Scooter on the M50

KTRIC

Would anyone care to explain why I was over taken at speed by a Gilera scooter on the M50 this morning. It was doing a least 80 mph. I was on my bike cruising at about 65 and this thing flew past me quite fast.
I though these things had a top speed of about 40 mph !!!!

alias no.9

K-TRIC wrote:

Would anyone care to explain why I was over taken at speed by a Gilera scooter on the M50 this morning. It was doing a least 80 mph. I was on my bike cruising at about 65 and this thing flew past me quite fast.
I though these things had a top speed of about 40 mph !!!!

50cc scooters are supposed to be limited to about 30mph though many will do up to 40. You can however get scooters up to 250cc and possibly even higher.

Chalk

the 180 runners are little bombers,
more popular with bank robbers than sports bikes.

KTRIC

They should change the sign on the motorway to "No vehicles under 49cc and scooters of any kind whatsoever (yer all scumbags)"

Garibaldi

Does your warranty cover the speedo?

KTRIC

Garibaldi wrote:

Does your warranty cover the speedo?

????????

Garibaldi

Sigh.....maybe he wasn't actually doing 65. Geddit? No? Oh well.

Oh, wait a minute, you *were* the "he", so maybe *you* weren't actually doing 65.

AlienGav

Garibaldi wrote:

Sigh.....maybe he wasn't actually doing 65. Geddit? No? Oh well.

I don't get that either... EXPLAIN!

KTRIC

Garibaldi wrote:

Sigh.....maybe he wasn't actually doing 65. Geddit? No? Oh well.

Oh, wait a minute, you *were* the "he", so maybe *you* weren't actually doing 65.

Oh I was doing 65 alright. No problem's in that department. I drive a brand new Kawasaki W650 so I doubt my speedo is faulty.

jackal

Yep, I got done for fun by a gilera 180! I was on the hornet 250, at the lights, and there was some revving going on... (stupid yeah!) Both took off, and the scooter destroyed me off the line, and then kept out in front the whole time... very embarassing. They make 20hp stock, top speed is 90mph! Can get up to close to 30hp with some relatively cheap tuning... keep in mind that they are light as anything too.

Eoin

K-TRIC wrote:

They should change the sign on the motorway to "No vehicles under 49cc and scooters of any kind whatsoever (yer all scumbags)"

I am pretty sure that they are banned from the motorway (vehicles under 50CC, not scumbags)?

ando

^^^^ Is that one?

KTRIC

ando wrote:

^^^^ Is that one?

Look's like it

528i

KTRIC

528i wrote:

I'd love a turbo charger and NOS on my bike, it'd probably blow up though

causal

K-TRIC wrote:

Would anyone care to explain why I was over taken at speed by a Gilera scooter on the M50 this morning. It was doing a least 80 mph. I was on my bike cruising at about 65 and this thing flew past me quite fast.

He was going faster than you - no shame in that

I though these things had a top speed of about 40 mph !!!!

Now that's shameful

causal

Johnerr

yea, i have a gilera 180, der rockets, no problems keeping up with traffic on the motorway, but when flat out if does seem a liitle dogey, like ur waiting for something to go worng, i got mine highly tuned somke anything off the lights,
mine is 23bhp after the tuning but about 18-19 std, 125 are about 12-13 bhp std, im selling it if anyone wants it €1500 2002 7000miles very good condition

Gatster

What's the insurance like on the Gilera 180?

Johnerr

i had it insured as a 50cc, so it was 800, but to insure a 125 in the country its about 2000, don;t know about 180, ainted got the licence to drive it, 125 bike with 180 engine, 125/180 are exactly the same apart from engine

KTRIC

Johnerr wrote:

i had it insured as a 50cc, so it was 800, but to insure a 125 in the country its about 2000, don;t know about 180, ainted got the licence to drive it, 125 bike with 180 engine, 125/180 are exactly the same apart from engine

Absolutly f*cking typical scooter driver. No insurance and no licence. Every biker on the road has to pay an inflated premium because of people like you.

