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Dubs Tickets

  • 20-07-2005 6:59pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1


    So its all ireland time for the dubs. any hints on gettin tickets for the next match?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,983 ✭✭✭Trampas


    Simple.

    Same way you got your tickets for all the other games


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,255 ✭✭✭✭Lemlin


    It'll be harder to get tickets for any teams' matches as they progress though because more and more so-called supporters will jump on the bandwagon that weren't bothered going to the earlier games.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,528 ✭✭✭dcr22B


    Lemlin wrote:
    It'll be harder to get tickets for any teams' matches as they progress though because more and more so-called supporters will jump on the bandwagon that weren't bothered going to the earlier games.

    Yep, it's unfortunate alright and they tend to be the kind of muppets who give us genuine supporters a bad name! :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,983 ✭✭✭Trampas


    At the final we had a few supporters (so call) who would have find in at a milwall game that a GAA game with the way they carried on with there should of w&nkers to Laois fans when they scored and cheered.

    Typical english football larger louts


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,255 ✭✭✭✭Lemlin


    That's the type you get alright. I was once offered two free tickets for a Dubs game but wouldn't take them because they were Hill tickets.

    I know several other people, some of them Dub fans, who feel the same.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,588 ✭✭✭Bluetonic


    Lemlin wrote:
    That's the type you get alright. I was once offered two free tickets for a Dubs game but wouldn't take them because they were Hill tickets.

    I know several other people, some of them Dub fans, who feel the same.

    I hope you turned them down becasue you were going to be too tired to stand for the whole match, otherwsie it a sad reflection on your generalising opinion.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,325 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kingp35


    Lemlin wrote:
    That's the type you get alright. I was once offered two free tickets for a Dubs game but wouldn't take them because they were Hill tickets.

    I know several other people, some of them Dub fans, who feel the same.

    Thats pretty sad really. You are generalising all dublin fans. Its a typical thing now that you get the odd idiot but of course because of this dublins most passionate fans get a bad name. i go to all dub games and wouldnt dream getting any other ticket other than a hill ticket. As does everybody I know who goes and that is alot of poeple.

    Do me a favour and stop generalising dub fans it really p1sses me off


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 305 ✭✭stevemac


    just a note on not going to the hill wearing a non-dublin jersey. at the match on sunday there was definatley some laois jersey's there. They did get swallowed up when the crowd came in for the 2nd game but there was maybe 10 there -ish.

    I was in the lower hogan near the hill on sunday. Mostly laois there, and even though we lost it was great game to be at. Most times the Hill started making noise we tried to make more, and vice versa.


    Only thing that i was disappointed in with the hill was when our minors where celebrating and comeing from the cusack to hogan stand half the hill were applauding while the other half were making "wanker" hand jesture's.
    Not a big thing but it seemed petty and immature to be doing that to minor team that most probable didn't see play. I can remember 2 years ago when the dub minors best us (laois), and most off our fans were in for that game. When the dubs went around celebrating we all applauded, so i think those jestures just reflect badly on those that did it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,255 ✭✭✭✭Lemlin


    Wasn't generalising. Just stating that I have no desire to stand on the Hill during a Dubs game and neither do several people I know.

    After all, I'm not a Dublin fan so why would I want to? Was only talking today with two neighbours (Dublin supporters) about how now is the time that tickets to matches are typically handed out to sunshine supporters rather than those who desrve them and have been to games all year.

    So why should a ticket to a Dublin game be wasted on me?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,757 ✭✭✭The Rooster


    Lemlin wrote:
    Was only talking today with two neighbours (Dublin supporters) about how now is the time that tickets to matches are typically handed out to sunshine supporters rather than those who desrve them and have been to games all year.

    That's not really true about sunshine supporters finding it easy to get tickets. Unless they regard sunshine supporters as lads who mark pitches/put up nets etc. for U11 games (or whatever) rather than going to Dublin league matches.

    Club members will certainly get preference over non club members from now on as tickets may not go on general sale. This is generally regardless of whether they've been to games previously, but that hardly makes them sunshine supporters. Of course there will be a certain amount of people "in the know" who will be able to find tickets from other sources - mainly corproate types I presume.

