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Firming up the man brests

  • 25-07-2005 10:23am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,316 ✭✭✭✭


    Hi,
    Just wondering: is there a way to "firm-up" me man brests (for lack of a better word)? I'm losing weight as part of a diet, so I'd also like to firm-up the brests, as opposed to them jiggling if I run:rolleyes::o

    Also if there's a way to burn off the beer belly faster (doing dieting, and 40 minute cycle once or twice a week). They're proberly related, somehow, so firming up one may firm up the other.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    As a male, your torso is pretty much the last place you'll lose wait. It sucks, but hey. The usual chest press exercises for the chest, and sit-ups for the stomach will make your muscles stronger, and will tone them up to the point of making them look a more manly shape, but you'll still have that jiggly layer of flab covering your buffed muscles. Just keep working away at it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,349 ✭✭✭nobodythere


    If you're looking to burn fat, running is not a good exercise. Fat is burned with a low-intensity exercise done for more than about 25 mins. By low-intensity I mean something that just about gets you sweating. This can be something such as brisk walking. High-intensity exercise will burn mainly glucose. If you want to understand all of this I recommend you go on Limewire, go to Documents and search for the US navy seal fitness manual.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 607 ✭✭✭DAEDULUS


    grasshopa wrote:
    If you're looking to burn fat, running is not a good exercise. Fat is burned with a low-intensity exercise done for more than about 25 mins. By low-intensity I mean something that just about gets you sweating. This can be something such as brisk walking. High-intensity exercise will burn mainly glucose. If you want to understand all of this I recommend you go on Limewire, go to Documents and search for the US navy seal fitness manual.

    I'm not sure if this is true..You say you can back it up,but I'm still scepticle as other websites all seem to favour high-intensity exercises for fat loss. This is why HIIT(High Intensity Interval Training) is so popular among people trying to lose weight,because the change of speed in HIIT cardio keeps your body guessing with the change of speed and cant get used to the pace before you change again..Whereas low-intensity may start quite hard on the body,after a while your body (AFAIK) gets used to the pace and the exercise is no longer as strenuous.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,349 ✭✭✭nobodythere


    I'm not stating it as fact, I'm just telling him what I've learned. I have no evidence for either HIIT or long low intensity exercises. I use the latter and have had results, so maybe it is a question of which is the most efficient method, rather than which one works at all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 128 ✭✭super123


    Press ups and sit ups will solve your problem. Start off easy at 20 each at day and gradually work that up.

    If you continue that for at least 6 weeks to 8 weeks your will notice a major difference!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 291 ✭✭kstanl


    super123 wrote:
    Press ups and sit ups will solve your problem.

    No they won't. Cardio, a good diet and high medium rep resistance training will.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 603 ✭✭✭Prior Of Taize


    i reckon get on a bike in the gym for 30 minutes at a medium setting 3 times a week...stop drinking and stop eating crap


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,376 ✭✭✭joc_06


    grasshopa wrote:
    If you're looking to burn fat, running is not a good exercise.

    I'm not stating it as fact

    I should hope you're not cause you are totally 100% incorrect. Running is the absolute best way to lose fat.

    Its very simple. Burn more calories than you eat and you'll lose weight. Up your protein levels and it'll be only fat you lose.

    Im not the best to give advice this general but long jogs at a relative slow pace are supposed to be good. Personally i've seen great results from HIIT, beep tests, 150's, hill sprints and of course the big iron


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,349 ✭✭✭nobodythere


    I'm talking about RUNNING, as in pushing yourself hard. Your body will burn glucose instead of fat, it's evolution. If jogging just about builds up a sweat then stick to that, but when you're overweight usually brisk walking will do that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,376 ✭✭✭joc_06


    You've lost me here. Is there a difference between RUNNING and running? And whats evolution that takes 1000's of yrs got to do with losing fat?

