Beyond Good and Evil....

johnny_ultimate

Can i get an amen?

tman

Amen brother.
Sing it from the mountaintops!

only £10 over at play.com for the gamecube too

TerrorFirmer

Speaking of which, its a tenner new somewhere.....xtra vision maybe? I remember seeing it recently for 9.99 on the Xbox new....possibly the Xtra Vision sale, which has some very good prices in the larger stores.

Scratch Acid

Great game.

johnny_ultimate

Ten euro from xtra vision on the PS2. Get it.

Mr E

Hallelujia!!

I want a sequel!

rainbow kirby

It's fantastic
Oh... brand new it's 2.98 on Xbox in GAME until the sale is over.

grimloch

I got it a while back in a bumper pack thing for the equivalent of 3 or 4 euro. Haven't taken it out and played it yet. Any good? Worth a play?

RobertFoster

grimloch wrote:

I got it a while back in a bumper pack thing for the equivalent of 3 or 4 euro. Haven't taken it out and played it yet. Any good? Worth a play?

Worth completing - great game.

When's the sale over kirby?

ShiverinEskimo

An absolute Gem of a game..can't emphasise enough. Really enjoyable.

the corpo

just ordered the cube version from play

you lot are a bad influence

rainbow kirby

RobertFoster wrote:

When's the sale over kirby?

In about 2 weeks.

TCamen

Got it brand new day of release for €30 which was a great price for a kick-ass brand new game.

Unfortunately I believe that it sold horribly and plans for a series of BG&E were subsequently scrapped. But yay, we have Medal of Honour 15 and such to play instead :rolleyes:

i_am_dogboy

TCamen wrote:

Got it brand new day of release for €30 which was a great price for a kick-ass brand new game.

Unfortunately I believe that it sold horribly and plans for a series of BG&E were subsequently scrapped.

I too got it while the price was high, but we can't completely blame the gaming public for this one not being successful, after all Ubisoft made the ridiculous mistake of putting this and 2 other fantastic titles out at the same time as games that were advertised......you know, how can you compete with that?

Syth

Yeah BG&E is a great game. Got it for €25 when I was supposed to be looking for a birthday present for a female friend of mine. Had to stop off in Game first.

Pity there were no more sequals, but sometimes it's good not to milk something.

monkeyfudge

Yeah... a sequel would have been great especially after that creepy bit right at the end after the credits roll.

Setun

Amen Brother! Great game. Got stuck though so never completed it, then my PS2 blew up, so we'll leave it there. Might get a lend for the GC though...

It's the originality that counts, not the number of explosions on the front cover.

Ri_Nollaig

the corpo wrote:

just ordered the cube version from play

you lot are a bad influence

wats the delivery time like for play.com never bought off them before

j0e

rainbow kirby wrote:

It's fantastic
Oh... brand new it's 2.98 on Xbox in GAME until the sale is over.

any1 willing to link me to this game?

tman

Ri_Nollaig wrote:

wats the delivery time like for play.com never bought off them before

anything i've ordered over the weekend has nearly always arrived before friday. so 4-5 working days i suppose...

mise

Love this game. A sequel on the next gens would be great

quarryman

rainbow kirby wrote:

It's fantastic
Oh... brand new it's 2.98 on Xbox in GAME until the sale is over.

would it be in stock in all the game stores kirby? Liffey Valley?

Earthhorse

I've heard a lot of good things about this game and am tempted to get it.

One thing though, does it play like Zelda? I often hear this comparison and it puts me off as I don't like the Zelda games.

rainbow kirby

quarryman wrote:

would it be in stock in all the game stores kirby? Liffey Valley?

Not sure. Worth a shot though. Think there was one copy in Tallaght on Monday.

monkeyfudge

Earthhorse wrote:

I've heard a lot of good things about this game and am tempted to get it.

One thing though, does it play like Zelda? I often hear this comparison and it puts me off as I don't like the Zelda games.