    But there is also a system in Dublin called the Parnell Park ticket scheme, where you can pay a lump sum once a year (€120-terrace €170-stand) which allows you free into Parnell Park for all Dublin league games (football and hurling) and all Dublin club games played there (quite a lot) and guarantees you a ticket to every Dublin championship game, which you have to pay for separately. So if your neighbours are neither a member of a club nor a member of the scheme, they really can blame nobody but themselves if they fail to get tickets for upcoming games.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,255 ✭✭✭✭Lemlin


    Of the two neighbours, one is pretty high up in Brigids GAA, training a team there, and I thought he'd have no bother getting tickets. Only 22,000 are available (well for the last Dubs match anyway) and some of those have to go on general release, not all can be given to the clubs.

    My point is that if tickets were going to the right people then I wouldn't of been offered 2 tickets to the Leinster final. 2 tickets I was offered by a workmate who got the tickets but didn't want to go because he had a hangover - does that sound like a loyal fan to you?

    I also know of a few lads going to the Wexford game who knew next to nothing about GAA and had no interest in the game. I raised this point before and someone said where better for someone like this to learn about the GAA than Croke Park. The problem though was that these lads weren't interested in going to learn about the game in the slightest.

    Just like the fans who made the signals mentioned above at the Laois minors.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,832 ✭✭✭Waylander


    Lemlin your moral ramblings about Dublin fans are really beginning to get tiresome now. I am sure Cavan have 40,000 polite gentlemanly or Ladylike fans at all their league matches, but really, that is the exception to the rule. Yes, Dublin has sunshine fans, as does every county in the country. Also these sunshine fans seem to have access to tickets, as they do in every other county in the country. Yes, Dublin has more of them, but then it has a massive population compared to every other county in the country.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 559 ✭✭✭Triton


    I think his point is that Dublin has about 50,000 more of those supporters than other teams in the country. I'd agree with him there even with the ;larger population its inexcusable. I may be from Meath and take great pleasure in seeing Dublin lose but I've had a few choice words shouted at me over the years at games by Dubs "supporters". Plenty of Meath fans have probably retaliated or said worse I know but to nowhere near the same extent I think. And do you realise that the word "proscratinate" means "to delay"? I think you used it in the wrong context there mate


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,832 ✭✭✭Waylander


    I stand corrected on my use of the english language :D, but how can the Meath fans say worse but not to the same extent?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,255 ✭✭✭✭Lemlin


    I don't just ramble on about Dublin fans. If you notice, I've said in the past that Tyrone fans are some of the worst I've come across and that Meath fans were actually the worst for their egg throwing incident at Cavan cars coming back from Croker in '97.

    Cavan has their fair share of sunshine supporters too. I like to see the team followed but it piss*s me off no end to see alot of the local shops and houses carrying flags and banners for the team only now that they've won a few games. Earlier in the year, this support was nowhere to be seen.

    My point was not against Dublin fans. It was about tickets going to the wrong people. It could of been to do with any county but I was showing my point by talking about a recent experience I had with two neighbours who were Dublin supporters. I don't see how that is moral rambling about Dublin fans.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 559 ✭✭✭Triton


    Extent = You only have one or two Meath hundred supporters being scumbags, whereas you have one or two thousand Dubs supporters. Alot of Meath supporters are only retaliating to stuff that is said to them, I've felt myself like hitting Dublin supporters with some of the things that have been said to me, I wouldn't even repeat them on this board. It may be a minority of Dublin fans but its still a large minority if you get what I mean. Every team have their own minority that's doing it but Dubolin have by far the biggest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,742 ✭✭✭blackbelt


    yes triton being the capital city and having the games played in croke park,dublin the big minority of scumbags are in force.

    i just want to ask you if you have been to pairc ui chaoimh,Cork and experienced any abuse from the rebels supporters or how about Dublin Airport with Armagh supporters shouting abuse and causing a scene?

    i think its typical that people jump on the bandwagon to criticize dublin supporters when there are counties who are actually far worse.the only difference is that all incidents are distributed more frequently amongst other county suppoerters.and remember there are 31 other counties besides dublin.

    like your gonna see fights and slagging wars outside croker and in the pubs but how about events such as a referee being seriously assaulted during a kerry club game,meath supporters throwing eggs etc.all i have to say is look at your own county first before commenting on others.not saying dublin supporters are all angels but you have to take into account the population.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,885 ✭✭✭Stabshauptmann


    Trampas wrote:
    At the final we had a few supporters (so call) who would have find in at a milwall game that a GAA game with the way they carried on with there should of w&nkers to Laois fans when they scored and cheered.

