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Sligo v Kildare

  • 02-07-2005 8:27pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 231 ✭✭


    Congratulations to Sligo, very close and very tough game.

    I have to say though, 20 seconds in and Eamon O' Hara stretchered off, followed by 3 of his team mates. It seems very suspicious that not one kildare man got a card for any of the incidents.

    The ref was fairly inconsistent but for both sides, seemed to be giving very easy frees to kildare especially in the first half and i don't even know how many yellows for Sligo. I'm not complaining about the yellows we got simply that Kildare deserved a lot more.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,001 ✭✭✭✭Flukey


    From what I heard on radio, it sounded quite good. A good win for Sligo and a repeat of their win over Kildare in Croke Park a few years ago.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 500 ✭✭✭hawker


    McClane wrote:
    Congratulations to Sligo, very close and very tough game.

    I have to say though, 20 seconds in and Eamon O' Hara stretchered off, followed by 3 of his team mates. It seems very suspicious that not one kildare man got a card for any of the incidents.

    The ref was fairly inconsistent but for both sides, seemed to be giving very easy frees to kildare especially in the first half and i don't even know how many yellows for Sligo. I'm not complaining about the yellows we got simply that Kildare deserved a lot more.

    Well done to Sligo on Saturday's victory however I must take issue with your comments.

    In no way was any Kildare man at fault for the Eamonn O'Hara or or any of his team mates incident. O'Hara twisted his knee and another man pulled his hamstring (one other was a back problem). How can one blame a Kildare man for those injuries?

    I cannot believe that you considered the referee to be biased towards Kildare. I think the referee could have sent off at least one Sligo man (No 11) for consistents fouling. Every time Kildare attacked through the middle they were dragged down every time. The most consistent offender was the No 11. The referee choose the ignore.

    Dermot Earley was lording it at midfield and Sligo deployed a man marker on him early in the second half....which worked. But illegally. On Kildare's kickout they opened up the middle for Earley to run onto the kickout. However he was prevented from doing do by this man marker by constant jerseying pulling which the referee and linesmen didn't choose not to notice.

    The game hinged on a decision by the linesman just prior to the Sligo goal. He choose to give a line ball to Sligo when it was clearly a Kildare ball. A terrible decision by a very biased linesman. More on that later.

    Every time Dermot Earley caught a ball in the first half he was punched and slapped and jumped upon. More times then not the ref choose to ignore this blatant fouling.

    I cannot believe any Sligo person can feel hard done by in this particular game. I am in no way a ref basher but Highes' performance angered me. This game was not a football game, it was Tribal Warfare. Any football that was played was played by Kildare. Sligo took advantage of the Ulster referee which worked a treat.

    All in all this was a terrible game of football. Sligo hit Kildare hard and Corrigan had his homework done with regards to the ref. If I was perfectly honest, I would say both teams are two poor sides. Best of luck to Sligo next day.

    Regarding the linesman mentioned above. Was he the Sligoman or was it the fellow in the terrace side??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 231 ✭✭McClane


    In no way was any Kildare man at fault for the Eamonn O'Hara or or any of his team mates incident. O'Hara twisted his knee and another man pulled his hamstring (one other was a back problem). How can one blame a Kildare man for those injuries?

    Notice i didn't say any Kildare man was at fault for any of the people taken out on stretchers, i didn't say any were because i honestly didn't see. I said i found it incredible that no Kildare man was carded for any of those incidents. How many matches do you see 3 people on the same team being stretchered off and not a single card being shown ? Granted maybe they didn't do anything wrong but i see soe dirty challenges and off-the-ball challenges as well so i doubt that 3 guys just fell akwardly and had to be stretchered.
    I cannot believe that you considered the referee to be biased towards Kildare. I think the referee could have sent off at least one Sligo man (No 11) for consistents fouling. Every time Kildare attacked through the middle they were dragged down every time. The most consistent offender was the No 11. The referee choose the ignore.

