G8 Protest

bullock

What do you think of the G8 protestors??

28064212

The ones who are causing the violence and are probably football scumbags looking for a fight? Or the ones who think they can persuade the world leaders to change by a peaceful demonstration?

Oriel

bullock, would you and your sh!itty polls ever f!ck off?

bullock

Why sinecura .... Whats your problem!!!!!


Did any of you's not check out the attachment!

joejoem

its scum bags causing the fight. There shoud be a minimum jail sentance of one year for any of them that get violent. Its the same type fúcker that spoil this country and that are being talked about in another thread!

Oriel

The next Poll starter of a spammy poll gets a 1 month ban, the next one after that gets a 2 month ban, and so fourth.

Just though I'd remind you about the charter...

bullock

This is not a spammy poll. This is a revalent topic as was on the news this morning!!

amazingemmet

atari jaguar tbh
http://www.boards.ie/wiki/index.php/Atari_Jaguar

toiletduck

Muppets!

danniemcq

I would like to take this opportunity to ask people who reply or vote in this forum to answer me one simple question. Have you ever been in one of these demonstrations??? Have you seen the inner workings of a full scale protest? Do you know the different groups of protesters that are actually at the event (and I mean by the colour not political parties). Yes I believe in the right of freedom of speech and expression but how can you form a serious opinion on the matter if you don't fully understand the situation.

BlitzKrieg

bullock wrote:

What do you think of the G8 protestors??

which ones?


go on pick one:

Thousands of anti-war, anti-globalisation and anti-capitalist demonstrators are planning to blockade the G8 summit,

the_syco

Those dressed in black, with their faces covered, promoting violence, should get the **** kicked out of them.

danniemcq

the_syco wrote:

Those dressed in black, with their faces covered, promoting violence, should get the **** kicked out of them.

In other words the black bloc.

Right the black bloc's job in an anarchist protest is to cause as much disturbance as possible by any means necessary. They will pad themselves up in any material they can find as when they meet any opposition they will attempt to get around it. Black blocs became infamous in Genoa a few years back when one black bloc protester (Carlo Giuliani) was fatally wounded when an Italian policeman shot him in the head t point blank range from the back of a land rover and then proceeded to roll over the body twice after Carlo and some others attacked the land rover in question when it comes to police lines they will force their way through using any means possible. I would like to point out that the black block is a minority of protesters and the "group" itself seems to have run its course.

It is just a shame that the media only focuses on these protesters so much and ignore the other side of the story completely (ie what happens and has happened the peaceful protesters in the past)

Lump

SEND IN THE HORSES AND DOGS - AND MEN WITH BIG STICKS!

John

toiletduck

Lump wrote:

SEND IN THE HORSES AND DOGS - AND MEN WITH BIG STICKS!

ah yes, remeber when the gardai were smacking heads when the england fans started rioting a few years back, good times...

danniemcq

Lump wrote:

SEND IN THE HORSES AND DOGS - AND MEN WITH BIG STICKS!

John

they do and this is what happens

The July 22 police raid on the headquarters of the Genoa Social Forum-- theumbrella group coordinating the protests-- and the neighboring IndependentMedia Center (IMC) received largely indifferent coverage. Reports indicatethat some 200 police officers descended on the Forum, brutally beating theactivists sleeping there in an attack that injured 61 people, with more thana dozen of the 93 people arrested carried out of the building on stretchers,some unconscious (London Guardian, 7/24/01).

Link To Full Story

do a google search and you'll find some personal accounts on the police violence.

katiegordon

it said on sky the main one 2day was cancelled or something???

toiletduck

if i was living in edinbrugh, i'd be well pi$$ed off with the protesters and wouldn't mind the police keeping order.

dlofnep

Some are protesting peacefully but then there are the ones who think that throwing chairs through windows will get the world's governments to listen. They are clowns.

danniemcq

katiegordon wrote:

it said on sky the main one 2day was cancelled or something???

police have cancelled the "official" protest. this isn't gonna change the protesters minds as if anyone remembers dublin mayday 2 years ago the main grassroots protest was cancelled by the gardai yet the march went ahead with roughly 5000 people involved.

