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"This is the greatest thing that's ever been organised probably in the history..."

  • 04-07-2005 3:28pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,382 ✭✭✭✭


    From Live8 -

    Chris Martin from Coldplay said: "This is the greatest thing that's ever been organised probably in the history of the world."

    Is it just me, or is this shockingly egotistical?

    Claiming a group of singers getting together (him included) is the best thing ever organised in the history of the world, sounds to me like he thinks they're very very very very very important people, much more important than any group of people in the history of the world.

    Or maybe I'm misunderstanding.

    I really don't believe he was 100% referring to getting attention on Africa.


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,424 ✭✭✭joejoem


    A mixture of hype and pride I would say


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,800 ✭✭✭county


    yes stuck up there own backsides,the live aid 20 years ago was 10 times better


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    World War 2 took a lot more effort.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,641 ✭✭✭andyman


    Probably Live 8


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,301 ✭✭✭airetam_storm


    Sarky wrote:
    World War 2 took a lot more effort.
    LOL, ithink??


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,440 ✭✭✭✭Piste


    The rise of the Roman Empire was much better and influential imho.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,367 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    Them Mongol fellas didnt do too badly on their horsies either...
    :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,424 ✭✭✭joejoem


    county wrote:
    yes stuck up there own backsides,the live aid 20 years ago was 10 times better


    yes your right, they shouldnt have done anything, why did they even bother? :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    Falling sales, obviously.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,331 ✭✭✭Keyzer


    Operation Overload aka The Allied Invasion of Normandy was the greatest organised "thing" the world has ever seen, imo...

    Mr. Martin should go back to teaching geography lessons in my opinion...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,279 ✭✭✭RobertFoster


    Keyzer wrote:
    Operation Overload aka The Allied Invasion of Normandy was the greatest organised "thing" the world has ever seen, imo...

    Mr. Martin should go back to teaching geography lessons in my opinion...
    Overlord, not Overload.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,764 ✭✭✭shay_562


    Yes, I'm sure Coldplay (whose last single became the most downloaded track ever, and whose latest album is one of the most successful UK acts ever on the US charts) are really worried about falling sales. :rolleyes:

    Alright, so Chris Martin's an arrogant tosspot, as is Bob Geldof. Doesn't change the fact that they're trying to do something to help people (which is more than most celebrities do), and while comments like this don't exctly help, I think they get a lot more stick than they deserve.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    Coldplay could have just forked over some cash instead of making us all suffer and actually performing.

    Assuming they performed. I didn't watch, so I couldn't say.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,688 ✭✭✭grimloch


    As quoted:

    "The greatest thing ever organised ever apparently. The UN, the invasion of Normandy, the eradication of polio, the Magna Carta, all pale into comparison when set against a rock concert"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,417 ✭✭✭Miguel_Sanchez


    Remember that thing they used to have in the old musicals where all the girls in swimsuits would be along the side of a big pool and they'd dive into the water one after another so it would look like a kind of wave or ripple effect?

    I think that was the greatest thing organised ever.

    That or the day everyone in the world ignored Louis Walsh and wouldn't talk to him at all. (whaddya mean I dreamt it?)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,513 ✭✭✭BrianD3


    Maybe Martin was a bit off with the comments, but does it really matter. As someone said, it was probably down to a mixture of hype and pride and the fact that it was massive live event with upwards of 1 billion people watching. It would be easy to get caught up in the hugeness of the whole thing and say something on the spur of the moiment which may not be 100% correct. It's very easy after the event for a bunch of geeks on the internet to start picking holes in what he said by listing out all the "things" that were better than Live 8 :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,688 ✭✭✭grimloch


    BrianD3 wrote:
    Maybe Martin was a bit off with the comments, but does it really matter. As someone said, it was probably down to a mixture of hype and pride and the fact that it was massive live event with upwards of 1 billion people watching. It would be easy to get caught up in the hugeness of the whole thing and say something on the spur of the moiment which may not be 100% correct. It's very easy after the event for a bunch of geeks on the internet to start picking holes in what he said by listing out all the "things" that were better than Live 8 :rolleyes:

    You're probably right, he might have really been caught in the moment and just blurted it out. Not really a huge deal but not the brightest comment known to man.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,548 ✭✭✭Draupnir


    i think the point you are missing here lads, is what martin is talking about. not that all those singers are together, but the fact that in pretty much every nation in the world, people came together in their billions to achieve, or attempt to support, a common goal, to help their fellow human being.

    World War II, the d-day landings etc. while marvels of military ability, were only instruments of murder and destruction which could never be considered a great achievement of the human race.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 9,586 Mod ✭✭✭✭BossArky


    Cut the coldplay fellow some slack, I doubt he meant the comment as the way some of you are interrupting it.... he just lost the run of himself. Fairplay to him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Chris Martin's a prententious prat tbh.

