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Web Developer required.

  • 30-06-2005 2:24pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 87 ✭✭


    We're a small Web Development company based in Blanchardstown (Nexus451 Ltd.), Keypoint Business Park, due to recent expansion, we are looking for an additional PHP / MySQL Developer.

    The ideal candidate would be either a recent graduate or another person with PHP / MySQL experience. As it is development for the web, a reasonable level of HTML and some basic javascript is necessary. A basic knowledge of Linux/Apache would also be useful, and any other skills are advantageous, such as ASP and SQL Server, but not required at present.

    It is a full time position, so if any of you fit the profile or know of someone who does, please PM me for more details or mail your CV to jobs@Nexus451.com.

    (Please state in subject that it is the PHP job, as we have alternative positions we're trying to fill also)


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,819 ✭✭✭K!LL!@N


    I hope there's no objection to my bumping this thread but this is a really good oppurtuinity for someone just coming out of college or for someone with a bit of experience in web development.

    I've been working here since last November when the company was initially looking for extra staff.

    We're a 20-25 minute bus journey from the city centre on the 40D, which leaves from Parnell Street and stops at the front gate of the business park.
    We're just around the corner from the National Aquatic Centre and close enough to the Blanchardstown shopping centre.

    Killian


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,749 ✭✭✭✭wes


    This sounds very interesting actually, will fire off an email to get a job spec.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 87 ✭✭posiedon


    That's grand Wes, just put a subject in referring to the position.
    Makes it easier to spot through the spam, if you know what I mean.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,749 ✭✭✭✭wes


    Just a quick question, i don't actually know PHP (i was planning on learning it over the next couple of weeks along with some other languages), but i do know C, and shell scripting (in Bash mostly) which has similar syntax and have done JSP, JSTL which do a lot what PHP can do.

    Are you looking for someone who has programmed in PHP before? I reckon it wouldn't take me too long to learn PHP as its mostly some new syntax.

    I sent a CV and cover letter in anyways.

    Ok recieved a reply which answered all my questions.

    Thanks.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 13,018 ✭✭✭✭jank


    What kind of starting salary would one be looking at!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 87 ✭✭posiedon


    It would depend on experience.
    The going rate would be a good indication.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 13,018 ✭✭✭✭jank


    How about someone with graduate experience (ie very little)

    25k??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 87 ✭✭posiedon


    Jank, as per the previous post.

    A salary would depend on the applicant, for a start you would need to prove that you were better than any of the other aplicants, and a worthy addition to the company. A salary wiould be negotiable, and will not be negotiated on a Public Forum.

    With no experience (17-22K).


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 13,018 ✭✭✭✭jank


    Well as your attiude portrayed via a private message to me seems that there is no way id work for a company like that where valid questions are just dodged by "nice words"!
    Stop asking stupid questions

    Quite frankly Jank, you need not apply, as your interest does not appear to be about having / doing a good job, but is more about the pay packet.

    Who ever we decide on, will be remunerated well, and we are and always have been very good to our staff.

    With such an insight too into my character and my ability in going a "good" job that i must question why you are dodgeing the question so much.

    Most jobs applications do show the whole package so i have to wonder why you are so reluctant to give out even a ball part figure.

    This is a public forum where people will ask questions.

    May I point you to the charter?
    -any renumeration package (even if its just reference)

    I asked because I was curious what a web devleoper with little experience would get, and I have no clue what the going rate is the, same as many others hence my "25k?"


    Oh and it might surprise you that I actually have a job with a huge mulitnational company( although not directly in the line of work that im qualified in ).

    Maybe your company should look to hiring HR staff with more "insight" into peoples character and what they percive is important to them in "doing a good job" :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,145 ✭✭✭DonkeyStyle \o/


    Well it serves you right, you're obviously only working for the money.
    Personally, I work to keep the dream alive and bring smiles to the faces of those around me.
    I'd work for free if only they'd let me... stupid labour laws :/


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 87 ✭✭posiedon


    jank wrote:
    Oh and it might surprise you that I actually have a job with a huge mulitnational company( although not directly in the line of work that im qualified in ).

    That really does not surprise me at all.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 13,018 ✭✭✭✭jank


    posiedon wrote:
    That really does not surprise me at all.

    Ah but see im still a full time post graduate student and will be for some time yet, hence my disadvantge in getting a full time work.
    Although the work im doing at the moment will definately be a worthwhile addition to my CV.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,099 ✭✭✭✭WhiteWashMan


    give it a rest kids.

    jank, if youre not interested, then let it go for the love of god. and stop posting peoples pm's on the boards.im sure ive seen you whinge about the privacy of pms before.

    posiedon, at some stage you will have to give out details if you want to attract people to come and work for you. its up to you, but remember, this is a public forum, and you dont not have the right to control what questions are asked of you, or what answers are deemed satisfactory.
    if you feel someone is not suitable, then just say it, politely and firmly.


    you know, like, jank, shag off.
    see, easy :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,099 ✭✭✭✭WhiteWashMan


    jank wrote:

    May I point you to the charter?

