Tarot is BS

FX Meister

I called Irish Psychics Live last month about my two missing passports. Cost €20, luckily I wasn't paying. I was assured that they were not lost at home and that I lost them in a very busy and public place. I was also told they would be returned to me by someone handing them in to the Gardai.
I finally found them last night, in my living room, wedged in the side of my stereo. So, proof that tarot is bs? Do IPL hire goons? Can I ask for a refund?

Nevyn

ok so you rang a preium phone number to talk to some susposed Physics
who's rep you could not check out fed them wrong information and are now
bitch you were ripped off.

You were ripped off when you dialed that number imho.

Yes most of those phone lines are bullshít that does not make
the acient use or practice of Tarot a heap of bull.

FX Meister

No, they fed me wrong info, I didn't feed them any wrong info. I wasn't ripped off money wise as it didn't cost me anything. The gave me completely wrong info, not much help at all really. But to be honest it's what I expected.

FX Meister

No no no, psychics, the paranormal kind, not physics, the science.

Thaed wrote:

ok so you rang a preium phone number to talk to some susposed Physics

Zillah

Here's a hypothetical situation for you. You're very ill. I walk up to you and say "I am a doctor" and you don't ask for any proof, or even ask some friends to see if they've heard of me. I then hand you some pills, you eat them without hesitation and three days later, shock horror, you're not cured. Does this mean modern medicine is BS?

Bard

Zillah wrote:

Here's a hypothetical situation for you. You're very ill. I walk up to you and say "I am a doctor" and you don't ask for any proof, or even ask some friends to see if they've heard of me. I then hand you some pills, you eat them without hesitation and three days later, shock horror, you're not cured. Does this mean modern medicine is BS?

It means that YOUR medicine is.

Zillah

Bard wrote:

It means that YOUR medicine is.

No, it mean that what im doing isn't medicine. And what I did should have no reflection on the field of modern medicine at all.

stevenmu

In general, people with a genuine gift seem to think that they shouldn't profit from it, or at most charge enough to keep themselves going so that they can afford to provide the service they do. At the prices IPL charge, they obviously make huge profits, in fact I seem to remember something about the owner having booked one of the first private flights into space, which rules them out as a genuine psychic organisation in my opinion. Altough I have heard some very positive feedback from some people, which suggests that they probably have at least some genuinly talented people.

Also, to extend Zillah's example, even the best doctor in the world could mis-diagnose a patient and give them something that doesn't help, or even make them worse. Similarly, I'm sure that even the best of psychics often make mistakes. The ability of people to make mistake extends to all aspects of human life.

FX Meister

And they pay some really crap rate as well. Something like 70c per minute for when you are on call.

If a you walked up to me ans said you were a doctor I'd probably think you were a nut. If I want to see a doctor I'll go to the hospital or doctor surgery. Just like if you want tarot read you go to IPL. As for comparing the two, I could be wrong but as far as I can remember, becomming a doctor is a little tougher than learing to reading a deck of cards.

Oryx

When ringing IPL the chances of getting a good psychic are about the same as phoning a sex line and talking to a sexy girl in lingerie, (and not someones middle aged mum )
These lines use anonymous people, you dont know who you will get before you phone, and I would expect most people dont ask specific questions like you did, it would be more in the vein of "will I find love?" which are easier to waffle an answer - just my perception of it.
Anyone who is actually quite good, will usually gain a reputation through word of mouth, not through blanket press advertising. They put their name out there and if they are useless, they simply wont get the work.
I am a firm believer in the usefulness of psychics, and in the ability of quite a few, but I think phoning a business premium line like IPL is akin to ordering Crazy Frog. -A silly thing to do.

6th

stevenmu wrote:

In general, people with a genuine gift seem to think that they shouldn't profit from it, or at most charge enough to keep themselves going so that they can afford to provide the service they do. At the prices IPL charge, they obviously make huge profits, in fact I seem to remember something about the owner having booked one of the first private flights into space, which rules them out as a genuine psychic organisation in my opinion....

I hate to say it but i dont agree, why should this particualr gift be seen any differently than any other .... should people with a great talent for art not make money from it for fear of being considered lesser beings?

If someone works in McDonalds and has a psychic gift, i'd not hold it against them if they said "hey ... i'd love to be able to do something i believe i could make a difference at". What do they do then ... risk starting their own business or look for a company like IPL, i know what i'd do.

