Help with Xbox Live.

derv

Hi,
i am going to buy myself an xbox , to play xbox live because i have only heard good things about it.
i have always been a PS2 man but i have been converted !!

i am going to mod the xbox too. getting a mate to do it as i don't know much about it.

but i am wondering is it ok to use a modded xbox online or is it "illegal" or anything.

please excuse my ignorance........
any advice you may have for me would be appreciated.

derv

or does anyone know where to buy a modded xbox ?
i know they are not allowed on here.

or are they "illegal" to sell ?

nialler

derv if you're caught with a modded xbox on live you get an instant ban, ie you'll not be able to log into live again with either that account or that xbox.

derv

so i guess that idea is out the window.

although isn't there some sort of switch mod you can do where you it will appear as normal online ?

CiaranC

You can theoretically play on live with a modded xbox if you have a modchip that can be switched on & off. Be warned however, when you initially connect to live a snapshot of your hardware configuartion is taken, and changing the hardware later (ie adding a bigger hd etc) will cause you to be permabanned.

Softmods are also detectable.

nialler

yeah there's softmods freely available on the web if you look. You'll need an copy of the original splinter cell I believe to install it.

derv

so basically i should not touch my xbox if i will be playing online all the time ?

btw cheers for your help guys.

CiaranC

To be honest, with xboxes selling for 99 second hand in game, Id get two - one for media centre stuff and one for live.

Alternatively, you could use xlink kai, a free tunnnelling service which allows you to play any system link enabled game online. There is a vibrant Halo 2 community on it, a modded xbox makes the experience better - and the price beats a tenner a month.

http://www.teamxlink.co.uk/

derv

i didn't know you could get one so cheap in game !!

tell me this much , and excuse my ignorance in this matter....
i have heard and read about halo 2 online and the cheats involved.

but how exactly do they cheat? what can you do to cheat?

CiaranC

Dunno really, I play a several hours a week on kai and have never seen any noticeable cheating.

derv

i will definitely look into that kai !! looks great.

another question.
if i set up my xbox on live ......
then i move house and try set it up on a different connection in a different location... is this allowed.

IE i'll be using it on Eircom BB in the home house.
then going back to college and will be wanting to use it on maybe ripwave or breeze.

shabbyroad

you can use your xbox live account anywhere. if you put your account information onto a memory card you can get onto live and play anywhere. I find this useful when using my account at work and at home or when I'm travelling.

silverlining

CiaranC wrote:

Dunno really, I play a several hours a week on kai and have never seen any noticeable cheating.

There are cheaters on Kai and it is really frustrating but thankfully the Kai tends to have less idiots on its service than Live! and Xbconnect. I tried XBconnect last night and could not believe the amount of cheaters, some of them even admitted it òver their headsets but kept playing. To make things worse I got kicked becasue I entered the arena about the same time as them so they thought it was me (I use a different halo profile name to my xbconnect username).
The cheats that annoy me the most though are the subtle ones like having slightly more armour, grenades etc than everyone else so you assume that they are just good players. The newly proposed kind of self-cleansing community for Kai evo8 gets my thumbs up even if it takes me longer to subscribe to it. Xbox Live! and xbconnect will never be cheater free without similar drastic action.

derv

what ..... like you mean they use cheats for extra weapons and stuff ?

silverlining

derv wrote:

what ..... like you mean they use cheats for extra weapons and stuff ?

I forgot to mention, these guys are assholes and I despise them, everything can be hacked from the size of players to making jeeps fly and changing the gravity. You will sometimes see arenas in Kai that state they are modded and using cheats but they just want you to join in so you can have a laugh at the flying warthog or autoaiming sticky grenades and I think that's okay but I wouldnt do it or encourage it because who is going to trust you if you have the software for cheating?
I've seen all those cheats mentioned above in normal Kai arenas too and that's when I get mad and curse these stupid people that are ruining my few hours of relaxation.
The new Kai system will initially have 1 person (the creator) who will invite about 200 other people he trusts and he will be repsonsible for them and can kick them for cheating. Those 200 people can then invite more people but they are responsible for their invitees and can kick them but the clever bit is that if one of those 200 initial members invites someone who starts cheating or screaming down the microphone and he doesnt kick them his rank will be lowered (after an investigation by someone above him) and he will lose control of his invitees or be put on probation. The beauty of this 'pyramid' system is that not just anyone can sign up, you will have to be invited by someone else and you will have to act responsibly on Kai or be banned along with the guy who invited you getting demoted. The problem with it is that it might take a lot of brown-nosing to get on initially but as long as you dont cheat you can enjoy playing without thinking that maybe the guy with 50 more kills than you has an auto aiming, inifnite ammo, automatic sniper rifle.