    Typical english football larger louts
    I thought the booing of the laois team when they came back on for the second half particularly appauling


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,885 ✭✭✭Stabshauptmann


    Ive only had problems with large numbers of supporters from certain couties:
    Armagh, Dublin, Meath. Thats it, I never had a problem with supporters from any other part of Leinster, any Munster Team or the handful of connaght and ulster supporters Ive sat beside. Just those 3 counties. That being said of course Ive sat beside hundreds if not thousands of proper supporters from Dublin over the years, but still, there is certainly that element of lout culture within them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,832 ✭✭✭Waylander


    I thought the booing of the laois team when they came back on for the second half particularly appauling

    Funnily enough I have not heard one criticism of Laois fans booing every free kick Mossie Quinn took in this game, yet when Dublin fans boo'd Mattie Forde it was a disgrace. Now we have something else to criticise them for.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,885 ✭✭✭Stabshauptmann


    Both sides booed free takers, its something an immature element in every county will do to put the free taker off. But booing a team returning to the pitch, thats very bad sportsmanship


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,325 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kingp35


    Ok I think I will have to clear up the original topic in this thread. Lemlin you honestly do not have a clue when it comes to how tickets are distributed. Not a clue!!! So I think ill clear it up with you and tell you how it actually happens.
    Lemlin wrote:
    Of the two neighbours, one is pretty high up in Brigids GAA, training a team there, and I thought he'd have no bother getting tickets. Only 22,000 are available (well for the last Dubs match anyway) and some of those have to go on general release, not all can be given to the clubs.

    This is utter rubbish. For the Laois game Dublin were allocated 22,000 and Laois were allocated 22,000. There was 35,000 requests from club members in Dublin for tickets. First off as mentioned earlier by The Rooster tickets were given to the fans who were part of the Parnell Park Scheme. ALL OF THE REMAINING TICKETS WENT TO CLUB MEMBERS. And since there was far more requests than tickets available many club members did not get a ticket and it is highly unlikely that a club would have given a ticket to anybody who had not requested a ticket for previous games so no "sunshine supporters" would have gotten a ticket through Dublins allocation of tickets.

    If you read the press release that was on hill16.ie it stated that no tickets would be going on general sale for Dublin fans as the entire allocation had been used up by club members. DO not come on to this thread talking rubbish about how Dublin allocates their tickets when you have absolutely no idea what your talking about!!
    Lemlin wrote:
    My point is that if tickets were going to the right people then I wouldn't of been offered 2 tickets to the Leinster final. 2 tickets I was offered by a workmate who got the tickets but didn't want to go because he had a hangover - does that sound like a loyal fan to you?

    I also know of a few lads going to the Wexford game who knew next to nothing about GAA and had no interest in the game. I raised this point before and someone said where better for someone like this to learn about the GAA than Croke Park. The problem though was that these lads weren't interested in going to learn about the game in the slightest.

    Ok Lemlin do the maths. 22,000 + 22,000 = 44,000. That leaves a hell of a lot of left over tickets doesnt it. If you take away the premium seats from the 82,000(approx) capacity which have to be bought for a season or a number of seasons and also the the tickets given to players families, sponsors etc you will be left with alot of tickets which then go on sale to the public through sites such as ticketmaster and GAA.ie. These tickets have nothing whatsoever to do with either counties allocation of tickets!! These are tickets that the GAA decide to put on general sale.

    Now ANY fan has the right to buy these tickets be it sunshine supporter or not. This is how you get people going to games that shouldnt be. It has nothing got to do with the way Dublin allocates their tickets it has got to do with the GAA and their idiotic way off allocating tickets but because of this anybody has the right to buy these tickets.

    SO to finalise do not come on here giving out about Dublin GAA when you have no idea what you are talking about. Dublin GAA gives tickets to club members first and if there is any left over then they are on sale to the public.
    I hope you understand now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,255 ✭✭✭✭Lemlin


    There's one big flaw in your argument, I never said that Dublin GAA were distributing the tickets wrong so get your facts right there please.

    I said the tickets went to the wrong people. I never mentioned who distributed hem. So before you get on your high horse and start sticking up for the Dublin GAA council, note that I wasn't slagging them off.