Sky Story Here

bullock

You's do know that I wrote this thread as a light hearted joke making reference to the picture with Ted and Doughal. I didn't want anyone to get so upset by it!!!

BlitzKrieg

...your timing is awful...

danniemcq

BlitzKrieg wrote:

...your timing is awful...

agreed

Cojofl

A mix of respectable people, muppets and hippies. Much like most other things in life

catholicireland

ah yes, remeber when the gardai were smacking heads when the england fans started rioting a few years back, good times...

Happy days!

Mossy Monk

there are the protestors and the hippies

then there are the scumbags only there to throw stuff and break windows

catholicireland

there are the protestors and the hippies

then there are the scumbags only there to throw stuff and break windows

Hippies > Scumbags, i dont really see the difference

Lump

danniemcq wrote:

they do and this is what happens

The July 22 police raid on the headquarters of the Genoa Social Forum-- theumbrella group coordinating the protests-- and the neighboring IndependentMedia Center (IMC) received largely indifferent coverage. Reports indicatethat some 200 police officers descended on the Forum, brutally beating theactivists sleeping there in an attack that injured 61 people, with more thana dozen of the 93 people arrested carried out of the building on stretchers,some unconscious (London Guardian, 7/24/01).

Link To Full Story

do a google search and you'll find some personal accounts on the police violence.

I said release the Horses and Big sticks, not live ammunition. If you're going to throw bricks at police. You deserve to be beat down on. TAKE IT PROTESTORS!

John

secret_squirrel

danniemcq wrote:

In other words the black bloc.
..................SNIP..........................................
It is just a shame that the media only focuses on these protesters so much and ignore the other side of the story completely (ie what happens and has happened the peaceful protesters in the past)

You can hardly expect the media to dwell on the odd peacenik getting a beating when there's great footage of the black bloc getting the bejesus beaten out of them can you now?

Anyone who diliberately trys to provoke the police deserves the kicking tbh, or if the police are armed then they obviously knew the risks they were taking on and still went ahead.

As far as the black bloc go - they are just ruining the protest for ordinary decent protestors who may have genuine greivances - not just a bunch of nutters looking for a ruck. Personally I think shooting is too good for the black bloc.

Geiger

The people who are there to protest are fine and the people who are there to riot are scum. They deserve whatever punishment the police can dish out.

danniemcq

Lump wrote:

I said release the Horses and Big sticks, not live ammunition. If you're going to throw bricks at police. You deserve to be beat down on. TAKE IT PROTESTORS!

John

ummm i think you may notice that the ones throwing the bricks at Genoa weren't the ones gettin the S**T beaten outta them by the italien police. they were sleeping in a media area and i think if you delve deeper into tje story you will find eyewitness accounts of extreme police brutality

this is NOT a direct quote as i onl;y have limited time on the net right now but i remember one account describing "blood on the ceilings" now i do believe that that is uncalled for

Guy:Incognito

danniemcq wrote:

ummm i think you may notice that the ones throwing the bricks at Genoa weren't the ones gettin the S**T beaten outta them by the italien police. they were sleeping in a media area and i think if you delve deeper into tje story you will find eyewitness accounts of extreme police brutality

this is NOT a direct quote as i onl;y have limited time on the net right now but i remember one account describing "blood on the ceilings" now i do believe that that is uncalled for

Forget about Genoa and reply to a question about TODAY. there was rolling footage of A Burger King getting smashed to bits by theses guys. What about the guy walking down the street with a pole, smashing car windows? Im sure you'd appreciate he's doing it for his cause if that was your car or if you owned the burger king.

Geiger

danniemcq wrote:

ummm i think you may notice that the ones throwing the bricks at Genoa weren't the ones gettin the S**T beaten outta them by the italien police. they were sleeping in a media area and i think if you delve deeper into tje story you will find eyewitness accounts of extreme police brutality

this is NOT a direct quote as i onl;y have limited time on the net right now but i remember one account describing "blood on the ceilings" now i do believe that that is uncalled for

You won't find many people here who agree with the police attacking innocent protestors.

