NTL to upgrade customers to 10mb

ntlbell

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/news/article.html?in_article_id=402821&in_page_id=2

pugleon

Wonder is that only in the UK for the time being? Hmmm. Great move by them regardless, the way is should be really. Fast downloads but payin for utilisation only. Say the guys with NTL will be waiting/drueling for that to be implemented

Drapper

pugleon wrote:

Wonder is that only in the UK for the time being? Hmmm. Great move by them regardless, the way is should be really. Fast downloads but payin for utilisation only. Say the guys with NTL will be waiting/drueling for that to be implemented

I hope they do ! but who knows :-)

paulm17781

pugleon wrote:

Wonder is that only in the UK for the time being?

NTL Ireland have NOTHING to do with NTL UK anymore.

Drapper

paulm17781 wrote:

NTL Ireland have NOTHING to do with NTL UK anymore.

True, but they said that the last time, and thier upgrade went ahead !

paulm17781

Drapper wrote:

True, but they said that the last time, and thier upgrade went ahead !

a) They were still owned by NTL then.
b) They upgraded in response to Eircom.

Stark

There will be no price rise, but customers will pay different rates depending on how much is downloaded, says Bill Goodland, NTL's internet director.

I don't like this part. The trend should be away from metered access, not towards it.

fightin snr

10mB for Ireland

CuLT

fightin snr wrote:

10mhz for Ireland

Who stoles my megahertz >_<

Maybe we'll have more than 16KB of RAM soon.

OfflerCrocGod

I'd leave NTL if they implemented this - I DO NOT WANT METERED ACCESS. 2mbps is plenty fast enough to get 100GB worth of files in a month but I'd say 100GB would cost more then the 3Mb offering from NTL. I don't like it at all - it's not proper BB.

ntlbell

OfflerCrocGod wrote:

I'd leave NTL if they implemented this - I DO NOT WANT METERED ACCESS. 2mbps is plenty fast enough to get 100GB worth of files in a month but I'd say 100GB would cost more then the 3Mb offering from NTL. I don't like it at all - it's not proper BB.

I'm sure people will be allocated a fairly big bandwith allowance and only over the allowance would be charged.

for a 10mb for 50e I wouldn't mind this, it keeps all the warez monkeys at bay.

zuma

Its interesting that NTL are implimenting this....but I dont think Chello Ireland Cable Broadband(UPC/UGC Internet Operations!) will be following NTL anytime soon.


Yes people.....this has ABSOLUTELY NO effect in Ireland...!!!

ntlbell

zuma wrote:

Its interesting that NTL are implimenting this....but I dont think Chello Ireland Cable Broadband(UPC/UGC Internet Operations!) will be following NTL anytime soon.


Yes people.....this has ABSOLUTELY NO effect in Ireland...!!!

You know this after your conversation with VP of operations with NTL?

there's a very high posibility this will follow in ireland like previous upgrades regardless of the ownership of the network.

time will tell but don't be making silly assumptions with no proof

rsynnott

OfflerCrocGod wrote:

I'd leave NTL if they implemented this - I DO NOT WANT METERED ACCESS. 2mbps is plenty fast enough to get 100GB worth of files in a month but I'd say 100GB would cost more then the 3Mb offering from NTL. I don't like it at all - it's not proper BB.

No-one's going to offer true unlimited bandwidth. Bandwidth costs money.

jesus_thats_gre

The crowd taking over NTL Ireland have publicly commited to upgrade the network quickly and role out comparable speed products to those listed in the link..

You are a little dramatic Zuma..

Drapper

jesus_thats_gre wrote:

The crowd taking over NTL Ireland have publicly commited to upgrade the network quickly and role out comparable speed products to those listed in the link..

You are a little dramatic Zuma..

I'd be interest to know where you got this information mate? my undertanding of improving the network was replacing the shoddy coax cables all over the country!

But as seen, after the company was taken over, they have tended to copy the UK speeds.