OLDYELLAR

K-TRIC wrote:

They should change the sign on the motorway to "No vehicles under 49cc and scooters of any kind whatsoever (yer all scumbags)"

and a sign saying K-TRIC Your a tw*t too :rolleyes:

Dub13

Same thing happend to me the other day...I got a photo.Maybe its the same guy...?

stag39

the same bike passed me also on the m50 and i thought wtf was that...they sure are quick...luv to have one :rolleyes:

pcwares

I went head to head battle of the mods one morning on the motorway with one of those nackerwagon Gilera's. I have a suzuika katana 49cc - tuned up and my pick up was just a little ahead of her's as we took off after the toll but over distance to the slip road she made up about 20 yards. Beatch...must have been weight differential. What else would you be doing on a monday morning on the m50, stuck in traffic! Not the scooter massive -up the hardshoulder laughing at the V8's shunting and shuddering like creeping ivy towared the spread legs of the toll - the foul audacity. I tell you one thing - You rarly have to pay on a scooter at the toll. If you get past there is no law saying that you have to go back and pay. Its a legal loophole.
I saw a chap go through the barrier one morning and keep on going - the madman. Its a swing barrier that pops out as it meets the middle of your hood. Somebody just ran out and popped it back in like nothing happened.


Also did a take off against one of my mates who has a fireblade....No contest there --- ahead for 1 second and then dust, smoke.

Dub13

pcwares wrote:

one morning on the motorway with one of those nackerwagon Gilera's. I have a suzuika katana 49cc - .

You should not have been on the M50 with a 49cc

Roddy23

YE how'd ye get away with that?
I have seen a few times the guards on the M50 pulling over illegal mopeds.(49cc)
Quality stuff.

Supercell

My F650 leaves these kids in the dust..have had a few little f**kers reving their little engine at the lights..but that sound soon faded into the distance behind me when the lights go green, going to miss the childlike pleasure of it when when I get a car shortly.

Roddy23

Whats the story with Motorbikers when they see mopeds at the lights.
Even if the mopeders aren't attempting to "challenge them" the motorbikers always make it their business, to pass them out after the first 100 meters.
Seen it everyhwere, and its not just the couriers although, these are the most prolific.

causal

Roddy23 wrote:

Whats the story with Motorbikers when they see mopeds at the lights.
Even if the mopeders aren't attempting to "challenge them" the motorbikers always make it their business, to pass them out after the first 100 meters.
Seen it everyhwere, and its not just the couriers although, these are the most prolific.

Or you could say:
"Whats the story with pedalcyclists when they see pedestrians at the lights.
Even if the pedestrians aren't attempting to "challenge them" the pedalcyclists always make it their business, to pass them out after the first 100 meters.
Seen it everyhwere, and its not just the couriers although, these are the most prolific."

...iow one is naturally faster than the other.

Maybe they don't want to be held up by slower moving vehicles.
maybe there's also the machismo effect.
maybe there's also the tacit 'bore pecking order' effect.
maybe there's also the practical "I don't want to inhale your stinky 2-stroke smoke, so eat my end can" effect

causal

Roddy23

is this the way all motorbikers percieve mopeders to be like.
Saying this a lot of people who now ride motorcycles originally learnt the basic rules of the road on mopeds, and now they hold mopeds in such high contempt.

Supercell

Roddy23 wrote:

is this the way all motorbikers percieve mopeders to be like.
Saying this a lot of people who now ride motorcycles originally learnt the basic rules of the road on mopeds, and now they hold mopeds in such high contempt.

Never ever drove a moped in Ireland (drove one once in Crete on my holliers).
I learned on a Virago..a nice looking calm type bike

Mopeds are for girls.and boy racers that can't get insured on a car, thus leaving them in the dust on a real bike is a pleasure to overaged kids like me :P

causal

Roddy23 wrote:

is this the way all motorbikers percieve mopeders to be like.

No, I very much doubt it. I normally smile to myself when a moped/scooter pulls up beside me at the lights, looks at me and my bike, then sits with his eyes transfixed at the lights revving his circa 2hp engine for all it's worth waiting to pounce like a cheetah (with a limp). What I'm thinking is "what's your rush, and don't forget to make sure the junction is clear before you rush off".

Saying this a lot of people who now ride motorcycles originally learnt the basic rules of the road on mopeds,

I started on a scooter, but the vast majority of bikers I know didn't.

and now they hold mopeds in such high contempt.

I think that's a generalisation. I would say the majority of bikers have no problem at all with mopeds. If there is a problem then it most likely isn't with the machine*, it's with the scooterist/mopeder.

*unless you rewind back to the rockers and mods days, where the type of machine was a flag of sorts

Unfortunately there is a stigma associated with scooters due to the sterotypical image of a young yob with his helmet perched on his forehead, cigarette in mouth, another helmet on his elbow, and a girl on the back, pegging around the place.
Contrast this with the cool image enjoyed by scooterists in places like France and Italy.

Another reason why mopeds may have a bad reputation amongst bikers is mopeders/scooterists are one of the specifically stated reasons that Hibernian cited for pulling out of bike insurance. i.e. Provisionally licenced moped riders carrying passengers (contrary to the law) and the subsequent 3rd party claims, which Hibernian are obliged to pay.

causal