Digiwebs NEW DSL Packages!!!

zuma

I realise that this has been posted in the Ireland Offline forum already...but I feel that it should be in the Broadband forum as well to stimulate public reation.
If I am incorrect then please move/delete.


Righ then Digiweb have doubled the CAPS in their 1Mbit and 2Mbit packages.

Look here Digiwebs New Offers.

At €43 a month incl. VAT the 2Mbit package is far and away the best 2Mbit on offer.
BT prices their 2Mbit at €40 with a 24GB CAP...with Eircom/UTV having a lowly 16GB CAP(Digiweb 1Mbit has a 20GB CAP!).

Views and reactions???

OfflerCrocGod

Nice, what I'd really want is more upload, with 128 it's just such a pain to download and browse or play online with more then one or two players. Still it shows that €ircoms caps are utter rubbish - they could implement these caps too if they really wanted to compete.

zuma

Personially I couldnt give two sh!ts, what eircom offers to its direct DSL customers any more as their 2Mbit(€54.45 per month.) connection is horrible expensive with a CAP which is currently lower than that offered by Digiwebs 1Mbit package!!!

If Digiweb can offer 40GB...then I expect BT(my provider) to offer 40GB(why they didnt at least double to 32GB when speeds increased I fail to understand).
Honestly I think they should as not everyone will download 40GB in a month...but in an emergency its nice to know that you wont get a huge bill at the end of the month.

Is anyone here interested in moving to/currently with Digiweb and what are your reactions???

causal

zuma wrote:

At €43 a month incl. VAT the 2Mbit package is far and away the best 2Mbit on offer.

Are you talking DSL only?
NTL: 2Mbps/200kbps - 30GB cap - €35 per month
NTL: 3Mbps/300kbps - 40GB cap - €45 per month
I won't even mention cablesurf.

causal

zuma

Of course I was talking DSL......unless of course Digiweb have started doing cable broadband????

The name of the thread placed emphaisis on DSL.

kaizersoze

Honestly I think they should as not everyone will download 40GB in a month...but in an emergency its nice to know that you wont get a huge bill at the end of the month.

What kind of internet emergency are you refering to?
Personally, I think the BT 2mb package @ €50 incl. line and 24gb cap (€35 for new BB connections) is a better deal. Money and speed was the two most important factors when I moved from UTV to BT. 40 gig is nice but I wouldn't pay an extra €15 for it. The added bonus is not having to deal directly with Eircom.
Also those new prices are only available to new BB connections so transferring is not an option.

mp3guy

Looks cool, but it still doens't beat UTV. Its easy to stay under 8GB a month once you're not doing anything illegal wink wink. And UTV have free local calls after 6, so I see no point in moving, as everyone increases their bandwidth UTV are bound to follow.

philologos

OfflerCrocGod wrote:

Nice, what I'd really want is more upload, with 128 it's just such a pain to download and browse or play online with more then one or two players. Still it shows that €ircoms caps are utter rubbish - they could implement these caps too if they really wanted to compete.

i get good pings on games now on BT Broadband with a 128KB/s upload:
45 :: FarCry & MultiTheftAuto
40 - 60: Call of Duty
70 - 90: CSS

zuma

Jakkass wrote:

i get good pings on games now on BT Broadband with a 128KB/s upload:
45 :: FarCry & MultiTheftAuto
40 - 60: Call of Duty
70 - 90: CSS

upload speeds have nothing to do with pint times.

zuma

mp3guy wrote:

Looks cool, but it still doens't beat UTV. Its easy to stay under 8GB a month once you're not doing anything illegal wink wink. And UTV have free local calls after 6, so I see no point in moving, as everyone increases their bandwidth UTV are bound to follow.

I wouldnt bet money on UTV increasing their CAP and their current bandwidth is 2M/128k...which eircom controls.

zuma

kaizersoze wrote:

What kind of internet emergency are you refering to?
Personally, I think the BT 2mb package @ €50 incl. line and 24gb cap (€35 for new BB connections) is a better deal. Money and speed was the two most important factors when I moved from UTV to BT. 40 gig is nice but I wouldn't pay an extra €15 for it. The added bonus is not having to deal directly with Eircom.

You do realise that some people dont have their line rental with BT(myself for example) and that €3 more a month for a 40GB CAP appears like a very nice deal.

Also those new prices are only available to new BB connections so transferring is not an option.

Actually they are for all customers...only Free installation is applicable to new DSL customers.

dahamsta

zuma wrote:

upload speeds have nothing to do with pint times.

C'MON, C'MON, I HAVE TO GET TO THE PUB!

(I beg to differ.)

jesus_thats_gre

zuma wrote:

upload speeds have nothing to do with pint times.

They do not affect it assuming there is enough bandwidth to transfer the data that is required to play the game online..

128k should be sufficient but that is assuming the whole 128k is being made available.

kaizersoze

You do realise that some people dont have their line rental with BT(myself for example) and that €3 more a month for a 40GB CAP appears like a very nice deal.

