Kickboxing

the_rook

Hello,

I'm looking to join a kickboxing gym in dublin. I want something that's as close to boxing as possible in terms of how it works but with kicks. I think there is one near north strand? I'm aware of Bridgestone and I'm looking for an alternative. I'm not looking for the kenpo style kickboxing gyms. Anyone any advice?

JohnMc1

Check the Clubs in your area thread here. If you are looking for Full Contact Kickboxing gyms. If that doesn't help check the Kickboxing board on irmac.net

the_rook

Good luck to checking that CLubs in your area thread.

I just realised that Kickboxing gyms don't usually knee do they? I think I'll go down to Bridgestone next week and see what it's like.

Colm_OReilly

Why would you want an alternative to Bridgestone?

the_rook

Rhetorical Question? Location is a slight issue. But really I just wanted to see if there was an alternative.

RedRaven

the_rook wrote:

Good luck to checking that CLubs in your area thread.

I just realised that Kickboxing gyms don't usually knee do they? I think I'll go down to Bridgestone next week and see what it's like.

Shorts,t-shirt,handwraps,groin guard, gumshield,balls!!;) These you will need to train at Bridgestone!!

cavedave

Shorts,t-shirt,handwraps,groin guard, gumshield,balls!!

Surely you could do without #4 if you dont have #6?

RedRaven

cavedave wrote:

Surely you could do without #4 if you dont have #6?

Well we do have female fighters at the club too so #4 is still valid even if you dont have #6!!;)

paddyc

not only are bstone fighters fast and sharp in the ring... we also fast and sharp on the old forums as well

paddy

RedRaven

paddyc wrote:

not only are bstone fighters fast and sharp in the ring... we also fast and sharp on the old forums as well

paddy

......And S/T knows best!!!

JohnMc1

the_rook wrote:

Good luck to checking that CLubs in your area thread.

I just realised that Kickboxing gyms don't usually knee do they? I think I'll go down to Bridgestone next week and see what it's like.

Thanks rook. Full Contact Kickboxing has no elbows or knees or low kicks and clinch and an 8 kick minimum. Its mostly karate style kicks and stuff. If I was closer to Dublin I would definately go to Bridgestone.

paddyc

i am not a T... we ARE lions !!!!

vasch_ro

I think there is a kick boxing club in Synge Street....
Gan Teora or something like that

you could also try this link
http://gofree.indigo.ie/~mugendo/

RedRaven

paddyc wrote:

i am not a T... we ARE lions !!!!

Rockin,Cockin and Roarin all the way!!!!:):)

Millionaire

alot of Thai people emmigrated to holland in the 70s for a start.

me buddy Indra James (van van der berg) (doing KM instructor course in israel for one month this summer) with me and he's just below getting into pride. and thign is hes a bud of hoost and says they actually train pretty gently over in Voos gym!

he was in the old fairtex with Kaman and deccker years ago. he explained to me they trained hard but thai was not about beating the crap out of each other.

Roper

I've heard that about Vos gym off a bloke I know went over for two weeks. Said they were cool, easy going and the focus wasn't on being a hardy bloke, more on building the skills. Tough as f*ck he said in terms of the training, you'd be sore and nursing a bruise or two, but not so much as you wouldn't train the next night.

Best way to be IMO

Dave Joyce

Ernesto, I have on occasions been accused of being a Muaythai "snob" like a lot of the lads who post here, but that is because we believe in training Thai style AND keeping their customs and heritage alive. We believe there is a world of difference in this very old traditional system and the modern "sport" of kickboxing. However, I remember having this discussion with Fred Royers (commentator occasionaly on Eurosport and one time WKA Euro President back in the day) and he said the Dutch don't really care they just want to fight and will fight under any kind of rules. Also they don't generally give a s
**** about customs etc and I have rarely seen a Dutch fighter do the Wai Kru.

The fighter you refer to is Kaoklai Kaenorsing who is about 78kgs and only 5'8" and fights allcomers in K1 and has had some really ****ty decisions given against him.

Musashi

I saw (cut and paste) Kaoklai Kaenorsing fight a huge Korean wrestler in K1 and he should have won! He's all heart and sinew, a terror in the ring. He's one of the toughest fighters of any size I've ever seen.If he was the size of Crocop it'd be some match to see! I'm not sure, but I reckon pound for pound Kaoklai Kaenorsing is one of the toughest and best stand up striking exponents in the game today.