CiaranC

How could you possibly tell if someone has slightly more armour or extra grenades in a kai arena?

copernicus1

Lads,

I have both a modded x-box and normal. I got Broadband and play halo most nights through the offical MS site.

I bought the modded box so that I was not caught buying games that where crap. When i got BB and decided to play Halo 2 live i got a normal x-box and since i have I have only ever played live games and as a result i have to pay full price. The strage thing is that the live games are really good and dare i say it worth paying the full wac to have the experiance without any crap.

My advise is buy a normal x-box play live (halo 2) and if you don'y like it( wierdo) then mod your box.

i would be surprised if you where not happy with it

Preier Irish gaming Clan

www.Thewildrovers.net
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derv

yeah i love halo 2 , gotta be the best game out there!!
that's why i am buying the xbox.
i've never played it online but i play hours on end at the 2p mode.

gotta get the expansion pack too , looks good .

so now to sell my PS2 and locate a decently priced xbox.

thanks again for your helps lads

silverlining

CiaranC wrote:

How could you possibly tell if someone has slightly more armour or extra grenades in a kai arena?

That's my point, you cant so its worse than someone jumping really high which is obvious cheating. The new kai system will make you responsible for who you invite so you test the person one-on-one with the profile they enter with if you suspect that they are cheating. I know its not foolproof but it would certainly eliminate most cheaters (and annoying people who scream down the mic too)

derv

when i get set up can i give a few of ye a shout for a few games of halo .

i still have not a clue how to set everything up but i'm sure it's not rocket science

CiaranC

The new kai system will make you responsible for who you invite so you test the person one-on-one with the profile they enter with if you suspect that they are cheating.

Sounds to me like people who say 'such and such is cheating, but you cant really tell because he only has slightly more armour, so its real subtle, but thats why he kills me every time' are really looking for excuses as to why someone is simply better than them at the game.

GrumPy

Softmod, its free, easy and you can turn it off for xbox live.

silverlining

CiaranC wrote:

Sounds to me like people who say 'such and such is cheating, but you cant really tell because he only has slightly more armour, so its real subtle, but thats why he kills me every time' are really looking for excuses as to why someone is simply better than them at the game.

that's sometimes true, I've been accused of cheating before for doing really well in one round after a spate of losing badly. But you cannot rule it out as a possibility and if you think about it, subtle cheats are far worse than obvious ones in the long run, dont you agree?

derv

ok lads,
i am picking up my xbox tonight.
what do i need for xbox live? the headset i know,...

and what do i need to do ?

robinph

Just got myself an xbox this week and have been playing GTA but I'm going to get myself on Live too now. Live is $50 according to the web site, but I saw a pack in Game where you got Halo2, the headset and 12 months Live subscription for 80 euros so I'm going to get myself one of them today.

Edit: and I think that you still need a credit card to create your live account online even if you get one of the packs including the 12 month subscription.

derv

i am going to buy one of these
because i have halo 2 already , this is all i need afaik?

along with the network cable which i have,
a cc for subscription , this is 50 quid is it ?

robinph

derv wrote:

i am going to buy one of these
because i have halo 2 already , this is all i need afaik?

along with the network cable which i have,
a cc for subscription , this is 50 quid is it ?

Actually that looks like a better place to get it from as the MS site seems to think that $50 is the same as 60euro ?!?
http://www.xbox.com/en-IE/live/start/buy/default.htm

robinph

For anyone else that is thinking of getting connected to Live at the moment, the basic starter pack is 60euro's but you can also find this for a few notes more with another game included.

