Getting cute with KK

Hectorjelly

Real Money Ring Game
Table Name Hand ID Game Stakes
Rita, Sue and Bob Too 3451861-27713 Holdem No Limit $0.50/$1
[Jul 31 07:01:03] : Hand Start.
[Jul 31 07:01:03] : Seat 1 : pdq333 has $118.75
[Jul 31 07:01:03] : Seat 2 : benzini has $71.25
[Jul 31 07:01:03] : Seat 3 : bigwok has $115.75
[Jul 31 07:01:03] : Seat 4 : ragg has $272.33
[Jul 31 07:01:03] : Seat 5 : hectorjelly has $186.01
[Jul 31 07:01:03] : Seat 6 : purplefish has $91.50
[Jul 31 07:01:03] : hectorjelly is the dealer.
[Jul 31 07:01:03] : purplefish posted small blind.
[Jul 31 07:01:04] : pdq333 posted big blind.
[Jul 31 07:01:04] : Game [27713] started with 6 players.
[Jul 31 07:01:04] : Dealing Hole Cards.
[Jul 31 07:01:04] : Seat 5 : hectorjelly has Kh Kc
[Jul 31 07:01:37] : benzini called $1
[Jul 31 07:01:37] : bigwok folded.
[Jul 31 07:01:43] : ragg called $1
[Jul 31 07:01:45] : hectorjelly called $1 and raised $4
[Jul 31 07:01:47] : purplefish folded.
[Jul 31 07:01:51] : pdq333 called $4
[Jul 31 07:01:53] : benzini folded.
[Jul 31 07:01:58] : ragg called $4
[Jul 31 07:01:58] : Dealing flop.
[Jul 31 07:01:58] : Board cards [Jc Qd 8c]
[Jul 31 07:01:59] : pdq333 checked.
[Jul 31 07:02:03] : hectorjelly : lol
[Jul 31 07:01:43] : ragg bet $16
[Jul 31 07:01:43] : hectorjelly : do you just play 1 table at a time?
[Jul 31 07:01:54] : purplefish : yes
[Jul 31 07:01:57] : hectorjelly folded.
[Jul 31 07:01:57] : pdq333 folded.
[Jul 31 07:01:58] : ragg wins $15.75 as the last player standing
[Jul 31 07:02:01] : Hand is over.

Comments?

Tackle

I have ragg down as aggressive and 'went all in on the turn with a flush draw' in my notes so he could have top pair and/or a flush draw here. Calling him down or going all here I'd say there's a more than 50% chance you'll win but I like to be at least 75% sure before I commit that sort of cash so I'd fold here too.

NickyOD

The only time I'd consider folding here is if ragg at very little money left. Unless you have a read that says he must have a set I'd call quickly and see the turn here for sure.

Hectorjelly

I dont think he has a set. He is a very loose player but is generally passive. If he has a set he would call me me then min raise the turn. He is of a paticular breed of loose player that is very straight forward.

However, this flop is just about the worst flop I could imagine. He loves all the cards that fit this flop; 9T, JQ, Q8. Or as pointed out he could have a pair and a flush draw, in which case are hands are roughly similar in equity. He has called my preflop raises every time and not once has he led out at a pot. He flat called with a flush draw and with a set. Im pretty sure that this is two pair/straight trying to induce a reraise. I cant really flat call on this board because there are so many cards that I fear on the turn.

I know theres a chance that I folded the best hand but my instincts told me I was behind, and that any money I put into the pot would be wasted.

Hectorjelly

NickyOD wrote:

The only time I'd consider folding here is if ragg at very little money left.

I dont understand this at all. The deeper the stacks the less strong my hand is. If that was his last $16 I would auto call it.