Nissan 'Double-Take' Offer...The Catch?

Drag00n79

Hi, just wondering what people think of the Nissan offer whereby if you buy a new Almera, Primera etc now you can exchange it for a brand new one in 2006. Is there some catch with this? It says on their site that 'Terms & Conditions Apply' but I can't see any.

mike65

I don't see how they can make it work unless say the "new" car is in fact an old one, ie curent model already registered and sat in a field somewhere when it'll be "new" for someone next year.

Does this offer apply if the model in question is superceeded by an upgraded version?

Mike.

ciarsd

lads i think this is a case of clever wording.

my understanding of it is: a 2006 car at 2005 price (i.e. buy a 05 Nissan Primera now for example, trade it in against a 06 Nissan Primera but pay the 05 price).

For best answer call Nissan

Cond0r

ciarsd wrote:

lads i think this is a case of clever wording.

my understanding of it is: a 2006 car at 2005 price (i.e. buy a 05 Nissan Primera now for example, trade it in against a 06 Nissan Primera but pay the 05 price).

For best answer call Nissan

Straight from the Nissan site:

NISSAN DOUBLE TAKE
Buy a new ’05 Nissan now and get a brand new ‘06 model next year absolutely free.

Now you can enjoy the luxury of two brand new Nissans for the price of one with Nissan
Double Take! All you have to do is buy a new Nissan Micra, Almera or Primera now and
we’ll exchange it for the equivalent ‘06 model next year, absolutely free. It’s that simple.


Check out some of the benefits you get with Nissan Double Take:


• 2 cars for the price of 1

• 2006 car at 2005 price

• 4 year warranty

• 3 year old car in four years time.

Seems to be a little bit contradictory.. on the one hand it says 2 cars for the price of 1, and on the other hand it says 2006 car at 2005 price.
If it is indeed the latter, I think it's a case for the ASAI

Flankerb

Once you keep below a certain mileage they take back the 2005 car and give you a 2006 car. They then sell on the 2005 car and still make a good profit because the mileage is kept low. I think its around 10000 miles. But you get charged a 150euro's for each 1000 you go over the limit. I thinks its the only the can sell the primera what a brutal suspension a friend bought one and brought us out for a spin we hit one pothole not a bad one I may add but the noise the suspension/body made I thought we had hit a cement block. The Micra's are good and the almera's aint bad but leave the primera well alone I have heard several stories this. :eek:

Eoin

Cond0r wrote:

Straight from the Nissan site:

Seems to be a little bit contradictory.. on the one hand it says 2 cars for the price of 1, and on the other hand it says 2006 car at 2005 price.
If it is indeed the latter, I think it's a case for the ASAI

It is very contradictory:

we’ll exchange it for the equivalent ‘06 model next year

...

2 cars for the price of 1

You could only call it 2 cars for the price of one if you get to keep the original one.

jlang

Presumably you're buying a car in the second half of 2005 and they won't give you your 2006 car until the end of 2006 - both times when they need to get cars off the forecourts to get their numbers up. I can't see it working if they'll let you swap for your second car come January.

bazz26

I have also heard that part of the conditions is that it is only open to cash customers only, no trade-in. Cannot confirm this part though.

But I know that in order to qualify for this offer you have to take up their finance package which is a hire purchase agreement over 4 years I think.

Seth Brundle

I think the biggest catch is that you have to drive around in a Nissan Micra/Almera/Primera

stratos

kbannon wrote:

I think the biggest catch is that you have to drive around in a Nissan Micra/Almera/Primera

Damn you beat me. Though I bet most people move house so, Nissan can't find them to supply the second car.

unkel

Well I emailed Paul the Nissan Man this afternoon to send me the T&C. Not that I'm interested myself in buying one - or two

Just for all of us to know. Will share when (if) I get reply

eoin_s wrote:

You could only call it 2 cars for the price of one if you get to keep the original one.

Agree

AMurphy

Seems straight forward, however, you might want to check that items like tax, VRT, new car registration, etc are covered.
If you have a loan/lease, you may have fees that are not covered.
and/or it is mileage limited. ie if you do more than 15K in the year, you cannot apply.

eg, you might win $10Mill in the lottery here, but nobody mentions that the taxman takes ~50% immediately.

So just ask for a full disclosure of the exclusions, there's probably more than 4.