Also, as many have pointed out they call themselves the providers of the fastest Home BB pacakages in the country, I believe in Dungarvan you can get 12mb to the home on coax. I hope they try to regain thier BB crown :-)

ntlbell

Drapper wrote:

Also, as many have pointed out they call themselves the providers of the fastest Home BB pacakages in the country, I believe in Dungarvan you can get 12mb to the home on coax. I hope they try to regain thier BB crown :-)

keyword there is provider, i think the one guy who lives in dungarvan who they could provide to thinks the net is what he catches his dinner in is.

Drapper

ntlbell wrote:

keyword there is provider, i think the one guy who lives in dungarvan who they could provide to thinks the net is what he catches his dinner in is.

lol, or the interweb as I've herd it called!

Stephen

ntlbell wrote:

keyword there is provider, i think the one guy who lives in dungarvan who they could provide to thinks the net is what he catches his dinner in is.

Drapper

another article:- http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/08/08/ntl_broadband/

i wonder if houses are cheap in Chorleywod!

ntlbell

Stephen wrote:

Sadly people over the age of 12 use "teh funny"

Sensitive culchie?

Stephen

Ooh, hit a nerve did I?

ntlbell

Stephen wrote:

Ooh, hit a nerve did I?

Yes that's the question,

are you a sensitive culchie? was a nerve hit by the joke......

see?

paulm17781

While you two bickering is highly relevant to NTL upgrading their broadband speeds. Could you both please stop or take it to PM where I don't have to read it.

causal

Stark wrote:

There will be no price rise, but customers will pay different rates depending on how much is downloaded, says Bill Goodland, NTL's internet director.

I don't like this part. The trend should be away from metered access, not towards it.

But if, as the article below says, they're upgrading everyone's speeds for free then imho it's fair enough - as long as the amounts are 'reasonable'*.

It suits me to get a whopping download speed, but pay less because I don't use huge bandwidth. After all ntl have to pay for the bandwidth - so it's no surprise that is passed onto the user.
tbh another way of looking at it is : Why should all the average users subsidise bandwidth whores?

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/08/08/ntl_broadband/ :

Details of other packages on offer including prices have yet to be published. But it seems that the cable company is to give all its punters 10 meg access and then charge them according to usage rather than speed.

Suits me Sir.
Significantly, I hope the upstream increases to 1Mb to match.

causal

*what is 'reasonable' can be debated long and hard. But imho it's important whether or not the likes of digital tv, and VoD services are to be included in the bandwidth - presumably not.

Lump

NTL won't upgrade, you will be plagued by slow internet access all teh time.


John

I made TEH SUBTLE funneh

Drapper

Lump wrote:

NTL won't upgrade, you will be plagued by slow internet access all teh time.


John

I made TEH SUBTLE funneh

source?

jesus_thats_gre

Drapper wrote:

I'd be interest to know where you got this information mate? my undertanding of improving the network was replacing the shoddy coax cables all over the country!

But as seen, after the company was taken over, they have tended to copy the UK speeds.

Also, as many have pointed out they call themselves the providers of the fastest Home BB pacakages in the country, I believe in Dungarvan you can get 12mb to the home on coax. I hope they try to regain thier BB crown :-)

I have read it in a few occassions.. Currently NTL are testing gen 2 of whatever tech they use for BB over their cable network for widespread roll out.. The new crowd suggested that they would skip straight to version 3 where possible.. I cannot find anything concrete to be honest.

I found this in the Ireland Offline forum:

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=3163438&postcount=3

He obviously read something similar to what I did..

jesus_thats_gre

Drapper wrote:

source?

He is trying to be an asshole.. Ignore him..

jesus_thats_gre

Actually:

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=277643

Marcopolo85

ntlbell wrote:

keyword there is provider, i think the one guy who lives in dungarvan who they could provide to thinks the net is what he catches his dinner in is.

You're talking b*****ks there son! Check their site: www.cablesurf.com
Probably one of the best cable systems in Europe.

Marcopolo85

Lump wrote:

NTL won't upgrade, you will be plagued by slow internet access all teh time.


John

I made TEH SUBTLE funneh

Slow as in 1, 2, or 3 Megs?