    At best it's the biggest music event that's ever been organised, so far.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    seamus wrote:

    At best it's the biggest music event that's ever been organised, so far.

    Nah, that was Self-Aid shirley?

    Mike.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭vibe666


    to me it stinks of a lot of exceedingly rich people getting people like us to give up our hard earned cash to make them feel better about everything they have.

    you don't see any of them giving up too much to help the poor aside from a few hours on stage doing what made them rich in the first place.

    how about all the pop stars that performed auction off 50% of their wealth and give it towards aid for africa? no, okay, well lets all us normal poeple pay to see them play songs instead.

    pretentious bunch of twats if you ask me.

    i'm sure bob had a lot of good intentions but the hypocracy of it all taints it for me i'm afraid.

    i wouldn't like to even guess how high the % was of people who went there just to see some of their favourite bands perform rather than influence the G8 summit.

    i think i'll go book my seats for the next one in 20 years time. do you think ticketmaster have them on sale yet?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,880 ✭✭✭Raphael


    Um...afaik tickets for this weren't sold, they were given out in a draw or some such


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,331 ✭✭✭Keyzer


    Overlord, not Overload.

    Noted. a type on my part...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,742 ✭✭✭Branoic


    Draupnir wrote:
    i think the point you are missing here lads, is what martin is talking about. not that all those singers are together, but the fact that in pretty much every nation in the world, people came together in their billions to achieve, or attempt to support, a common goal, to help their fellow human being.

    World War II, the d-day landings etc. while marvels of military ability, were only instruments of murder and destruction which could never be considered a great achievement of the human race.

    I totally agree with this. The pointless backlash posts against Chris Martin's comment is narrow, narrow, narrow.

    Its not about the concerts or the singers, it never was. The concerts were just a tool. Its about millions of people the world over coming together in unison with one voice during one truely global event. I gotta say that when they got everyone to click in unison in the different venues around the world, to go along with that whole clicking "every three seconds a child dies" campaign, was really quite a powerful show of unity.

    Get over the paddy-esque cynicism and begrudgery and accept his comment in the spirit with which it was offerred.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,742 ✭✭✭Branoic


    vibe666 wrote:
    to me it stinks of a lot of exceedingly rich people getting people like us to give up our hard earned cash to make them feel better about everything they have.

    you don't see any of them giving up too much to help the poor aside from a few hours on stage doing what made them rich in the first place.

    how about all the pop stars that performed auction off 50% of their wealth and give it towards aid for africa? no, okay, well lets all us normal poeple pay to see them play songs instead.

    pretentious bunch of twats if you ask me.

    i'm sure bob had a lot of good intentions but the hypocracy of it all taints it for me i'm afraid.

    i wouldn't like to even guess how high the % was of people who went there just to see some of their favourite bands perform rather than influence the G8 summit.

    i think i'll go book my seats for the next one in 20 years time. do you think ticketmaster have them on sale yet?

    Fool.

    You obviously didn't pay any attention to what was going on. Actually, I'm quite impressed by this, as with the media saturation of the event I'm suprised some of the basic facts failed to saturate through your skull.

    (A) The event was free. Nobody paid to hear the songs

    (B) The whole point of Live 8 was not to raise more aid. Aid is next to useless unless other changes are made first. This is the lesson of Live Aid 20 years ago. Alot of the cash and supplies raised in that event ended up lining the pockets or corrupt politicians and dictators. If every rock star in the world gave every cent from every record they make in the next 10 years, this would still be a problem. Live 8 was instead about raising awareness and trying to get the G8 leaders to radically change how we deal with Africa, not simply about pouring more money down the drain.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,307 ✭✭✭ionapaul


    Wouldn't it only be 'the greatest thing in the history of the universe' if it actually affects measurable change in Africa, and surely we can only judge that a few decades down the line? A billion people came together to watch a free concert, some actually spared a thought for the Africa question, but the crucial questions are: did the G8 leaders listen? Undoubtably. Will they make some changes to try to alleviate Africa's difficulties (or at least massage public opinion in their own countries)? Probably. Will Africa be in better shape for all its peoples in 20 years? The answer to that question will allow us to judge the Live8 event / campaign in years to come.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,643 ✭✭✭magpie


    Chris Martin is a 'Knobhead Student', as any fule kno.

    One of the funniest things I saw in relation to this was that bloke Russell on MTV calling Bob Geldof 'Gandalf' and saying that in his opinion it wasn't an exercise in ego massage for BG, for if he wanted to feel good about himself he could do something far easier, like comb his hair. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 594 ✭✭✭Tanabe


    @ DublinDude:

    You need 2 get a life for even starting a thread like this. Live 8 was for charity, Chris Martin was performing at this event & was most likely excited to have been the second act to perform. Why have u taken his comment to heart? Surely you have said things in your time caught up in the excitement of it all?? Give the guy a break, he was HELPING after all.