    -any renumeration package (even if its just reference)


    AH!

    did i write that?

    im sure i know better to spell it remuneration!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 13,018 ✭✭✭✭jank


    It was a straight copy and paste job WWM :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,244 ✭✭✭drdre


    jank just cop on and leave posiedon alon.he is looking for someone who is good at work unlike you that is just a starter in the industry and all you care about is money. life works both ways you have to work hard to earn good money.

    this is my own opinion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,644 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    What WWM said, although, I do have my own opinion on this which is more long-winded and rambling in nature but, I'm going to inflict it on all of you. Because I can! :)

    Poisedon, you do really have to give a salary range, ie 15-20K, 20ishK, whatever. As a person in business I would expect any employer looking to hire people to at least give some vague indication as to pay. Even a 15K+ or a minimum of 20K with more for suitably qualified applicants would be fine. A minimum ballpark figure is what is needed here. Imo.

    Jank, drop it and don't do it again. You don't have any right to hassle the guy and it's very impolite to copy and paste pm's on here. Play nice with the others please :)

    Then again, remember kids not to say anything to anyone on a pm unless you trust them enough not make them public. And if you trust them that far you are a gullable fool imo ;)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 13,018 ✭✭✭✭jank


    I totally agree with you nesf. I just didnt expect to read an unexpected and smarmy pm that basicly put me down cause i asked a fairly valid question.

    But totally agree with about PM's being private. I was wrong to post it up.
    Sorry ya'll and you can trust with your pm's ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 87 ✭✭posiedon


    Guys, I did go back and update one of the posts, obviously went unnoticed.
    Unfortunately I could not edit the original as the system does not allow you make edits after 48 hours.

    Also, it does say to send in a mail or PM looking for further info, which many people have done, and all received replies.

    It's now just turned into what was a perfectly respectable job ad, into a rant.

    I will have to think twice about it next time.

    But I will extend the olive branch, and Jank, should you require any further information, by all means drop me a mail and your CV and I will give you more details.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,264 ✭✭✭RicardoSmith


    Theres no excuse for anyone not acting professionally. Especially if you advertising a job or expressing an interest in one.

    Personally I don't consider jobs or interviews where theres no mention of a salary scale. Its good practise and practical to give a salary range. Otherwise its very likely an application or interview can waste everyones time. In my opinion it indicates a certain mindset. Maybe its unintentional, but there you go. Something to consider maybe. Its like ads for cars that don't give the price or full details. You wonder what else they are not telling you. Will they handle all future issues in the same manner?

    No one is going to discuss salaries on an open forum, that just common sense. So don't ask stupid questions unless you want a stupid answer, such as "the going rate". However its nonsensical to suggest that an interest in salary demonstrates a lack of ability or motivation. Salary is a serious issue, its what makes you a professional. If someone wasn't interested very in the salary I'd be wondering do they have a head for business at all.

    If you were getting your car fixed, or building work done, would you prefer if someone is willing to talk through the costs, or would you prefer if they brushed it aside as of no consequence.

    Of course if you simply followed the guidelines of the forum, and posted a salary range none of this nonsense would have occured.

    IMO a salary range of 22-26 is about right for a graduate with all those skills. Obviously if you have less skills then you'd expect less salary. I would add that its sounds like an ideal role for someone to get some experience under their belt. You might try advertising in www.ITB.ie aswell. They have a mailing list for graduate positions, for all students and graduates.

    The olive branch, to refactor a problem goes a long way to restore kudos/respect in my eyes.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 87 ✭✭posiedon


    Cheers for the link and kudos of course :)

    The salary was not posted mainly because we were open to different levels of experience. If we post a salary range of around 20K, that would disuade people with better experience (maybe 1 or 2 years) from even applying, but who, we would obviously be prepared to pay more respectively. It's not for any devious reasons in the background. We're not a supermarket with a fixed hourly rate.

    Of course salary is very important, but as an employer, you do expect to see some degree of interest from a person who should be looking to expand their career first, and then the salary is secondary, but of course suitable to both parties. From what I can see the practice of not disclosig a salary is very common place on job adverts. But to keep you boardies all happy we will put a range in next time. Followed by "negotioable / competitive" ;)

    To be honest, I thought most of the Grads know roughly what the going rates are for different jobs were. They certainly did a few years back. They all pretty much paid within 2 or 3K of eachother. The euro might have made that a 5K gap now, but you know where I'm coming from.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,264 ✭✭✭RicardoSmith


    CPL have a decent salary guide. However in the current market salary ranges seem to be quite broad. Identically jobs could have a difference of 15k between them. 15-30k for example. Sounds absurd but I have seen it. Don't confuse agency adverts with real jobs. Agency ads are long on big words and short on specifics. Short on ethics come to think of it. I look for unusual details and specifics to determine if a ad is real and worth my time.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 13,018 ✭✭✭✭jank


    Again im sorry for my part in this understanding.

    All i wanted to know was that going rate for this job such as this. Maybe I should have stressed this point out in my first question.

    Unfortunately i cant apply for this postition because im still a full time student and will be for some time yet. But imo it is a fantastic oppertunity for some would be web developers out there to start their carrers in web design.


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