Asian / Irish relatonships

markb143

Has anybody got experience of a relationship with Asian girls (or Irish guys, ladies!)? Lately I’ve been noticing lots of really good looking and genuinely nice Asian girls around and would like to get more friendly with some……..

but first I’d like to know how cultural differences could affect a (potential) westerner/asian relationship? Positive and negative…..!
Where’s the best place to meet? as most aren’t into the pub/club scene

shellby

are you trying to meet specifically asian women?

markb143

first i'd like to get to know more about peoples (both westener and asian) experience of relationships with each other.....

Nevyn

There are many diffent aisan cultures.
There are some things that you can learn that are common to a lot of them.
Do some searching about use google
and search for customs and behaviour and honour and saving face.

Yes you are better of learning what type of behaviour is offensive before
appraoching some one.

markb143

Thanks Thaed, i've done some reading about the customs and behaviour of many asian cultures and have learnt alot - stuff that seemed strange to me became understandable afterwards!
How much is the social scene different to the irish one?
Whats the general perception of Irish guys?

kawaii

There are a LOT of asian girls with Irish bfs atm.

A lot of asians really dig westerners... hence the whole trying to look western etc...

Not all of them though, never stereotype or anything, you'll come across as ignorant.

Morrigan

First of all, it might be a good idea to undestand that "Asian" can mean Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Thai, Mongolian etc etc., all of which have very different cultures and societies. And that's before we even get to the individual's own personality. So go a bit deeper and don't tar them all with the same brush.
Do you actually have any particular girl in mind or are you thinking any girl from east of the Ural mountain range. Are you inclunding South Asian (India, Bangladesh etc) girls in that too?

markb143

I should have specified Im talking about the far east - ie: China, Taiwan, Japan, Korea - I def don't tar all with the same brush.
I used the term asian in my orginal question as a generalisation because i wasn't expecting much of a response if i specified one culture or country - as Thaed said, there are some things that you can learn that are common to a lot of far east cultures. sorry if it came across in a bad way!

AARRRGH

My ex is Asian (Korea.)

The cultural differences are HUGE. Really. You don't realise it until you're with them. They are pretty much the opposite to Irish people.

And they have really weird logic on things. For example, Asian women will put up with their boyfriends/husbands beating them (it's "normal") but will not put up with laziness (I'm generalising, but laziness is kind of a male Irish trait.)

Yes, Asians look great, but they will wreck your head.

Also, they really like following "rules". Very law abiding etc. But to a retarded degree. For example, I read about a fire in a restaurant in Japan. Loads of people died. It wasn't because the exits were locked or something, but because everyone was too polite to leave the restaurant without paying. This would totally never happen in Ireland.

In summary -

If you are looking for a beautiful girlfriend who will be VERY respectful, very demanding, very submissive in bed... and you are looking for drama, lot of head wrecking moments, and seriously dumbed down conversations (I find it difficult to have intelligent conversations with Asian women - I don't know if it's a language thing or what), then Asian women are for you...

Be warned. But everyone should try one once

Lex_Diamonds

dublindude wrote:

For example, I read about a fire in a restaurant in Japan. Loads of people died. It wasn't because the exits were locked or something, but because everyone was too polite to leave the restaurant without paying. This would totally never happen in Ireland.

Give me a ****ing break man. :rolleyes:


As for the OP, try and find one that is westernised or as the quoted poster above said, your head will be wrecked.

Gazza22

Lex_Diamonds wrote:

Give me a ****ing break man. :rolleyes:

AARRRGH

Lex_Diamonds wrote:

Give me a ****ing break man. :rolleyes:

It's true! I'm seriously not joking!

nesf

dublindude wrote:

It's true! I'm seriously not joking!

Link to the article then. I'm curious as to your source.



To the OP:

Asian women are very different to Irish women in some ways, but I'd be slow to generalise them. Some have changed quite a bit since coming here, some haven't. It's really something that's very individual about them.

One I used to know was very Irish. She'd been here since she was 8/9 when her family moved over. You couldn't fit her into an "asian stereotype" despite the way she looked.

I'd personally, just be polite and wait until you meet one that you get along with. Then start to learn about her culture from her. She might appreciate the interest.

Then again, never having been in a relationship with an asian girl, what do I know.

Victor

nesf wrote:

Link to the article then. I'm curious as to your source.

Many moons ago I worked in a McDonalds. Somebody stubbed out (or not) their cigarette on a silk flower. People had to be arrested to make them leave.

Laguna

Lex_Diamonds wrote:

As for the OP, try and find one that is westernised or as the quoted poster above said, your head will be wrecked.

Are we talking about Golden Retrievers here? Hello? These are people you know? Who says we in the west have it right with social etiquette and all those "Colonial" types "East of the urals" need to be Westernised? I think the OP should stop aiming to go out with an Asian girl, if you meet an asian girl and click then good for you, you'll only be disappointed if you target a particular nationality of girl just because she's asian/whatever, as you'll comprimise on other factors that are important when you decide to have a relationship with a someone. "Ah she wrecks my head, **** it, she's asian, I'll hold out a while longer" wtf?

Zillah

I would not be suprised if the story about the fire in Japan was true. The Japanese are huge on social etiquette. Correct behaviour is very important in East Asian society in general, but Japan especially so.