But I just got myself a 12 month connection starter box from Game though for 45 euro's that also comes with a copy of Fifi2005, and in the box for that game there was also a 2 month trial starter code. The card that that came on claimed that the offer should have finished at the end of March but it did still seem to work and I now have 14 months connection for less than the price of the 12 month connection, and a 'free' game as a bonus.

There also seems to be a link from the xbox live page where you can claim another 'free' game if you sign up for the full 12 months before the end of August. See the 'Unblock Xbox Live' section at the bottom of this page.

Don't know if I'll get the free game from that offer yet, but its worth a try.

DrummerBoy

So did you actually need a credit card to complete the subscription even though you bought the 12 month connection pack?

robinph

DrummerBoy wrote:

So did you actually need a credit card to complete the subscription even though you bought the 12 month connection pack?

Yes. You still need to have a credit card when your signing up, but they dont actually put any charge on it if you have the code from in the starter pack.

Well not until sometime next year when the subscription runs out anyway, and my card number will have changed by then. :rolleyes:

derv

can you get just a subscription on it's own ?

that's all i need as i have the live kit etc.

where is the best place to get it ?

robinph

derv wrote:

can you get just a subscription on it's own ?

that's all i need as i have the live kit etc.

where is the best place to get it ?

They subscription on its own is 59.99 if you pay online, or one of the starter packs which you can get for 60 which I've seen in Game and Exravision, but you get the headset with that as well anyway. Just means that you have a spare I guess.

But if they still have them you should get the starter pack that comes with Fifa2005 as that was only 45 in the Game in Liffey Valley at the weekend.

derv

jeez i didn't know that.
i will go down and have a look so...
wouldn't be a big fan of fifa but i could always sell the game.

cheers for the help.

robinph

derv wrote:

jeez i didn't know that.
i will go down and have a look so...
wouldn't be a big fan of fifa but i could always sell the game.

cheers for the help.

You might even be able to sell it back to Game the next day as a preowned one once you taken the 2 month trial out of it.

derv

robinph wrote:

You might even be able to sell it back to Game the next day as a preowned one once you taken the 2 month trial out of it.

nice one!
thanks for the help mate.

derv

i knew it could not be as simple as they make out!! :mad:

got the live kit and subscription etc today.
set averything up... and expected to be playing Halo2 live right now.

BUT NO.......

"xbox live cannot be found"
read through all the stuff they provide on the web and in the booklet.
then rang cust care.

supposedly i gotta set the MTU value on the router to 1500.

anyone able to help .... ?
i'm on eircom broadband with the netopia router

robinph

I didn't have to change any settings on my router to get connected, just plugged it all in and away I went.

Is it that you are looking for where to change the setting from? Can you even access the routers configuration pages?

derv

not sure how to to be honest.

robinph

Is this of any help?

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=264973

Cucullan

Has anyone played Pro Evo 4 on Xbox Live? Is there much slowdown?

derv

robinph wrote:

Is this of any help?

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=264973

legend
thanks mate.

derv

got everything set up there.

love it!!
i would have called myself farly handy at halo2 and i was proven very very wrong just now.
they seemed to have a lot more weapons though. and i only had the crao ap default gun every time.
also when i went for a match up i kept getting the same level every time.

gimme some tips people.....

robinph

I think I may be the wrong person for tips on Halo as all I've been doing on it so far is running round like a lunatic flinging grenades every where and getting killed considerable more ovften than anyone else around. But for some reason that I still have not figured out, even though I've been coming last, or second from last in pretty much every game I've played so far, it still keeps on moving my rank up.

Still good fun though.

But if you want some easy kills against me then my gamer tag is 'Spideog'.

derv

could they be using cheats in the levels?
because at the start they say in the game that the weapons are map default

and there is no way that the weapons they have are map default.
and i get stuck with the neddler!

i will give you a shout for a game at the weekend so,
mine is "dervgatremag"

derv

when i am in the middle of a game on love it just cuts out ,

it looses the connection.....

plug every thing out and back in again and it's fine for 5 minutes then it's gone again.

anyone ever head of this ?
please help