    Everytime the ref turned his back when ye were behind the 2 kildare full forwards were throwing elbows, kicks & everything else. If the linesmen were any ways decent they would have reported that to the ref but they didn't.
    The game hinged on a decision by the linesman just prior to the Sligo goal. He choose to give a line ball to Sligo when it was clearly a Kildare ball. A terrible decision by a very biased linesman. More on that later.

    What are you talking about ?? I was standing right at the fence where that ball went out and it was definately a Sligo ball. No doubt about it at all.
    Every time Dermot Earley caught a ball in the first half he was punched and slapped and jumped upon. More times then not the ref choose to ignore this blatant fouling.

    And i seen more then a red cards share of fouling from a lot of kildare players. As i said i'm not complainig that Sligo got so many yellows, just tat Kildare got so few and whoever ye had in right corner forward deserved a red card for constant off-the-ball challenges. He was bloody filthy especially in the second half.
    Sligo hit Kildare hard

    We lost our best and second best players in a relatively short period of time. O'Hara after just 20-30 seconds, it was Kildare who were hitting hard and using the ref to their advantage. there were several players tha deserved red on both teams but Kildare most defnately deserved them first. As well as the constant fouling, several frees were giving for Kildare men jumping to the ground.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 500 ✭✭✭hawker


    Of course you are going to disagree with me regarding everything I said. Thats only natural.

    You are joking about the Kildare forwards throwing elbows. The Sligo corner backs were trying to rough up two of kildare's main threats namely Doyle and Fennin. You obviously didn't catch the initial kidney punches and general niggling.

    I was right behind where that ball was also and am in no doubt that it was a Kildare ball. It's bad when you cannot even admit that.

    Sligo did not try and play football at all. It was synical fouling for the whole game and they weren't punished by the ref. Three or four of your players were at it the whole time. I wouldn't mind but you don't have to do it because you bet Kildare in 2001 by playing brilliant football.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 231 ✭✭McClane


    You are joking about the Kildare forwards throwing elbows. The Sligo corner backs were trying to rough up two of kildare's main threats namely Doyle and Fennin. You obviously didn't catch the initial kidney punches and general niggling.

    Perhaps you didn't catch 3 people going off on stretchers and 1 walking off from an injury. Did tey all injure themselves ? Seems suspicious how Eamon our best player was injured in the first 30 seconds of the game doesn't it ?

    I'm not joking at all. Especially at the end the Kildare forwards (especially the right corner forward) was throwing elbows, kicks and everything else while the ref'sback was turned.

    There was no dirty play from the Kildare men when ye were in the lead though.
    I was right behind where that ball was also and am in no doubt that it was a Kildare ball. It's bad when you cannot even admit that.

    What do you mean behind ? You must have been sitting right next to me so! I was with a girl wearing a Tipperary dark blue jacket. I was right next to were that ball crossed the line and there is no doubt it was a Sligo ball at all.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 500 ✭✭✭hawker


    McClane wrote:
    Perhaps you didn't catch 3 people going off on stretchers and 1 walking off from an injury. Did tey all injure themselves ? Seems suspicious how Eamon our best player was injured in the first 30 seconds of the game doesn't it ?

    I'm not joking at all. Especially at the end the Kildare forwards (especially the right corner forward) was throwing elbows, kicks and everything else while the ref'sback was turned.

    There was no dirty play from the Kildare men when ye were in the lead though.



    What do you mean behind ? You must have been sitting right next to me so! I was with a girl wearing a Tipperary dark blue jacket. I was right next to were that ball crossed the line and there is no doubt it was a Sligo ball at all.

    So you are saying Kildare were dirty and injured the three Sligo who were carried off despite the fact that one was a twisted knee and one of the others a hamstring!!

    Yep you are a Sligo man ok!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 231 ✭✭McClane


    So you are saying Kildare were dirty and injured the three Sligo who were carried off despite the fact that one was a twisted knee and one of the others a hamstring!!

    I'm saying Kildare were absolutely filthy yes but i'm not saying they were responsible for any of the stretchered players since i didn't see what happened but i find it surprising that 3 inter-county players "injured theselves" and required a stretcher especially since 2 of those players are our best and were injured in the first minute of the game.