Thats my point. The all in 2mb package from BT is a better deal than having BB from one provider and line rental going to another.
Where are you getting €3 from?
BT = 2mb, incl line, 24gb cap - €50pm
Digiweb = 2mb + line, 40gb cap - €43+€24.18 = €67.18pm
So it's €17.18pm extra for the bigger cap.

juliuspret

Where am I getting €3 from?

Excludeing line rental which I have no control over:

BT
€40 a month

Digiweb
€43 a month

Line rental will be €24.18 a month whatever I do(Smart is far cheaper if you make calls to other Smart customers most of the time)...with the extra 16GB costing €3...I think its a good deal.
Remember kaizersoze not everyone can just jump to another phone provider as easily as you.

kaizersoze

Remember kaizersoze not everyone can just jump to another phone provider as easily as you.

Well juliuspret everyones personal circumstances are different and I never said don't sign up for Digiweb if you think it is right for you. There are also many who cant jump to another broadband provider either because of contracts and whatnot. If we only discussed BB packages that everyone could avail of, it would be a very short discussion

mang87

Caps, caps, caps. I'm staying put until eircom start implementing charges on breaking the cap.

zuma

Hey mang87,

How much would download in a month?
I'm trying to get a feel of how much people download in a month and see if the doubling of CAPS by Digiweb will be of much use.

jesus_thats_gre

zuma wrote:

Hey mang87,

How much would download in a month?
I'm trying to get a feel of how much people download in a month and see if the doubling of CAPS by Digiweb will be of much use.

why are you trying to get a feel for this..

You are a bit excitable aren't you?

kaizersoze

You are a bit excitable aren't you?

mang87

zuma wrote:

Hey mang87,

How much would download in a month?
I'm trying to get a feel of how much people download in a month and see if the doubling of CAPS by Digiweb will be of much use.

20-28gb

zuma

mang87 wrote:

20-28gb

On eircoms 2Mbit product?
Whats the most you have downloaded in a month and have eircom ever contacted you?

causal

zuma wrote:

Of course I was talking DSL......unless of course Digiweb have started doing cable broadband????

Oh but of course :rolleyes:
In your original post you said

Views and reactions???

It would appear you're more interested in reactions than views.

causal

Gone West

zuma wrote:

On eircoms 2Mbit product?
Whats the most you have downloaded in a month and have eircom ever contacted you?

300+gig
Eircom didnt contact me because I dont use them, I use a real ISP.

zuma

causal wrote:

Oh but of course :rolleyes:
In your original post you said
It would appear you're more interested in reactions than views.

causal

What a waste of a comment that must have been!

mang87

zuma wrote:

On eircoms 2Mbit product?
Whats the most you have downloaded in a month and have eircom ever contacted you?

.... 28

CyberGhost

FuzzyLogic wrote:

300+gig
Eircom didnt contact me because I dont use them, I use a real ISP.

wow that's a lot! who is your isp?

zuma, WellyJ is the boards.ie's download champion, he leeched like 100 gigs in a month, he is our version of William Wallace

Sarunas

hum, I wonder will the existing costumers be switched to the new packages.

I got BizJet in work last week (45 ex vat/55 inc vat) 2mb down/128 up with 20gb cap...

colin300

My simple question has to be are DIGIWEB any good?

Gone West

CyberGhost wrote:

wow that's a lot! who is your isp?

zuma, WellyJ is the boards.ie's download champion, he leeched like 100 gigs in a month, he is our version of William Wallace

My isp is one of the american cable providers.
I know people from sweeden, who do double this every month. (gotta love 100 mbit fiber to the home)

WellyJ, champion?
Nah.

CyberGhost

Well Sweden and Finland, are the best!

btw, how is America's ISPs attitute about going over the cap?(if you have it at all) or downloading large amounts of data?

I forgot to tell you WellyJ is with eircom! so the data he leeches is truly heroical

Gone West

Cap?
I asked the lady in the shop did they have a download cap, and she said

"why would we do that now? that'd be like limiting the internet. That wouldnt count as broadband, would it?"

So I smiled, went home and queued up a few hundred torrents.

zuma

FuzzyLogic your downloading amounts dont really count as they are from a US ISP and as such are not representitive of anything that happens in Ireland.

Did a search on WellyJ...hes gone well over 100GB if his monthly usage charts are to believed!!!
But people have been charged...~€200 for another large downloader!!!

AdMMM

FuzzyLogic wrote:

Cap?
I asked the lady in the shop did they have a download cap, and she said

"why would we do that now? that'd be like limiting the internet. That wouldnt count as broadband, would it?"

So I smiled, went home and queued up a few hundred torrents.

How did you manage to send me that DVD then using an irish stamp?

Gone West

I was home for a month, to do my leaving cert.
Now I'm back in the states again.
*ahem. what dvd.
*ahem

Cabaal

FuzzyLogic wrote:

Cap?
I asked the lady in the shop did they have a download cap, and she said

"why would we do that now? that'd be like limiting the internet. That wouldnt count as broadband, would it?"

So I smiled, went home and queued up a few hundred torrents.

Thats all very fine and well but you need it in writing or its worth crap with they come to charge you for going over the cap.

