Battlefield 2 - First Impressions

c0y0te

http://www.avalon5.com/index.php/archives/147

koneko

The game itself is good, but the ingame browser (and menus overall really) is so bad it makes you want to give up and do something else. It's so so so so so awful.

Citizen_Erased

Great , I cant play it online yet but I'm still having great crack. The menus and start up video werent great. Nam had a cool one with foryunate son in the background.

jesus_thats_gre

I bought the game yesterday and still getting to grips with what is happening.. I am running it at 1600x1200 with every at full whack and I am getting great framerates..

The main criticisms I have is the menu's and lack of widescreen options... I have also got extremely used to playing CS:S and not using CD's. Speaking of which, is their a No CD crack that allows you to play online with your CD key..

Citizen_Erased

It's a bit early yet I'd imagine for them. Also , what about the so called unbreakable data protection on the cd ? Wouldnt that make it impossible?

jesus_thats_gre

I don't know to be honest.. But i am starting to get very annoyed with swapping between GTA: SA and BF2 CDs all the time... Stupid no cd crack wont work with GTA

Citizen_Erased

Buy a second dvd drive , it'll only set you back a few yo-yos. Thats what we've got here and its really handy for other stuff too.

jesus_thats_gre

Laptop...

StonedParadoX

... usb?

besides the menu's i was pleasently pleased

im gonna buy the game today or monday!

Citizen_Erased

Holy crap , your laptop must rock... full detail , good framerates - how much did that set you back ?

jesus_thats_gre

1,938

Dell XPS2, 2.0GHz Centrino, 2GB Ram, 256mb Nvidia 6800Go Ultra....

philologos

jesus_thats_gre wrote:

I don't know to be honest.. But i am starting to get very annoyed with swapping between GTA: SA and BF2 CDs all the time... Stupid no cd crack wont work with GTA

get the hoodlum crack...
*btw i did legally buy the game admin*

juliuspret

jesus_thats_gre
I'm unsure about BF2 and No-CD's working on multiplayer but for single player its No-CD works fine!

jesus_thats_gre

Jakkass wrote:

get the hoodlum crack...
*btw i did legally buy the game admin*

Everyone loves cracks

I tried this but it is not working for me.. anywayz back on topic...




BF2 is fun..

kirving

My first impressions are good, menu's could have been better and i'd like to be able to have a sceenname, not the account name, i also thought there would be more levels in single player and tht there would be a "campaign" lik in bf1942, i havent played for too long so plaese inform me if im wrong.

KdjaCL

Down with this sort of thing!


kdjac

Citizen_Erased

BF2 rag doll physics -
Seem slightly exxagerated at first . But then you get a running headshot with the m24 and watch the guy bowl over backwards. BF2 is fun.
Its also fun to watch bodies go flying in artillery strikes.

Nietzschean

first impressions would be that public server play without people ye know is just plain crap, the level of team work the game requires now means that i find those games boring/frustrating...


But games with people ye know acting like a proper team are just deadly...

Drapper

Geeat game ! one tip when your requesting an artillary strike ! DONT FORGET TO LEAVE the area !!

lol

El Boot

First impressions?

Terrible. A step backwards.

- Stupidly resource hungry. This is going to exclude a lot of people.

- Play on ranked servers to unlock weapons? Dumbest idea since Greedo shooting first.

- The interminably slow server browser. Spending ten minutes looking for a game because the menu system is slow is rediculous. At worst, this would take about one minute in Vietnam.

- No Bots in LAN multiplayer. Unforgivable mistake.

- 16 player maps only in single player? Daft.

- Buggy as hell. Random crashes and lockups all over the gaff. When it takes ten minutes to find a bloody game in the first place, this is incrediby annoying.

- The manual (as usual) is embarrassingly bad, probably because they want you to pay for the "Strategy Guide" (AKA the stuff that should have just been in the manual)

I can forgive a lot for a game I enjoyed as much as the battlefield series, but this, this is just rubbish. The cruellest part being that I bought it in Smyths, and they will not allow returns.

Ponster

- Play on ranked servers to unlock weapons? Dumbest idea since Greedo shooting first.

I couldn't care less myself. I'm not a points hog and I've seen the weapons that you get when unlocked and they aren't all that special...

- The interminably slow server browser. Spending ten minutes looking for a game because the menu system is slow is rediculous. At worst, this would take about one minute in Vietnam.

To be fixed in the first patch. Also ASE support being added.

- No Bots in LAN multiplayer. Unforgivable mistake.