Drag00n79

Is the Primera really that bad a car? I was thinking of buying one. What do people thnk? Also thinking of Avensis.

Cyrus

only nissan id be seen in is a skyline and a 350z which proves they can make decent cars, however the standard range cars are horrible soulless tat

Drag00n79

Cyrus wrote:

only nissan id be seen in is a skyline and a 350z which proves they can make decent cars, however the standard range cars are horrible soulless tat

I'm looking for an ultra-reliable, relatively comfortable, largish car around 25k-27k. I thought a primera would fit the bill?

Eoin

Shamrok wrote:

I'm looking for an ultra-reliable, relatively comfortable, largish car around 25k-27k. I thought a primera would fit the bill?

I would have thought so, I think the primera is a fine car and the specifications seem very good. If I am thinking of the right car: the one with a slightly pointy nose, and a big computer type console in the middle of the dash?

Squirrel

Shamrok wrote:

I'm looking for an ultra-reliable, relatively comfortable, largish car around 25k-27k. I thought a primera would fit the bill?

If you can up the budget slightly the Hyundai Sonata, or go for the old model, very comfortable

Cyrus

Shamrok wrote:

I'm looking for an ultra-reliable, relatively comfortable, largish car around 25k-27k. I thought a primera would fit the bill?

does it have to be new?

causal

imho Toyota Avensis is the better choice.
Better reliability, safer car (5 stars on EuroNCAP, Primera only got 4 stars).
Better resale value. Nicer looking car.

The only thing the primera has in it's favour is the colur reversing camera and iirc satnav. Nissan stupidly say that with the reversing camera you will "never look back". Extremely dangerous to reverse a car loooking at a screen on the dash
Hello blindspots - goodbye pedestrian.

The Sonata probably has even more extras - but the resale value is poor.

causal

Drag00n79

Cyrus wrote:

does it have to be new?

Well, I would only buy an 04 or 05 second hand tbh.

Drag00n79

causal wrote:

imho Toyota Avensis is the better choice.
Better reliability, safer car (5 stars on EuroNCAP, Primera only got 4 stars).
Better resale value. Nicer looking car.

Thanks, appreciate the opinion.

knifey_spoonie

Its a very costly hire purchase scheme you pay extra for any milage over a set limit which is small and scratches dents are paid for by at nissian prices no arguments.Its just to get nisians number up they have fallen hugly in comparison with other manufacturers who have all incresed unit sales this year.they also trying to bring up market segment shares the micra has about 6% of its market the almera is same and the primera is about 4%.

unkel

Here ya go

Nissan Ireland wrote:

Thank you for your recent enquiry regarding the new Nissan Double Take offer.

This offer was launched on April 11th and enables customers to purchase a new Nissan Micra, Almera or Primera now and exchange it free of charge for the equivalent 2006 model next year. This offer was originally due to end on June 30th but has now been extended until July 31st.

This offer is based on the full Recommended Retail price of the 2005 vehicle and in availing of the offer, customers benefit from the following:
- An extended 4 year warranty
- 2006 car at 2005 prices - by availing of the offer customers are protected from any potential future price increases.
- Choice of driving two different colours
- Reduction in maintenance costs
- Specification upgrades, where applicable, will come at no extra charge
- Better price for Trade-In now rather than next year
- More valuable and younger car when changing in the future

There are some terms and conditions connected to this offer such a mileage limitation of 18,000km on the 2005 car, and a charge of 15c per litre above this. Also, the 2005 car must be comprehensively insured by the customer, and the customer is responsible for repairing any damage to the car during this time.
This offer is being run throughout the Nissan Dealer Network and of our main dealers would be happy to discuss this offer further with you. I attach a list of Nissan dealers for your information.

Please do not hesitate to contact either myself or your local Nissan dealer for further information.

Kind regards,

Sarah Coleman





Sarah Coleman
Marketing Communications Coordinator

NISSAN IRELAND
________________________
Nissan House
P.O. Box 910
Naas Road
Dublin 12
Ireland
Phone: +353 1 409 1119
Fax: +353 1 409 1103

Drag00n79

Thanks a mill, Unkel!

mike65

Specifing "Comp insurance" means they are'nt going to get too many takers even in these days of plenty. The 18,000 km limit won't be a problem for most potential buyers.

