

Because its BORING thats why.Nobody gives a damn about petty,self-righteous idealism.

oh yes it is Boring,that is truely a great point.It is boring that somebody doesn't want to eat some foods yet you keep reading a thread about it.nobody wants to hear about it?you keep coming back reading it no?

seamus · 09-09-2005 3:02pm

Degsy, if you've nothing to contribute, go away. I'll ban you the next time you bother with your semi-trolling crap.

Edit: Banned actually. WWM warned you yesterday.

Tar.Aldarion · 09-09-2005 3:25pm

WhiteWashMan wrote:

exceedingly humourous, however, please stop trolling the vegetarian forum, or i will ban you.

Every post you have made in here would lead to a similar response if a mod saw it so please say something that contributes or go away.

edit:seamus edited so my post is invalid

miss serena · 09-09-2005 3:38pm

Capt'n Midnight wrote:

And I've seen things labelled as "suitable for Vegetarians" even though they contains egg.

Egg is ok once they haven't been fertilised, as in there's no cock hanging around with the chickens. I wish I didn't know about these things!

Anyways, I went/was forced into McDonalds (don't ask!) one day and asked what was the vegetarian option. The girl behind the counter looked really puzzled and said the chicken burger or the fish burger!!!!!!! Seriously!

DaisyDuke · 20-09-2005 4:06pm

Heinz ketchup has been veggie for years - it's the only ketchup I've eaten since was in nappies.
McDonalds use rapeseed oil for frying with. Chips are done separate to everything else. One set of vats for chicken, then usually just one for fish and one for veggie burgers and apple pies.
The chips are actually bought from McCain's in Ireland, and are basically the same as you buy in the supermarket. No lard there.

Course, it depends on the branch. Some of em are great, others are lazy feckers.
The veggie burgers there are pretty ick though..

Washout · 21-09-2005 4:36pm

bohsman wrote:

The veggie burgers are microwaved, unless theyve changed the beanburgers recently but it would be impossible to reheat them after taking them out of the oil, the fryers make a similar but louder beeping than microwaves

was in burger king on O connell street and in Jervis street and they dont seem to do the veggie or bean burger anymore...is that true?

Peanut · 21-09-2005 4:49pm

DaisyDuke wrote:

McDonalds use rapeseed oil for frying with. Chips are done separate to everything else. One set of vats for chicken, then usually just one for fish and one for veggie burgers and apple pies.

If I have to :rolleyes: , I'd just about trust the larger McDonalds and BK to have veggie chips but would be wary of the smaller ones... as for Supermacs, I don't think they give that much of a toss, which is a shame really considering their raw materials look better (they don't seem to use big dirty blocks of hydrogenated oil in their friers as opposed to the multinationals & the potatoes seem fresher)

Capt'n Midnight · 21-09-2005 9:28pm

oddly enough the tinned "chilli con carne" has been veggie for ages
(Batchelors ? kidney beans in sauce)

Yipidee · 07-10-2005 8:41pm

miss serena wrote:

Egg is ok once they haven't been fertilised, as in there's no cock hanging around with the chickens. I wish I didn't know about these things!

Miss Serena, that's interesting... am a novice with all this but long-interested in the question of what eggs become chickens and what (if any) don't. Can you or anyone else educate me, perhaps provide a link to an authoritative source on the web? (Once went out with a girl of the Jain religion who officially wasn't meant to eat anything made with eggs because, I think, they were life).

Thanks.

Tar.Aldarion · 08-10-2005 3:05pm

95-99% of eggs that people eat are not fertilised.This means they are just eggs and would not have become chicks.After an egg is one week old you can shine a bright light near it and you can see if there is a chick or just yolk or whatever.Few eggs are fertilized but some would be and as these are not cared for by the mother keeping them warm etc no chick is formed.

Yipidee · 15-10-2005 6:54pm

Thanks for clearing that up TarAldrion. Follow up question: presumably all fertilised eggs are removed from the eggs distributed to the shops? Or not? (If not, then from what you've written does it follow that all someone would have to do to "form" the chick is to keep the egg warm?)

Tar.Aldarion · 16-10-2005 12:27pm

Yipidee wrote:

Thanks for clearing that up TarAldrion. Follow up question: presumably all fertilised eggs are removed from the eggs distributed to the shops? Or not? (If not, then from what you've written does it follow that all someone would have to do to "form" the chick is to keep the egg warm?)

AFAIK they shine a blue light on eggs to make sure they have no been fertilised but I believe they cannot always get it right whether it be due to the sheer number they produce or laziness on the checkers part.I think they are becoming more strick because when people find a foetus in their egg it's not very good for business as you can imagine.That happened last year to the girl living next door to me and she ran over in hysterics to get me to remove it.
As for your latter statement,yes if you kept it in the right conditions(under the correct heating using the specially designed bulbs) it would hatch and I believe I saw a story on the news a good while ago where a woman had done just this and she hd done it a good few times.I think this story led to or should have led to tighted measures in the industry.

Non Veggie "veggie food"

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