Martial art

tonyrogdor · 28-07-2005 4:57pm #1

I would like to learn the strongest martial art? What is it.

Tony

dlofnep · 28-07-2005 4:59pm

You'll have to be more specific. What do you by strongest? If you mean the most functional and effective, I'd say the culmination of boxing, wrestling, muay thai and brazilian jiu-jitsu - otherwise known as mixed martial arts.

tonyrogdor · 28-07-2005 5:04pm

thank you for talking back to me dlfneop

I am looking for the martial art that is strong. Like that can deal with multiple attackers. If i did karate and kung fu would that be strong like these mixed martial arts?

tony

myemptyhands · 28-07-2005 5:09pm

i'd recommend that you try a few out for yourself. colleges would be the best place to find a good selection of clubs in one location. everyone here will probably just recommend his or her own discipline. if you really want guidance from the boards, then as you try them out you could ask for the merits and flaws of each individual art from its practitioners.

dlofnep · 28-07-2005 5:10pm

No art will truly help you against multiple attackers. Running fast helps.. I don't study nor have I ever studied karate or kung fu to give my opinion on them.

tonyrogdor · 28-07-2005 5:12pm

John also thank you to you for talking at me.

I would ask what do you train with your 5 minutes of time as they speak.

I am sorry to you but my english is bad good.

tonyrogdor · 28-07-2005 5:15pm

emptyhand,

thank you for you good words of help.

what is the strongest martial art in your world?

tony

dlofnep · 28-07-2005 5:20pm

tonyrogdor wrote:

I would ask what do you train with your 5 minutes of time as they speak.

I train alot longer than 5 minutes

I cover no-gi brazilian jiu-jitsu mostly. We try to integrate striking into our jiu-jitsu also and we also covering some clinch work.

tonyrogdor · 28-07-2005 5:21pm

what is a a nogi? is it like woodmade fighting stick?

Irish Samuari · 28-07-2005 5:21pm

it looks like we hav the same interests in finding a strong martial art tony but it might help people with understanding what you need if you use english clearer. lol

tonyrogdor · 28-07-2005 5:25pm

Thank you to you for for inviting me to answer Mr Irish

I would like a strong martial art. I must be able to fight 3 men. If there is nogi woodmade stick like the John has then however this can help me.

dlofnep · 28-07-2005 5:27pm

tonyrogdor wrote:

what is a a nogi? is it like woodmade fighting stick?

A gi is a uniform used for training in jiu-jitsu, it's a japanese word for clothing. No-gi means no uniform.

dlofnep · 28-07-2005 5:28pm

I'm thinking we have some trolls on our hands.

tonyrogdor · 28-07-2005 5:31pm

John

what do you do in this jiu jitsu. Is this like the karate martial art?

tony

Clive · 28-07-2005 5:35pm

Bushido Rings is the strongest martial art of Ireland.

tonyrogdor · 28-07-2005 5:40pm

Clive Hello

what is bushido rings martial art?

is this like the samurai sword battles?

thank you

tony

paddyc · 28-07-2005 5:41pm

... i suppose most people need the poster in front of them t undersatnd the humour..

paddy

columok · 28-07-2005 5:43pm

Bushido Rings is the strongest martial art of Ireland.

You've never seen that!

memphis · 28-07-2005 8:28pm

dlofnep wrote:

I'm thinking we have some trolls on our hands.

I second that! I was thinking the same. In fact its likely that they are the same person!!! Multiple posts from Trolls is not uncommon. Will see if I can check the IP adresses!!

Kevin_rc_ie · 28-07-2005 9:49pm

i mixture of tai chi and origami. with a bit of yoga. maybe some sumo too. that is strong. and bonzai.

tonyrogdor · 28-07-2005 10:30pm

What is good about tai chi? I hear that a good tai chi master is dangerous.

Kevin_rc_ie · 28-07-2005 10:31pm

very dangerous. like an osyster with a serrated edge.

grosser · 28-07-2005 11:24pm

tonyrogdor wrote:

I would like to learn the strongest martial art? What is it.

Tony

taekwon-do,karate,kung fu,kyokoshinkai karate mite be what your looking for!
but the strongest martial art is dependant on the student as to how he /she is proficient at it!

Kevin_rc_ie · 28-07-2005 11:25pm

kyokoshinkai karate -this is my favourite form of karate.

tonyrogdor · 28-07-2005 11:25pm

this kyokoshinkai karate is strong.

I hear that karate master kill a bull with this karate. His name is Oyama i think.s

grosser · 28-07-2005 11:26pm

Kevin_rc_ie wrote:

kyokoshinkai karate -this is my favourite form of karate.

its really korean tho!