Hmmm... what exactly is it about the Zelda games that puts you off?

Is it the fantasy setting? Beyond Good and Evil has a fairly good science fiction setting.

They both have similiar combat controls though. Where you lock on to a particular enemy and you can circle around them and strike when you want. Although there is a good bit more stealth required in BG&E and it's well implemented too. You have to sneak around and take photos of specific targets.

They both have a very open ended game world with a number of 'dugeons' that you have to travel to and play through. There are absolutely loads of side quests to do though. There are even boat races to take part in.

The photography element is great. You get paid for taking photos of the various wild life around the planet.

I don't think Zelda and BG&E are hugely similiar though... but I'm a fan of both.

Earthhorse

I've actually only played the NES and SNES Zeldas so the combat system is not a concern.

The fantasy setting? Well I don't like the fact that it's cutesy but I wouldn't let that put me off. I just find Zelda unsatisfying.

You walk around with your sword *swish* walk a little further *swish* *swish*. The puzzles are also often obscure with a lot of exploring and experimenting just for the game's sake. At least, that's what I found.

Is BG&E focused? That is, do you basically know what you should be doing most of the time are you just wandering aimlessly in the hopes you'll find the place you're looking for?

monkeyfudge

Earthhorse wrote:

I've actually only played the NES and SNES Zeldas so the combat system is not a concern.

The fantasy setting? Well I don't like the fact that it's cutesy but I wouldn't let that put me off. I just find Zelda unsatisfying.

You walk around with your sword *swish* walk a little further *swish* *swish*. The puzzles are also often obscure with a lot of exploring and experimenting just for the game's sake. At least, that's what I found.

Is BG&E focused? That is, do you basically know what you should be doing most of the time are you just wandering aimlessly in the hopes you'll find the place you're looking for?

Oh.. I'd say it's alot more focused alright. Although if you only concentrate on the main tasks you will be finished with the game fairly quickly as there are really only 3 major dungeons in the whole game.

You will be forced into doing some of the side quests though as collecting pearls is essential to upgrading your hover craft, and you need the upgrades to get to previously inaccessible areas.

The last level has a very Zeldaesque mirror type puzzle though, but it doesn't take too long to figure out.

tman

Earthhorse wrote:

I've actually only played the NES and SNES Zeldas so the combat system is not a concern.

well the main zelda comparisons between BG&E and zelda that i'd make would be in the gameplay styles.
when people compare it zelda, they're talking about the 2 n64 games and the wind waker, not the old top down incarnations.
for the sake of spending somewhere between €3 and €15, you're missing out on one of the greatest games from this generation of consoles.
just make sure you get a console version of the game - the controls don't lend themselves well to the pc (i had to rebuy the game for the cube)

RobertFoster

Yeah, it's focused. It's nothing like the NES/SNES versions of Zelda IMO.

Earthhorse

Should be picking up my GameCube this week (figured I'd get it while it's cheap). Ikaruga and Monkey Ball are waiting to be played but this is going straight to the top of the list for my next order.

Thanks for the info guys.

tman

Earthhorse wrote:

Should be picking up my GameCube this week (figured I'd get it while it's cheap). Ikaruga and Monkey Ball are waiting to be played but this is going straight to the top of the list for my next order.

Thanks for the info guys.

geddin!
heh. gotta love play and their 2 for 20 deals... that'd push the price up by a penny

johnny_ultimate

Just finished the game! The ending : Holy crap! A space battle and a cool backwards controlling final boss (those whove played it know what im on about).

I officially declare it maybe the second best game ive played this generation (Resi 4 being a probable winner).

monkeyfudge

johnny_ultimate wrote:

Just finished the game! The ending : Holy crap! A space battle and a cool backwards controlling final boss (those whove played it know what im on about).

I officially declare it maybe the second best game ive played this generation (Resi 4 being a probable winner).

The space battle is great alright... amazing music too.

johnny_ultimate

monkeyfudge wrote:

The space battle is great alright... amazing music too.