You can say all sorts of things about Asia and Asians, and you can be quite right, but of course there are exceptions.

In general, Asians;

Are very concerned about social etiquette,
Respect authority,
Respect the needs of society,
Place "saving face" above many things,
Place family and family obligations above most things.

Again, these are just generalisations, like saying Irish people are friendly, or the French enjoy wine, or Americans are trying to take over the world.

Its true for most, but not neccessarily all.

elvis2002

My and my chinese girlfriend have been going out for 3 years now. The cultural difference is amazing but not impossible to live with or anything of that nature. She's opened my eyes to alot of things.

In China the man pays for the wedding and she finds it insulting that in ireland or 'laowai' countries that the woman is expected to pay in the wedding.

markb143

Laguna wrote:

Are we talking about Golden Retrievers here? Hello? These are people you know? Who says we in the west have it right with social etiquette and all those "Colonial" types "East of the urals" need to be Westernised?

Thanks for the sanctimonious bull**** Laguna, it really adds to the discussion....

markb143

markb143 wrote:

would like to get more friendly with some……..

but first I’d like to know how cultural differences could affect a (potential) westerner/asian relationship? Positive and negative…..!

"I think the OP should stop aiming to go out with an Asian girl" - WTF Laguna??

I think you need this: http://www.englishlearner.com/ - check out the reading section :rolleyes:

Thanks to the rest of you guys and girls for ur help!

Laguna

No. You really add to the discussion with your bull****, I suppose calling my post sanctimonius means you think we are talking about slabs of meat here

markb143

Gob****e :rolleyes:

Beruthiel

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cordelia

Take each person for who they are as individuals rather than as a collective culture.

There are messed up people in every culture, country, society. There are also wonderful people.

What is really comes down to is how you and the other person get along. How your personalities/outlook compliment each other. And whether both of you are open to the differences which may or may not exist.

In the end it can be challenging or wonderfully refreshing, depending on the quality of the relationship and the people in it.

weemcd

dublindude wrote:

And they have really weird logic on things. For example, Asian women will put up with their boyfriends/husbands beating them (it's "normal") but will not put up with laziness (I'm generalising, but laziness is kind of a male Irish trait.)

Could the man then not just get up, bate the sh!te out of his wife, then go back to watching the telly or wha?

sounds crazy to me

AARRRGH

weemcd wrote:

Could the man then not just get up, bate the sh!te out of his wife, then go back to watching the telly or wha?

sounds crazy to me

Yes, completely.

It's totally insane, but it's totally accepted and very common.

What annoyed me more was the Asians I knew thought it was ... I don't want to say acceptable ... but they acted like it was nearly acceptable. Like it's OK, he was just drunk, or I was being difficult, etc etc.

LegacyUser

when we talk about asians are we not talking about girls from india, pakistan, etc also??

Bottle_of_Smoke

non-reg wrote:

when we talk about asians are we not talking about girls from india, pakistan, etc also??

That was cleared up ages ago! read the whole thread. I only know one girl born in china and i think she's a bit more western than most. And she's still a nut about status and saving face etc...

Their logic and that sort thing I like at times. It's also hilarious how her and (she claims) all her friends\most Chinese girls are just completely baffled about what Irish guys see in Irish girls. But they're very jealous of Caucasian breasts

Pigman II

The thing I don't get is that white guys seem to like asian women more than white women like asian guys and white women seem to like black guys more than white guys like black women.

So who are all these leftover asian men and black women hooking up with?

Unpossible

Well I dated a vietnamese girl for a couple of months and I have a chinese girlfriend now (from NanJing).

I say go for it, there are cultural differences, but they just make things more interesting. i havent come accross the stuff dublindude mentioned (except for the vietnamese being submissive), but then i wasnt with a korean, and both girls come from large (6million+) cities so maybe that explains the difference. I find asians attractive so I would be more interested in one of them than a north european.

But they're very jealous of Caucasian breasts

this seems true

The thing I don't get is that white guys seem to like asian women more than white women like asian guys and white women seem to like black guys more than white guys like black women.

ummm, all Im going to say is that there are size differences (especially with asians being "smaller")****


****edit: oops, Im talking about the women being smaller than western ones (in my expirences). I cant comment on the men, but Ive heard things

FX Meister

elvis2002 wrote:

In China the man pays for the wedding and she finds it insulting that in ireland or 'laowai' countries that the woman is expected to pay in the wedding.

I thought this was all changing now and most people paid for their own weddings but sometimes with help from both parents.

Victor

Unpossible wrote:

ummm, all Im going to say is that there are size differences (especially with asians being "smaller")**** ****edit: oops, Im talking about the women being smaller than western ones (in my expirences). I cant comment on the men, but Ive heard things

Body parts are generally in proportion to body size, other than that we are all individuals.

FX Meister

I wouldn't agree with you there Vic, it's well known that Chinese have smaller penisses and black men have larger one. Comparing similar sized blokes and all.

Victor

Scientific evidence would tend to disagree.

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Anyway, lets not go down that road.

FX Meister

Yeah, show me this scientific evidence you speak of?

magick

And they have really weird logic on things. For example, Asian women will put up with their boyfriends/husbands beating them (it's "normal") but will not put up with laziness (I'm generalising, but laziness is kind of a male Irish trait.)

maybe generalising but thats the biggest load of crap ive heard