Mike.

jlang

Surely most people buying new cars get comprehensively insured?

podge3

I looked into this when I was changing my Primera recently. Its a bit of a rip off really.

Basically it means that if buying with cash you get not discount i.e. you lose 2-3K discount.

If you have a trade in, you will only get the trade price for the car i.e 2 -3 K less than the "normal" trade in price.

mike65

jlang wrote:

Surely most people buying new cars get comprehensively insured?

Maybe they do - would'nt know. Buying new is an alien concept.

Illogial Captian.

Mike.

bazz26

causal wrote:

imho Toyota Avensis is the better choice.
Better reliability, safer car (5 stars on EuroNCAP, Primera only got 4 stars).
Better resale value. Nicer looking car.

The only thing the primera has in it's favour is the colur reversing camera and iirc satnav. Nissan stupidly say that with the reversing camera you will "never look back". Extremely dangerous to reverse a car loooking at a screen on the dash
Hello blindspots - goodbye pedestrian.

The Sonata probably has even more extras - but the resale value is poor.

causal

I can second that for the Avensis, way better car than the Primera, its the best selling car in that class here in Ireland last year. Yes it may not look or drive as good as some other cars but it is comfortable, reliable, safe and good value for money. These things are more important to me than looks. I have a current 1.8 model for just over 2 years now and have covered 54k miles without any problems. Equipment is good for this class also, things like dual zone climate control, 9 airbags, traction control, rain sensing wipers, "follow me home" headlights, folding electric mirrors, etc all standard on the 1.8 for €28k. Resale value is pretty good also, I was thinking of trading up a couple of months ago and my local dealer was looking for €6,500 with mine for a brand new one which I thought was a good deal.

I test drove the Primera and found it terrrible, the dash was a nice design but quality just wasn't there and that stereo/camera was very fiddley and the buttons were flimsy. Also found the car to be very light on the road and sluggish compared to the Avensis or Mazda 6. Primera depreciation is pretty steep also and one of the heaviest in its class.

Guy:Incognito

mike65 wrote:

Maybe they do - would'nt know. Buying new is an alien concept.

Illogial Captian.

Mike.

Well without it there would beno second hand cars.

bazz26

Stekelly wrote:

Well without it there would beno second hand cars.

Very true. :cool:

unkel

podge3 wrote:

Its a bit of a rip off really

Not necessarily

podge3 wrote:

Basically it means that if buying with cash you get not discount i.e. you lose 2-3K discount

True

It all depends (from an economic point of view) how often the buyer intended to change car again independent of the offer. If it is 1 year, he is getting a bargain as first year depreciation on a Primera would be at the very least €4k. If it is 2 years, then it's still pretty decent. If it's more, the concept loses attraction

Then there's the snobbery point of view, i.e. show off another brand new car yet again next year to the neighbours

@Mike65: there's very little difference in premium generally (there are exceptions!) between TPF&T and fully comp. If your car is worth as little as say €5k it might make sense to go comp. Pretty much 100% of new cars would be comp I would guess

Gatster

eg, you might win $10Mill in the lottery here, but nobody mentions that the taxman takes ~50% immediately

Erm, not true...you only pay tax on income earned from the interest (I think), but definitely not on the win itself. Not that I'd use it to buy a Micra/Almera/Primera, no matter how many you got for the price of one.

Victor

jlang wrote:

Presumably you're buying a car in the second half of 2005 and they won't give you your 2006 car until the end of 2006 - both times when they need to get cars off the forecourts to get their numbers up. I can't see it working if they'll let you swap for your second car come January.

Will it be a new (i.e. unused) 2006?

sales bimbo wrote:

mileage limitation of 18,000km on the 2005 car, and a charge of 15c per litre above this

Airblazer

causal wrote:

imho Toyota Avensis is the better choice.
Better reliability, safer car (5 stars on EuroNCAP, Primera only got 4 stars).
Better resale value. Nicer looking car.

The only thing the primera has in it's favour is the colur reversing camera and iirc satnav. Nissan stupidly say that with the reversing camera you will "never look back". Extremely dangerous to reverse a car loooking at a screen on the dash
Hello blindspots - goodbye pedestrian.