Kevin_rc_ie · 28-07-2005 11:27pm

is it? i don't beleive you.

grosser · 28-07-2005 11:30pm

Kevin_rc_ie wrote:

is it? i don't beleive you.

the founder was a korean man named choi baedal,he went to japan to be a pilot!was a student of tae kyon!
went into mountains in japan for a few years toughened his body and honed his techniques,came down and beat every body!

tonyrogdor · 28-07-2005 11:31pm

I think a japanese name Mas Oyama was the beginner of Kyokushin Karate "Karate with Knockdown" I thinks.

dlofnep · 29-07-2005 9:39am

Tony - keep your trolling for the cuckoo's nest.

columok · 29-07-2005 9:56am

John,

I think tony actually speaks the truth. Mas Oyama used to fight bulls. I think he fought 50 of them.

Colum

dlofnep · 29-07-2005 10:42am

Colum, has asked me in a message who zangief was. He's taking the piss..

columok · 29-07-2005 10:49am

To the non- Street Fighter 2 literate...

Zangief is a bear like Russian wrestler from a popular 2-D fighting game from the early 90s.

dlofnep · 29-07-2005 11:05am

Yes, and his spinning pile driver took off the most energy out of all character's moves.

columok · 29-07-2005 11:08am

Though it is famously hard to do. Also he is a ripoff of Mike Hagar from Final Fight (or maybe its the other way around...

)

dlofnep · 29-07-2005 11:11am

Yes, it involved a 360 circle of your joypad and punch.

Kevin_rc_ie · 29-07-2005 11:19am

I never, ever, got that move to work.

dlofnep · 29-07-2005 11:21am

I did.

columok · 29-07-2005 11:26am

and thats why you're better than us eh john?

bastard.

dlofnep · 29-07-2005 11:31am

Precisely.

grosser · 29-07-2005 1:31pm

tonyrogdor wrote:

I think a japanese name Mas Oyama was the beginner of Kyokushin Karate "Karate with Knockdown" I thinks.

my apologies i got the mans name wrong it wasnt choi baedal,it was yong i choi!he was a korean who took the name mas oyama!he fought 52 bulls,three which he killed instantly,the others had their horns removed by knifehand blows!

Kevin_rc_ie · 29-07-2005 1:45pm

why did he perform these wild acts of cruelty?

grosser · 29-07-2005 1:59pm

Kevin_rc_ie wrote:

why did he perform these wild acts of cruelty?

they were to be slaughtered anyway!but nowadays it would be frowned upon

Kevin_rc_ie · 29-07-2005 2:05pm

what a c*nt

grosser · 29-07-2005 2:28pm

Kevin_rc_ie wrote:

what a c*nt

why?

Dave Joyce · 29-07-2005 4:25pm

Whoaa, dlofnep, I have to disagree with your statement that "no art really will help"... when facing multiple opponents. Just to clarify, I don't think think it is easy to train or accomplish as anyone who has sparred for real even one on one knows how much you have you're hands full with just one opponent. Now obviously if you have the opportunity to run that is always the best option but if you don't what do you do.... bury your head in the sand, take a beating hoping they won't overdo it on you or hope someone will intervene.
We train in Atienza Kali which specialises in Mass Attack and train towards that type of encounter as well as others and after over twenty years training in a varity of different MA including MMA I find it offers excellant training for this type of encounter. It may not be everyones cup of tea but don't say there is no art that will really help.

Kevin_rc_ie · 29-07-2005 6:06pm

why?

the answer is in the question.

pma-ire · 29-07-2005 6:07pm

http://www.fightingmaster.com/masters/oyama/

little info on Oyama!

Ger Healy · 01-08-2005 3:25pm

Dave Joyce

We train in Atienza Kali which specialises in Mass Attack and train towards that type of encounter

Dave I saw this video on defence against mass attack

from http://www.russianmartialart.com/
Is this what you do?

Kevin_rc_ie · 01-08-2005 3:27pm

do these attacks only happen on the sabbath?

dlofnep · 01-08-2005 7:11pm

Dave Joyce wrote:

Whoaa, dlofnep, I have to disagree with your statement that "no art really will help"... when facing multiple opponents. Just to clarify, I don't think think it is easy to train or accomplish as anyone who has sparred for real even one on one knows how much you have you're hands full with just one opponent. Now obviously if you have the opportunity to run that is always the best option but if you don't what do you do.... bury your head in the sand, take a beating hoping they won't overdo it on you or hope someone will intervene.
We train in Atienza Kali which specialises in Mass Attack and train towards that type of encounter as well as others and after over twenty years training in a varity of different MA including MMA I find it offers excellant training for this type of encounter. It may not be everyones cup of tea but don't say there is no art that will really help.

I'm sorry Dave but if a couple of drunken lads come up to you and want you break your leg, there's not much you can do about it. Sure you can learn how to cover yourself to minimalise the damage but if they want to KO you, they will. If they want to hurt you, they will. Unless the art involves running or negotiating at it's highest degree, then in my opinion, it's worthless.

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