Fionn_McCool

Drapper wrote:

Also, as many have pointed out they call themselves the providers of the fastest Home BB pacakages in the country, I believe in Dungarvan you can get 12mb to the home on coax. I hope they try to regain thier BB crown :-)

ntlbell wrote:

keyword there is provider, i think the one guy who lives in dungarvan who they could provide to thinks the net is what he catches his dinner in is.

Marcopolo85 wrote:

You're talking b*****ks there son! Check their site: www.cablesurf.com
Probably one of the best cable systems in Europe.

So, is that the kind of speed NTL want to achieve.

BTW ntlbell, there is far more than 1 user of cablesurf in dungarvan, more like 2,000 - 3,000

ntlbell wrote:

keyword there is provider

get back to me when NTL is as good a provider

Drapper

jesus_thats_gre wrote:

He is trying to be an asshole.. Ignore him..

a total pro !

Drapper

Fionn_McCool wrote:

So, is that the kind of speed NTL want to achieve.

BTW ntlbell, there is far more than 1 user of cablesurf in dungarvan, more like 2,000 - 3,000


get back to me when NTL is as good a provider

fruppin barstand!!

kin9pin

Fionn_McCool wrote:

get back to me when NTL is as good a provider

As far as I'm concerned NTL are a great provider. I'm on the 3meg package, never had downtime, pings always good, download/upload speeds always spot on.
I'm probably in a minority and I know D15 have problems, but they're worth every penny as far as I'm concerned.

Fionn_McCool

i didn't mean that ntl are a bad provider by saying that, as i know myself that they provide a good service.

It was just my response to ntlbell, who was getting all high and mighty

kin9pin

ah I see, apologies for interrupting you both

Marcopolo85

kin9pin wrote:

As far as I'm concerned NTL are a great provider. I'm on the 3meg package, never had downtime, pings always good, download/upload speeds always spot on.
I'm probably in a minority and I know D15 have problems, but they're worth every penny as far as I'm concerned.

Ditto.

Cablesurf are the fastest in the country, but, overall, considering their considerable presence in three major cities, NTL are ahead of the rest on both speed and price, especially Eircom. :eek:

vibe666

ah sure, anyone can do that.



but then I'm in work, and it's a big place, with a big fat leased line.

would be nice at home though, where my BT client is.

tbh, 2mb would be fine with a decent upload of 512kbps to 1mb.

i'm still waiting for the LLU thing to happen so i can get something better on one of the business packages BT are 'almost' touting. been waiting since may though, and no sign yet.

and now we might be bnuying a house, so that might well be off the cards altogether depending on where we move.

anyone know where NTL BB is actually available so i can steer the gf to a house in one of those areas?

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CuLT

1MB down is fine with an upload of 1Mb too

The next step I'd be willing to part with more cash for would be 10Mb synchronous, and then 100Mb synchronous. As it stands, I don't mind waiting for "large" files to download or upload, bit of patience is all that's required

If I had 10MB or 100MB I'd just be severely tempted to download DVD images and/or start up a webhosting company.

causal

vibe666 wrote:

and now we might be bnuying a house, so that might well be off the cards altogether depending on where we move.

anyone know where NTL BB is actually available so i can steer the gf to a house in one of those areas?

Waterford - it's about 6Mbps short of Dungarvan

causal

vibe666

i could do with being just a tad closer to dublin. i still need to eb able to get decent IT contracts, and methinks my options might be a bit limited out there.
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ntlbell

Fionn_McCool wrote:

i didn't mean that ntl are a bad provider by saying that, as i know myself that they provide a good service.

It was just my response to ntlbell, who was getting all high and mighty

so you make up lies about companies when people are "all high and mighty"

your another dungarvan legend then i take it....

sigh

paulm17781

ntlbell wrote:

so you make up lies about companies when people are "all high and mighty"

He said when NTL is as good a company. That as can be easily overlooked and is a keyword in that sentance.

Fionn_McCool

ntlbell wrote:

so you make up lies about companies when people are "all high and mighty"

your another dungarvan legend then i take it....

sigh

grow up!!!!!




time to be the bigger man and not reply the way i want to, to his comments.