    All you peeps posting ur negative comments hang ur heads in shame! :eek:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,643 ✭✭✭magpie


    When these do-gooder musos actually empty their own pockets rather than 'generously' going on stage to receive the adulation they crave, all in the name of Charideeee, then I'll believe their motives are pure.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 594 ✭✭✭Tanabe


    @ Magpie

    Plz read Branoc's comment above......& then SHUT UP!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,132 ✭✭✭Dinner


    No doubt the concerts were great and all, but to call 8 rock concerts the greatest thing ever is a bit over blown. There are far greater things such as the space program, cures for illnesses etc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,643 ✭✭✭magpie


    Oh of course. Its about raising awareness. How much more nebulous a concept can you get?

    The irony of Bono simultaneously urging the G8 nations to drop multi-billion dollar debts while sueing his ex-stylist over $5000 worth of old tat is clearly lost on you.

    This whole thing is an exercise in po-faced self-righteousness. Maybe if they used the concerts to raise money then use it to pay off part of the 3rd world debt rather than handing it to the corrupt regimes that run Africa at gun point like last time that might be a step in the right direction.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 594 ✭✭✭Tanabe


    WHY do you KEEP posting the same DRIBBLE that has already been said earlier? READ the ANSWERS given before you decide to give ur tuppence worth!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,880 ✭✭✭Raphael


    That would be ironic, if it weren't for the fact that you're wrong

    Bono is suing the stylist for memoribilia(sp?) to the value of $5,000. It's the not the money that he wants, it's his freakin pants!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,012 ✭✭✭BizzyC


    In terms of chartity etc. I'd say that the relief effort following the tsunami was more impressive.

    I think that these bands are quite full of themselves now. Only a few of those who performed can boast proper charity work; Bono, Bob, Robbie Williams to name a few.

    Bono and Bob have done a lot to raise money and awarness, whereas most of them will return home, all warm and fuzzy cause they did what they could. Bullsh7t.
    They gave up an hour or two of their time. Madonna was interviewed after, and it was obvious she really didn't know any of the facts or issues involved.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,643 ✭✭✭magpie


    That would be ironic, if it weren't for the fact that you're wrong

    Bono is suing the stylist for memoribilia(sp?) to the value of $5,000. It's the not the money that he wants, it's his freakin pants!

    Like I said:
    $5000 worth of old tat

    Your point is what exactly?
    They gave up an hour or two of their time

    Exactly, and got to promote their product to an enormous audience throughout the world on primetime TV.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 594 ✭✭✭Tanabe


    Yawn!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,012 ✭✭✭BizzyC


    Yeah,

    "hey lets save africa!...........This is our new songs, it's out next week."


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,880 ✭✭✭Raphael


    My point is there's no irony. How would you feel if you had something that was worth $5000 and someone stole it from you? You'd want it back. In addition to which, there is quite probably sentimental value atttached to that "old tat", since it's stuff he wore on a gig.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,012 ✭✭✭BizzyC


    @ Tanabe

    Rather than make pointless comments on everyone else's posts, how about you make an actual usefull point yourself and stop acting like a 15 y/o.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,742 ✭✭✭Branoic


    magpie wrote:
    Maybe if they used the concerts to raise money then use it to pay off part of the 3rd world debt rather than handing it to the corrupt regimes that run Africa at gun point like last time that might be a step in the right direction.

    Oh please, now you're just being stupid.

    Yes. The answer really would be to hold a series of simultaneous concerts combined with a telathone, raise millions and millions of euro in donations, and then GIVE THE MONEY TO UNITED STATES AND BRITAIN to pay off 3rd world debt?????

    Are you serious?

    Yes, I can see that no one would write pointless moany complain posts about an event like that!! I for one would gladly donate to the US cause.

    Thats a MUCH better idea than simply wiping the debt.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,643 ✭✭✭magpie


    How would you feel if you had something that was worth $5000 and someone stole it from you? You'd want it back. In addition to which, there is quite probably sentimental value atttached to that "old tat", since it's stuff he wore on a gig.

    It was mugs, t-shirts, trousers and other bits and pieces given by U2 to their stylist. They had no problem with her having it, they got thick when she put it for sale on ebay.

    I think Bono has enough pairs of tiny pants to last him, don't you?

    Its just Mr Righteous stopping someone from making a few quid by demanding the return of the items, which doubtless he will throw straight in the bin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,790 ✭✭✭cornbb


    At least they're helping!

    Many of the acts that performed charity have pleged to donate the royalties from the increased album sales that Live8 resulted in to charity. Dave Gilmour from Pink Floyd recently sold his london home for £3m and donated the entire proceeds to charity.

    And thats all beside the point really, as the gigs were meant to raise awareness.

    I still think Chris Martin is a douce though :cool:


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