The Sonata probably has even more extras - but the resale value is poor.

causal

you've obviously never drove one..with the camera in the primera you can see about 6 feet back...obviously you check your side mirrors 1st..even says it on the console screen..the avensis are horrible looking..was very disappointed with the new look..very pretentious..and they also have the same probs with the earlier primera (01/02) no camera and you can't see the boot..try counting all of the avensis with dents in their boots..

BrianD

What about the BMW 1 series offer. Pay €350 deposit and then €350 per month for two years. You then give the car back to them.

Squirrel

BrianD wrote:

What about the BMW 1 series offer. Pay €350 deposit and then €350 per month for two years. You then give the car back to them.

Would that not make insurance a bit confusing because the garage would be the registered owner?

Mercury_Tilt

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Guy:Incognito

BrianD wrote:

What about the BMW 1 series offer. Pay €350 deposit and then €350 per month for two years. You then give the car back to them.

Rent a car for €350 a month? no thanks

DublinWriter

Shamrok wrote:

I'm looking for an ultra-reliable, relatively comfortable, largish car around 25k-27k. I thought a primera would fit the bill?

It sure would, but wave bye-bye to €5K as you are driving a new model off the forecourt.

The Primera are ultra-reliable, but I went off them after Renault's re-styling.

I've driving one of the older models now and at the end of the year I'm going to spend the same amount of money you are talking about for a new Primera on a 3/4 year old Merc E200/E220 or Jag S-Class.

Gatster

Rent a car for €350 a month? no thanks

Try renting a 1 series, or anything, anywhere, for €350 a month. Personal contract leasing is a very popular way of running a car in most European countries, it's a bit of a scam in that it almost guarantees a supply of well mantained 2-3 year old cars for the dealer but if you've got the cash and aren't bothered by 'ownership', it's useful enough.

Victor

Squirrel wrote:

Would that not make insurance a bit confusing because the garage would be the registered owner?

I don't think it matters once things are covered appropriately and the insurance company knows.

BrianD

Well technically when you lease a car the bank provideing the finance owns it. I'd imagine that there is some structure in place to accomodate this contract hire arrangement. It's common enough in the business world.

causal

Airblazer wrote:

you've obviously never drove one..with the camera in the primera you can see about 6 feet back...obviously you check your side mirrors 1st..even says it on the console screen..

Does it say to look out your side windows front and rear on both sides?
Does it say to lean forward and back for each of the above to eliminate the blind spots from the pillars?
I cited the reversing mirror as a positive aspect of the Primera. I did so because it eliminates the large blind spot caused by the rear of the car. But it should be used in addition to all of the other observations I mentioned above.
I said Nissan were stupid for saying you will never look back - because it suggests poor observation.

the avensis are horrible looking..was very disappointed with the new look..very pretentious..

"Very pretentious" - a Toyota Avensis! - how so?

Anyway, looks are a matter of opinion, I prefer the look of the Avensis to the Primera, but neither are 'good looking'. In that class of car I'd suggest the Mazda 6 or Peugeot 407 if looks are you thing.

causal

Squirrel

causal wrote:

Does it say to look out your side windows front and rear on both sides?
Does it say to lean forward and back for each of the above to eliminate the blind spots from the pillars?
I cited the reversing mirror as a positive aspect of the Primera. I did so because it eliminates the large blind spot caused by the rear of the car. But it should be used in addition to all of the other observations I mentioned above.
I said Nissan were stupid for saying you will never look back - because it suggests poor observation.

Are you told to do any of that anytime you reverse in any other car, no, so it's doing more than most.

causal

Squirrel wrote:

Are you told to do any of that anytime you reverse in any other car, no, so it's doing more than most.

Even if that is the case, I think it's simply not good enough that a car manufacturer tells it's customers to check their side mirrors and then reverse the car while looking at a small screen on the dashboard.
As I said already, the camera is a great addition to other observations, but it's no substitute for continually looking out the windows and at the mirrors while reversing.
A little bit of knowledge can be a dangerous thing.

causal

Squirrel

causal wrote:

Even if that is the case, I think it's simply not good enough that a car manufacturer tells it's customers to check their side mirrors and then reverse the car while looking at a small screen on the dashboard.
As I said already, the camera is a great addition to other observations, but it's no substitute for continually looking out the windows and at the mirrors while reversing.
A little bit of knowledge can be a dangerous thing.

causal

I'm agreeing with you, I'm just saying that no other system tells you to check mirrors, which isn't enough, but it's a start