6th

landser

FX Meister wrote:

I called Irish Psychics Live last month about my two missing passports. Cost €20, luckily I wasn't paying. I was assured that they were not lost at home and that I lost them in a very busy and public place. I was also told they would be returned to me by someone handing them in to the Gardai.
I finally found them last night, in my living room, wedged in the side of my stereo. So, proof that tarot is bs? Do IPL hire goons? Can I ask for a refund?

fools and their money.... did you really expect anything else to be the result of your folly.

stevenmu

dublin6th wrote:

I hate to say it but i dont agree, why should this particualr gift be seen any differently than any other .... should people with a great talent for art not make money from it for fear of being considered lesser beings?

If someone works in McDonalds and has a psychic gift, i'd not hold it against them if they said "hey ... i'd love to be able to do something i believe i could make a difference at". What do they do then ... risk starting their own business or look for a company like IPL, i know what i'd do.

6th

I think you're actually kind of agreeing with what I meant. Your hypothetical McDonalds worker is a genuine person, wanting to do something with their gift while earning a living. Some of the companies that run these kind of services only care about making huge amounts of money, which is fair enough in it's own right, that's all companies exist to do, but they don't care about hiring genuine people who help customers, they charge customers huge amounts and then lure them back by giving vague, incomplete, and probably made up information. A friend of mine used to ring these kind of lines and would be told things along the lines of "you'll fall in love, but the details aren't clear, ring back in a few days for more.". At one stage she was paying over €100 a week and getting nothing in return.

I'm not saying IPL specifically do this, I'm sure there are companies which show more scruples, and probably many genuine people working for them, but there are companies and people who do.

FX Meister

A little knowledge is a dangerous....... I think you seem to be the fool mate. If you read my posts you would have read that I didn't pay for the call, not a single penny.

landser wrote:

fools and their money.... did you really expect anything else to be the result of your folly.

Nevyn

No but someone has to...
not very nice for them to be stuck wiht that on thier bill.

Kernel

KatieK wrote:

about the same as phoning a sex line and talking to a sexy girl in lingerie, (and not someones middle aged mum )

Damn.. that was a waste of good money so... anyway I can sue for false advertising???

Laguna

FX Meister wrote:

I called Irish Psychics Live last month about my two missing passports. Cost €20, luckily I wasn't paying. I was assured that they were not lost at home and that I lost them in a very busy and public place. I was also told they would be returned to me by someone handing them in to the Gardai.
I finally found them last night, in my living room, wedged in the side of my stereo. So, proof that tarot is bs? Do IPL hire goons? Can I ask for a refund?

Aren't all phone 'Psychics' channelling through their rectum anyway? lol.. I think if a person is truly 'tuned in' they wouldn't go around advertising it as flagrantly as Irish Dike Chicks

Ry

I have to say. My mother got me to go to a tarot reader friend of hers who happens to have a tarot slot on a radio station too. She's the one in Blackrock market and man she kicked ass. I was never into it and I was the typical cynic but she was telling me stuff about myself that ONLY I know and would know before going into the future and stuff like that but first she was telling me about what kind of person I am and without going into detail trust me she told me details that are things ONLY I know about myself which really was scary. You may scoff and say "bah it was probably generalisations or lucky guesses" but no this stuff is WEIRD about me and she got it

I really recommend arranging an appointment with her if you're going to go to a tarot reader because she's a Class A reader tbh. She also records the whole reading so you can replay it back at home or whatever on a cassette player.

Ry

magnumlady

I had a great tarot reading done years ago, it was on a tape and it all came true. So I suppose it just depends on the reader. I have had some rubbish ones done as well.
I wouldn't phone a psychic line though, I think they are a complete waste of money and do agree with Katie about the sex lines. I heard from someone that used to do that. She would just be doing her ironing and talking dirty! And she was about 50!

FX Meister

Yeah, I know a chick who was from Portugal who was doing her doctorate on anthropology in London, really fit and good looking. She did those sex lines too for a while. The money was good.

landser

FX Meister wrote:

A little knowledge is a dangerous....... I think you seem to be the fool mate. If you read my posts you would have read that I didn't pay for the call, not a single penny.

OK then: fools, who let you use their telephone, and their money....