And I'd agree about the Wai Kru and tradition in the Thai, and Krabi Krabong.
Saw "Ong Bak" lately and Tony Jaa is like a young Chan, good flick.What surprised me, and I dunno if it was accurate, was the forms type stuff he was doing outside the village temple? Dave? Are those moves/names trad. Thai?
His turning kick to the neck/trapezius is a crippler too Some of the diving knee strikes were a bit much, but overall a good showing of some savage striking power.

Millionaire

I got a Thai training DVD recently called the "noble art of muay thai" , the real Traditional Style . Its very interesting to watch and see how the technique is slightly different. As I am a thai beginner its good for me to get that background on thai.

breadmonkey

Ernesto_Whoost wrote:

Anyone like to explain what's the story with the Dutch and Thai boxing. I think COlum was telling me that they all started doing Kickboxing and then transferred near the end. Hoost, Aerts, Bonjaski all seem class thai boxers? Is this true?

I get the impression a lot of people in Thai like to confirm a Thai Boxers worth by saying "he fought in thailand against the best thais" but i really can't imagine any 6 foot 4 105 kilo thai's fighting Hoost.

Hmm, I'm no expert but i only remember 1 thai in K1 and that was quite recently. he was much smaller that the other dudes but was awesome, lost on a decision to one of the famous dudes in the semi final of a gp.

any info welcome.

Have a quick read through this thread

Dave Joyce

Hey guys, ahhhh Ong Bak one of my lads gave me a loan of the DVD and I watched while all the Sayoc/Atienza guys were here in April and guess what, I friggin well fell asleep :eek: during the film. I have since tried to watch it again but now I can't find the bloody thing and my student is looking for his DVD to be returned!! So unfortunately I don't know the scene in the film Mush, but I remember the first time I seen old style Thai in Bangkok and at first thought the low stances looked more like Karate, but once they started moving and doing techniques, it blew me away. I can honestly tell you guys there are very few people left who know old style Thai (Muay Boran etc) very well, (no money to be made at it in Thailand and very little interest there also), but we have probley one of the best exponents of it here in this country. Frankie Mc Conville in Belfast is an excellant practisioner of Muay Boran and if you are interested in this you really should train with him. In fact (plug, plug) there will be a South East Asian seminar held in Belfast in November and Frankie will be teaching at it, well worth while.

Millionaire

Is Muay Boran traditional style muay this?

a dutch thai expert was telling me too about something called "the 3 ways of muay thai" or 3 ways of kicking...???? whats that?

Also I hear that is was some sort of ground fighting system in it too but few know it?

Musashi

The correct PC term is "Knife Knut" and I have a few support groups Dave, they are called British Blades,Bladeforums,SelfDefenseForums or Knife Center of the internet.

BLUNT

Just a line on the ground fighting of Siam.......one guy was asking,it's called Kucing ( cat ) and like an other style I'm studying got lost in the jungles of
Sumatra and is still there to this day.I'm a ole friend of both Dave and Frank's
and still share thing's with Frank on this ground style.Aint nothing new under the Sun.....it's just you have to be double tuff and have plenty of time on yer hand's to learn all,this stuff.As for Kickboxing....dont like it...MuayThai
"all day long" ( as sports go ) but have to say as a kid,I really liked Benny da Jet....outstanding fighter."Kernal kertz" aka Frank Mc Conville.......is a first class
Kru of everything ole & new about the Thai's method's of fighting.As for the seminar ( my fault ) it's go'en to be in the New Year....stay tunned.....JC

breadmonkey

Yes, he did give colum a nice burning alright!

RedRaven

Musashi wrote:

I saw (cut and paste) Kaoklai Kaenorsing fight a huge Korean wrestler in K1 and he should have won! He's all heart and sinew, a terror in the ring. He's one of the toughest fighters of any size I've ever seen.If he was the size of Crocop it'd be some match to see! I'm not sure, but I reckon pound for pound Kaoklai Kaenorsing is one of the toughest and best stand up striking exponents in the game today.

And I'd agree about the Wai Kru and tradition in the Thai, and Krabi Krabong.
Saw "Ong Bak" lately and Tony Jaa is like a young Chan, good flick.What surprised me, and I dunno if it was accurate, was the forms type stuff he was doing outside the village temple? Dave? Are those moves/names trad. Thai?
His turning kick to the neck/trapezius is a crippler too Some of the diving knee strikes were a bit much, but overall a good showing of some savage striking power.

Yeah he beat the korean guy but the judges gave it to the korean, but the event was held in korea and the k1 officials are trying to promote k1 in korea so figure that one out yourself, also the jap judges have a bone to pic with the Thai lads kaowklai and paramuk for constantly hammering the jap fighters!!!:):)