What do you think of the violent protestors in Edinburgh?

Redleslie2

They can tip over as many bins and benches as they like. I don't understand why people get more upset about that than they do about environmental destruction, sweatshops, child labour, arms sales, AIDS, lack of clean water and the bloodbaths in Iraq and Chechnya. That's what I call violence and those responsible should be rounded up and shot, starting with the G8 leaders.

For that reason, anarchists are cool and yuppies and liberals are scum.

Guy:Incognito

Redleslie2 wrote:

They can tip over as many bins and benches as they like. I don't understand why people get more upset about that than they do about environmental destruction, sweatshops, child labour, arms sales, AIDS, lack of clean water and the bloodbaths in Iraq and Chechnya. That's what I call violence and those responsible should be rounded up and shot, starting with the G8 leaders.

For that reason, anarchists are cool and yuppies and liberals are scum.

So the best way to highlight the plight is by smashing stuff up and costing government millions by having to have several police forces on permenant overtime?
If these people ar e so concerned, why arent they over in Africa helping themselves, of is it too uncomfortable and dangerous to stand up to the dictators and armed gangs who have plenty of money in africa, in person. Cos I guarentee that if they actually got off their arses and went to africa, at the first sign of trouble they hightail it off to the embassy of the first friendly nation looking for help and wouldnt turn down a platoon of US marines if they offered help.

I'm sure these same people also step over homeless people in their own countries when going about their daily business.

Geiger

Yes, the best way to highlight the plight of a third world country is to throw a brick at a policeman.

I wonder what these 'protestors' would do if someone threw a brick at their dad? They'd probably join in cause it's mob mentality. Losers.

Not all protestors are the same and the one's who can make their presance felt without violence have my support.

county

sumbags,shoot the lot of them!!

Lump

Yea, gorget about Genoa. Everyone knows the Italians are crazy mo-fo's any way. I was talking about the people throwing bricks yesterday etc and the ones who got up at 4 am to cause trouble.

John

dSTAR

What did Genoa achieve? It left some Italian anarchist lying dead in the streets with flowers around him.

Flowers for the rebels who failed

The reason anarchism will NEVER work is because anarchists CANNOT organise themselves and in every society or system you NEED organisation.

Years ago I was behind the opening of an anarchist bookstore called "The Garden of Delight". It failed because the people behind it could not even get their sh*t together to open the cafe at lunch time and allowed people claiming to anarchists to walk out of the bookstore without paying for books.

It taught me a lot about anarchism and anarchists. Needless to say I have swung the other way and would describe my politics as right wing capitalist. I will NOT let any little tosser tell me about the world and get in my way of earning $$$.

Now I can appreciate that the police are there to protect my right to wealth / consumption and rejoice in watching these self styles defenders of the earth getting their skulls cracked if they dare to challenge this New World Order!

:cool:

pred racer

Does anyone believe that any of the G8 leaders give 2 sh1ts what is going on outside of the window during these summits??

I believe they dont, wondering what everybody else thinks?

Lump

You make an Idiotic statment. Of course they do. But the point of Terrorism is to disrupt people, and cause as much problems with every day life. If they were to cancel the G8 talks, what's the benefit of that? Tony blair came to london last night. ALl the other leaders have stayed there.... what would the point of them going back to russia/america/germany etc be?

John

astrofool

that's the Irish way! Like september 11th was designed to affect world markets, and we Irish respond by taking a day off work.... thats how the terrorists 'win'

secret_squirrel

pred racer wrote:

Does anyone believe that any of the G8 leaders give 2 sh1ts what is going on outside of the window during these summits??

They give 2 shíts about getting elected again. Therefore any organised protest that may effect their chances of that - they will care about. Mindless anarchist violence? I would guess 99% of the world dont give 2 shíts about it and them.