Gone West

cabaal: there is no cap.
None of the DSL/cable/sat/wireless providers in the state have any sort of cap or download limit. Nor do they throttle my speeds.
My point however, was not to 'boast' about my 'l33t phat pip3' however
My point was to show that when there are 6+ broadband providers in my area alone, they will do whatever it takes to get my business.

zuma

So competition really works....eeh???

That competition is something that eircom is clearly not interested in!!!

CyberGhost

yea, and Smart really scared them

colin300

right instead of this getting into what they have in america can someone please answer my question. Is DIGIWEB any good?

zuma

Digiweb DSL is an eircom bitstream....effectively its as good as BT/eircom/UTV technically(unsure about customer support) and the 40GB CAP is excellent!!!!

Personially for high downloaders who have no control over the line rental costs it the best.

digitaldr

I've been with Digiweb for about 18 months. I had one 3 week outage which was blamed on Eircom - very annoying. Other than that I there haven't been too many problems and if you need to talk to someone in support they usually answer pretty quickly. I don't know if I'll be benifiting form the new prices - think I'll give them a ring tomorrow to find out.

I'm not a games player but here's the pings anyway:

Pinging boards.ie [82.195.136.36] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 82.195.136.36: bytes=32 time=25ms TTL=56
Reply from 82.195.136.36: bytes=32 time=28ms TTL=56
Reply from 82.195.136.36: bytes=32 time=29ms TTL=56
Reply from 82.195.136.36: bytes=32 time=34ms TTL=56

Ping statistics for 82.195.136.36:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 25ms, Maximum = 34ms, Average = 29ms

Blaster99

zuma wrote:

Digiweb DSL is an eircom bitstream....effectively its as good as BT/eircom/UTV technically(unsure about customer support) and the 40GB CAP is excellent!!!!

Personially for high downloaders who have no control over the line rental costs it the best.

On paper, you mean. The resellers provide their own transit connections and I believe some of the backhaul from a number of POP's in Ireland and there's plenty of evidence to suggest that they're not all the same. A while ago there were a lot of people complaining about Digiweb's ADSL services, but it has been fairly quiet recently so things have possibly settled down.

zuma

Blaster99 wrote:

On paper, you mean. The resellers provide their own transit connections and I believe some of the backhaul from a number of POP's in Ireland and there's plenty of evidence to suggest that they're not all the same. A while ago there were a lot of people complaining about Digiweb's ADSL services, but it has been fairly quiet recently so things have possibly settled down.

Yeah a Digiweb tech started helping out people about a week ago...good service IMHO!!!

Still an extra €3 amonth for an extra 16GB onto my CAP seems good!

Sarunas

Been on digiwebs bizjet at work for over a week now, here is few nits:

They don't tell you whats their dns, mail, news servers when the modem arrives.
Not sure is this phone lines, digiwebs or the modems fault, but when using the zyxel 660(i think) modem in bridge mode with openbsd; when the modem is shut down, and powered on again openbsd can't connect anymore (so i have to restore factory settings, and configure the modem back to bridge mode).

iluvbeer

Sent a mail to Digiweb when I heard about these new packages enquiring for
my options about moving between the 1M and 2 M package. Just got this reply and I am not happy!

The new packages are available to new customers only and our current customers will continue to operate under the previous packages although they can avail of the increased allowances on the monthly traffic quota. Ruairí Watters | Sales Executive, Digiweb Ltd. rwatters@digiweb.ie

So the existing customers will go on paying 38.99 while a new customer will get exactly the same for 29.95. I'm off right now looking at other providers available to me. :mad:

crawler

iluvbeer wrote:

Sent a mail to Digiweb when I heard about these new packages enquiring for
my options about moving between the 1M and 2 M package. Just got this reply and I am not happy!



So the existing customers will go on paying 38.99 while a new customer will get exactly the same for 29.95. I'm off right now looking at other providers available to me. :mad:

Same with all ISPs I'm afraid....it depends on the Wholesale offer available from eircom at the time you are connected You can move to the new price at the end of your contract though....

iluvbeer

crawler wrote:

You can move to the new price at the end of your contract though....

My initial contract of 12 months was up two months ago.
I've been with Digiweb for a total of 14 months now.

Surely the existing subscribers are entitled to this?

Blaster99

crawler wrote:

Same with all ISPs I'm afraid....it depends on the Wholesale offer available from eircom at the time you are connected You can move to the new price at the end of your contract though....

BT Ireland offers the line rental bundle to everyone, new and old. To limit new price plans to new customers is daft. Unless it's a time limited promo, of course.

zuma

Blaster99 wrote:

BT Ireland offers the line rental bundle to everyone, new and old. To limit new price plans to new customers is daft. Unless it's a time limited promo, of course.

eircom appear to have no problem chargeing existing customers the full €39.99 for existing 1Mbit customers and €29.99 for new customers!

BT may not have the highest CAP anymore...but they appear to be far more customer friendly than the ultra capitalist eircom(even US ISP's drop their prices!!)!!

iluvbeer

Ok hes mailed me again to clear it up.

Customers who have completed their contract will be able to switch packages by emaililg/post/fax. My faith in Digiweb is restored.