Yeah the music is really cool. So dramatic. What other games has the composer done, anyone know?

i_am_dogboy

I'm pretty sure it's his first game soundtrack to make, his name is Christophe Heral, I'm sure a trip to google will find out whether or not he's made more than that though.

ShiverinEskimo

Play.com - the number one pit for my money. I love play.com takes abotu 5 days (as said) for delivery. I've ordered nigh on 2k worth of stuff comprising mostly of dvds and games (the odd cd, and a book for college too) and they have failed to deliver only once, and upon calling them after 7 days they asked me to wait 14 and call if still no sign. I called them after 14 and they sent one out immediately via registered post.

Great company and tend to very keenly priced too. Here's a tip - always pay the sterling price on your credit card..it works out much cheaper as play add some euros to cover themselves..

tman

ShiverinEskimo wrote:

and they have failed to deliver only once, and upon calling them after 7 days they asked me to wait 14 and call if still no sign. I called them after 14 and they sent one out immediately via registered post.

yup. one failed delivery out of almost 50 here.
unfortunately the game went out of stock, so i had to settle for a refund. this was all sorted out within a matter of hours of me reporting it missing iirc
couldn't recommend them highly enough

Praetorian

Great game alright. Retr0gamer is so sad, that he won't play it because he only has a copy of it for pc. "Pc is crap".

K.O.Kiki

Horrible scenario today.
Went to buy a PS2, found one 2nd hand, €90, or €100 w/a 2nd-hand game.

Found Beyond Good and Evil. Joy! :cool:
Go to ATM machine. Joy-JOY!!
Go back, ring up PS2. HAPPY-HAPPY JOY-JOY

Attendant looks at disc. OH THE HORROR--A HUGE CHIP IN THE DISC--UNPLAYABLE!!! :eek:

Hold back tears, pick up Broken Sword: The Sleeping Dragon instead ...

d22ontour

While this game was amazing at the start of the game i found it to be a tad disappointing after finishing it in a matter of hours.I got maybe 6 hours out of it and to be frank that is not enough for a game that could have been pure quality.Hopefully the sequel can stretch the game out but not in a sailing across the seas ala windwaker kind of way.

monkeyfudge

d22ontour wrote:

While this game was amazing at the start of the game i found it to be a tad disappointing after finishing it in a matter of hours.I got maybe 6 hours out of it and to be frank that is not enough for a game that could have been pure quality.Hopefully the sequel can stretch the game out but not in a sailing across the seas ala windwaker kind of way.

Yeah.. it is a bit short... only 3 proper levels really...

But it's replay value is very good too.. I played through it a second time and made sure I explored all over the place and did all the mini levels and took as many photos of animals as possible...

johnny_ultimate

Short it may be, but it makes up for it in quality. It took me around eleven hours, and that was because i went for as many pearls and animals as possible. And i STILL didn't get then all! Nuts.

Syth

Better short and good than long and mediocre

rainbow kirby

True
Astro Boy and Metroid Zero Mission being perfect examples of that.

monkeyfudge

There was one animal I could never get a photo of...

It was in behind some crates and as soon as you walked into the room it went and hide on you... oh.... it drove me nuts...

Lord Oz

It wouldn't run on my computer and I gave up.

ShiverinEskimo

monkeyfudge wrote:

There was one animal I could never get a photo of...

It was in behind some crates and as soon as you walked into the room it went and hide on you... oh.... it drove me nuts...

i think you had to sneak in for that one. or something - i remember it took me a god awful long time but i got it in the end. Was worth a fortune..

Syth

I'll have to play it again and get all the pearls and animals. It really was a beautiful game. You always like things you don't have....

K.O.Kiki

For all the guys that played this game (or want to!), here's a little love

Blub2k4

I got this in Game on Dawson St at the weekend for a tenner, maybe Evad_lhorG could confirm if there are any more copies in there?