call or fold??

jimbling

Don't know that much about villian, but he had just suffered a bad beat, and while playing this hand was giving out to the other guy about calling him down after the flop and turn with his open-ended straight.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (6 max, 6 handed)

MP ($55.95)
CO ($45.40)
Button ($22.75)
SB (Villian) ($24.24)
Hero ($70.74)
UTG ($58.33)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 7c, Th. SB (Villian) posts a blind of $0.25.
UTG calls $0.50, 3 folds, SB (Villian) (poster) completes, Hero checks.

Flop: ($1.50) 9c, Js, 8c (3 players)
Villian checks, Hero bets $2, UTG folds, Villian calls $2.

Turn: ($5.50) 9s (2 players)
Villian checks, Hero bets $3, Villian calls $3.

River: ($11.50) Ks (2 players)
Villian bets $18.74 (All-In)

What do you do? and why?

jem

fold.
I would read a flush or straight, more likely a flush with a pair something like A8.
so after flop a pair , after turn a pair and a draw,

Dave

I don't know, it's hard to read a player on tilt. He could be trying to bluff the flush here. I'd call anyway. No real reason. But I'm not a great poker player. I would have bet bigger after the turn aswell.

jimbling

Im with you there dave - not a great poker player I mean. Since it happened I have been thinking that it should have been a fold. But taking that the guy might have been on tilt... he was commenting on this other guy chasing... I took it to be an out and out steal...

I was wrong....

the goon had 10 3 spades.....


Jem - by that read, do you read a flush every time there is a big bet with 3 suited cards on the deck? because won't people easily use that against you. If he knows you dont have the flush... due to the bets.. then just bet big and you'll fold... how do you combat that?

I mean he was calling like he was drawing... but who in there right mind would call pot sized bet to go for a runner runner draw.... just didnt seem likely (I do take your case of having a pair + draw alright). I was thinking he was drawing to the clubs... didnt hit, and since he was in a bit of a mood tried to steal the pot using the scary cards on deck..

then again... I was wrong and you were right... lol

pyure

my unprofessional opinion call, he's bluffing - i woulda bet more on the turn as well. id guess you have enough to beat him or else he's holding k9 *shrug* but what do i know about poker ?

EDIT: last reply came in while i was typing

jimbling

The reason I didnt overbet the turn etc... was because I was thinking he had one of two hands... he had a club flush draw... in which case it was about right... maybe could have been $4/5, but that might have scared him too much.

Or else... and what I was hoping for... was that he had just hit the set and would re-raise me pretty big.