    Now when i say Kildare were filthy i'm not denying the fact we were very dirty too but Kildare started out filthy, sligo progressed into it. By the way i didn't see you repute the Kildare men diving for frees nor the sligo ball incident so i take it i'm correct on both counts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 974 ✭✭✭MooShop


    McClane wrote:
    Seems suspicious how Eamon our best player was injured in the first 30 seconds of the game doesn't it ?

    firstly i have to say i am a sligo man but i wasnt at the match, however i did see the highlights of the game. if you actually watched the highlights mcClane you would have seen that no kildare player was at fault for Eamonn's injury he jumped for the throw in and landed awkwardly and twisted his knee.

    i reckon the game was rough because of the history of the two sides in the league and the championship where sligo beat kildare. sligo won on the day, kildare could have won but didnt keep their composure. sligo aren't even a shadow of the team that had them magnificent championship runs and will need serious re-building of the football structure from underage level right through to senior level.

    thats my opinion anyway, i dont understand people's bitterness especially when your team won. its over and done with, the decisions that were made on the day cannot be reversed so that should be the end of it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 231 ✭✭McClane


    firstly i have to say i am a sligo man but i wasnt at the match, however i did see the highlights of the game. if you actually watched the highlights mcClane you would have seen that no kildare player was at fault for Eamonn's injury he jumped for the throw in and landed awkwardly and twisted his knee.

    I didn't say a Kildare man injured him as i didn't see what happened and i didn't see the highlights, i was talking about the amount of players stretchered off being suspicious.

    Thanks for informing us of that though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 974 ✭✭✭MooShop


    oh ok sorry if i took you up wrong, was just giving my view on the game, looking forward to the next game


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 500 ✭✭✭hawker


    Obviously we are going to conflicting views on it.

    Do any of you think that maybe the ref, being from Ulster, was more inclined to let more of the physical stuff go? I really believe that both sides went into this game with a more physical attitude knowing that the ref would be inclined to let it go.

    One wonders if another ref (not being from Ulster) was reffing would it have been a different game altogether. Kildare and Sligo are not known for being physical but having an Ulster ref seems to prompt teams to harden it up a bit.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,396 ✭✭✭✭kaimera


    :) kildare lost

    and offaly hurlers lost aswell :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 500 ✭✭✭hawker


    kaimera wrote:
    :) kildare lost

    and offaly hurlers lost aswell :)

    Thats correct. Are all laois people as sharp as you? You can also check out all the other results on the gaa website.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 231 ✭✭McClane


    To be honest Hawker it was pathetic football from both sides. Not anywhere near inter-county standard. Did you see the marking near the end ? I don't think there was a single man in position barr the goalkeepers. And it seemed that both teams had an extra man in defence for a good few minutes. Very bad football.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,396 ✭✭✭✭kaimera


    hawker wrote:
    Thats correct. Are all laois people as sharp as you? You can also check out all the other results on the gaa website.

    Yes. We're a county full of thumb_tacks :rolleyes:

    and they were the only two results that mattered tbqh :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,474 ✭✭✭YeatsCounty


    I'm delighted that Sligo won, we've regained pride in the Sligo jersey again and it's about time too. Commiserations to Kildare, you must be sick of the sight of Sligo by now (well, in the National league anyway)! Seriously though, if the game was a bit niggly, it was probably due to the League matches between those two counties a few years ago, when we protested against Kildare substitutions (the sixth man, remember?) two years in a row!

    Now, I don't think that any sane Sligoman can say that we'll win Sam this year (or ever, if history is any factor!). The team is rebuilding, we've regained heart, we've regained our legendary courage, we've regained our pride. Now we have to keep on going, we have to beat Clare and we have to carry this form into the Connaught Championship next year.

    With all the turmoil that's gone on behind the scenes in Sligo football over the last 18 months, the mere fact that we're still playing football in july is a minor miracle. Sure, we're not the strongest county out there, but as long as the team keeps on playing as they have been this season (admittedly, in patches) and as long as the fans keep the faith, we can do something big within the next few years.

    Sligo, Connaught Champions 20-something, heh. :)


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