    You are kind of right though. When you run you do burn glucose not fat. When glucose is used for energy, after awhile if you you don't eat enough then the body can break down fat or protein or glycogen in order to incorporate intermediates of breakdown into the TCA cycle, gluconeogenesis, etc, in order to make glucose which is converted to energy or make energy directly. It is all rather complex (or at least it was to me) but I think this is pretty much an overview of what happens.

    Science bit from my Chemistry days:
    C6H12O6 + 6O2 goes to 6 CO2 + 6H2O

    This is the basic biochemistry of respiration - So the extra mass goes out as CO2 in exhaled air.

    You actually "burn" glucose during metabolism to carbon dioxide plus water which you exhale, so most of that mass goes out your lungs. In fact measuring CO2 is how physiology types determine how many calories are burned during exercise. If you don't replace the glucose you burned, you end up with a total mass loss, in the form of the CO2 exhaled. Your body now has a deficit of glucose and so it goes to the fat stores to get it.
    Simple (i wish)

    Anyone got any comments?


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  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 9,588 Mod ✭✭✭✭BossArky


    Use a threadmill. Start off running at a comfy level for a few minutes to get the blood circulating. Now up the speed so that you are exerting yourself a bit more and starting to feel uncomfy after a minute or two. Bring the speed back down to the comfy level. After 2 mins rest bring it back up again... and so on.

    If I run I start off at 10kmph for 2 mins, up to 12 for two mins, down to 10 for 2, up to 12 for 2, back down 10 for the last two minutes. As someone mentioned above it keeps your body guessing and is handy for burning fat.

    Of course do it for longer than 10 minutes if you want to burn alot of fat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 155 ✭✭pugleon


    Have had the pain of b#tch t*ts in my time so hopefully this will be a big help. I've always used butterfly extentions on a weights bench (you lye down on the bench as if you are doing presses but there are two ropes with handles, you'll see what I'm talking about if you google it). Can be done with a normal bench and dumbells.

    So I started off for a week or two, day on day off. Lot of reps, low weight. That got a tone in the muscle. Once I could see that I started on less reps more weight. Till they were nice and toned. Have been ever since.

    Boxing and if you have no bag shaddow boxing will also help


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,286 ✭✭✭SprostonGreen


    BossArky wrote:
    Use a threadmill. Start off running at a comfy level for a few minutes to get the blood circulating. Now up the speed so that you are exerting yourself a bit more and starting to feel uncomfy after a minute or two. Bring the speed back down to the comfy level. After 2 mins rest bring it back up again... and so on.

    If I run I start off at 10kmph for 2 mins, up to 12 for two mins, down to 10 for 2, up to 12 for 2, back down 10 for the last two minutes. As someone mentioned above it keeps your body guessing and is handy for burning fat.

    Of course do it for longer than 10 minutes if you want to burn alot of fat.

    How often a week would you have to do this, to see good results?

    I start off for the first 3 mins at 5.5km per hour, then work up to
    10 or 11 km per hr for 3mins then a break of 5.5 for 1 minute.

    Usually I stay on for about 25 mins.

    That said, I still have flab below my navel, that I cant shift.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 9,588 Mod ✭✭✭✭BossArky


    For the past while I've been doing this about 4 times a week. Mon, Thurs or Fri, then Sat, Sun depending on work. Got up to 12kmph yesterday for the full 10mins.

    Another running variation to try this: Start off at 10kmph or whatever you want. Each minute increase the speed by 0.5kmph, see how long you can continue. When I get to about 14.5kmph after 9 or 10 minutes I'm ready to collapse.

    Do 10 mins on the bike first, then 10 mins running as mentioned above, then 30 to 40 mins of weights and other machines. I didn't do much running up until a few months ago, now I find it an excellent warm up ...good for toning stomach.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 607 ✭✭✭DAEDULUS


    Bossarky,from what I've read,a difference of 2km in your intervals is too small.
    When I do HIIT,I usually run at 9.5km/h for 1min then boost it up to 14.5/15km for 30sec and keep alternating from there..If this would be too hard in your case then you can just slow down your base speed to about 7.5(for 1min+) and bring the other up to 14(for around 20seconds) and aim for 12mins.


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