    You also backed up my point by saying that tickets do go on general release and end up with sunshine supporters. And, by the way, Laois got 27,000 tickets (5,000 more than Dublin) as they had the minors in the final too.

    So, I'm glad that's all cleared up!


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,325 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kingp35


    Lemlin wrote:
    Of the two neighbours, one is pretty high up in Brigids GAA, training a team there, and I thought he'd have no bother getting tickets. Only 22,000 are available (well for the last Dubs match anyway) and some of those have to go on general release, not all can be given to the clubs.

    Really?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 559 ✭✭✭Triton


    Really what? Your point says "some of those have to go on general release" and that's exactly what I said.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,325 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kingp35


    Triton wrote:
    Really what? Your point says "some of those have to go on general release" and that's exactly what I said.

    unless im going insane I thought I quoted Lemlin.

    And just to answer you No some of those dont have to go on general sale.
    Read above posts and Hill16.ie press release and you will see that all 22,000 dub tickets went to parnell park scheme ticket holders and club members


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,885 ✭✭✭Stabshauptmann


    Laois got 27,000 tickets (5,000 more than Dublin) as they had the minors in the final too.

    That was in the Indo before the match wasnt it? Yeah I remember the uproar and the laughter. Laois Count board got 7000[ tickets, thats 15,000 less than dubliun dispite having the minors as well. Then again, most laois fans got their tickets form the lenister council offices which are in Portlaoise.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    You should also be aware that every county in the province is entitled to a ticket allocation, irrespective of who is playing. It is a Leinster final


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,742 ✭✭✭blackbelt


    i would love for somebody to actually define "sunshine" supporters and what it is.I think its pretty obvious that when you say "sunshine" supporters that you are referring to fans who only go to the big games their counties are in and don't bother going to league games or have an interest before their county gets far.

    in saying that, anybody and everybody who wants to go to a match has the right to go once they purchase a ticket.i go to dublin league games as i live 3mins from parnell park.i have occasionally found it tough to get a ticket but its peoples rights to go to these matches like it or not.how can you say tickets go to the wrong people when they pay their cash to see the game.

    ps this excludes people who get them from a friend that dont want them


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,325 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kingp35


    blackbelt wrote:
    i would love for somebody to actually define "sunshine" supporters and what it is.I think its pretty obvious that when you say "sunshine" supporters that you are referring to fans who only go to the big games their counties are in and don't bother going to league games or have an interest before their county gets far.

    in saying that, anybody and everybody who wants to go to a match has the right to go once they purchase a ticket.i go to dublin league games as i live 3mins from parnell park.i have occasionally found it tough to get a ticket but its peoples rights to go to these matches like it or not.how can you say tickets go to the wrong people when they pay their cash to see the game.

    ps this excludes people who get them from a friend that dont want them

    In a way I agree but it really annoys me when I see a group of d4 girls going to a Dub game when they dont even know the rules just so they can follow their boyfriends or wear a dub jersey. Many other people go too just to jump on the band wagon

    They are the type of people that annoy me when they take a ticket from a true supporter of Dublin


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 332 ✭✭*marie*


    Totally agree with everything Kingp35 has said, I'm getting extremely tired of the constant insults directed at Dublin, its team and its supporters on this forum (mostly in other threads).

    Anyway, back to the original matter, does anyone know when tickets for the next match go on sale?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,325 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kingp35


    *marie* wrote:
    Totally agree with everything Kingp35 has said, I'm getting extremely tired of the constant insults directed at Dublin, its team and its supporters on this forum (mostly in other threads).

    Yeah it gets really annoying. There are so many dub bashers out there when it isnt justified at all really. GRanted there is the odd ocasion but that goes for EVERY county out there
    Anyway, back to the original matter, does anyone know when tickets for the next match go on sale?

    Well the game isnt for another 4 weeks so it will be at least 2 weeks before they go on sale but I imagine if you get down to your local club you can put your name down soon. Tickets get issued to clubs on the Thursdat before the game. General sale tickets usually go on sale a couple days before that but its still not entirely sure how the GAA are going to work this in that whether the Dub game will be on the Saturady or Sunday.

    Anyway nothing concrete can be decided untill all the final qualifying matches have been played so nothing will be known about tickets until then im afraid


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,885 ✭✭✭Stabshauptmann


    Kingp35 wrote:

    They are the type of people that annoy me when they take a ticket from a true supporter of Dublin

    ROLF


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