Start a single player game. Have the other players on the LAN to go to MULTIPLAYER -> JOIN INTERNET. Click the JOIN IP button. Enter the local LAN IP address of machine running he singleplayer game.

- 16 player maps only in single player? Daft.

Easy to modify in config file. Yeah I know it's not standard but it only takes a few seconds to get more than 16.

- Buggy as hell. Random crashes and lockups all over the gaff. When it takes ten minutes to find a bloody game in the first place, this is incrediby annoying.

Not always a fault of the game as opposed to the system it's installed on you know...

- The manual (as usual) is embarrassingly bad, probably because they want you to pay for the "Strategy Guide" (AKA the stuff that should have just been in the manual)

Indeed it's a piece of crap but at least there are excellent forums for the info.

El Boot

Ok, I'm grumpy enough today, I'll argue back

Sorry but with the amount of cheaters out there it has to be this way. The servers temselves are usually pretty full though so come play on TiG !

TiG servers seemed to be full all the time, although the crappy server browser doesn't help with this. I bought the game to play and enjoy, not to spend time unlocking stuff. I don't understand what cheaters have to do with it though.

To be fixed in the first patch. Also ASE support being added.

Well thats sod-all use. I thought the idea of patching was to fix problems the developers missed. Did they think that menu system was fine or something? I work for a software developer. If we sent out software with such glaring bugs and without the word "BETA" in big letters our clients would hand us our asses.

Start a single player game. Have the other players on the LAN to go to MULTIPLAYER -> JOIN INTERNET. Click the JOIN IP button. Enter the local LAN IP address of machine running he singleplayer game.

Easy to modify in config file. Yeah I know it's not standard but it only takes a few seconds to get more than 16

Thanks for that. I'll give it a go. In fairness though, not exactly straightforward is it?

Not always a fault of the game as opposed to the system it's installed on you know...

Im running an Athlon 64, 1gb crucial low latency ram, an audigy and an ATI 9800 XT. All drivers up to date. Its stable in every other game I run (and I run a lot). I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say its not my system.

Indeed it's a piece of crap but at least there are excellent forums for the info.

Yep, I'm an internet baby, I can go and look stuff up. I shouldnt have to though.

Keyzer

The in game menu is sucks and logging into an account server takes centuries...

Gameplay is excellent imo... I never really got into any of the games before until this one but its very enjoyable.

Scruff

Played the demo online for the 1st time last night and really enjoyed it. Can see how potentialy brilliant a game it could be with proper squads and tactics. Have to say that for a public server it wasnt too bad. Mind you i was my first time playing a tactical team based game like that other than CS.
Might have to buy the full game but think it might be uninstalled and destroyed by my gf if it keeps me up till 3a.m. every night.
One question though. How do you change your respawn point? Got stuck on the carrier for aaaages last night.
oh and the menu doth sucketh.

LoBo

Ponster wrote:

Indeed it's a piece of crap but at least there are excellent forums for the info.

Linky?

In particular I'd like to know what you need to do to get each medal (list http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=272333). So essentially what gives you Army Combat Rating, Combat Proficiency etc etc

Ponster

There are a lot of forums out there with info but this place has pretty much everything....


http://www.shackbattles.com/wiki/index.php/Battlefield_2

Their points system section may answer your questions....


For me the menu system is slow but I couldn't really care too much (I use ASE to note down IP addresses and enter theù manually) but the fact that I don't have a section to record favourites and that it returns servers with a ping of 0 is crap.


I have a Athlon 64, 1gb crucial low latency ram, and a GeForce 9800 with Win64 and it's running very nice indeed though some people have had to drop their gfx settings down to medium to get it running properly. Then you can adjust the settings one by one until you have the best custom display.

-Al-

Some people are using the squads as a way to see there friends easier.


Got in a few which had some really good T/W going, but 2 over the weekend where just a joke, leader wasnt giving any orders, I followed them around anyway (all 2 of them) after a few minutes of covering there asses, they leave the squad and creat another one :rolleyes: ah well let em die.

And one where I got kicked, because they didnt want ppl who arent there friends playing with them, seen a few others being kicked too, so not just me

I have to say Ive been fortunate enough to only have 1 crash so far.

my biggest complaint is the TiG servers being full

Ciaran500

El Boot wrote:

. I bought the game to play and enjoy, not to spend time unlocking stuff.

Nearly every game you buy you need to spend time playing the game to unlock stuff.

El Boot wrote:

- Stupidly resource hungry. This is going to exclude a lot of people.

The game is based areound huge and detailed maps, you can't got away with out using alot of resources

El Boot wrote:

Im running an Athlon 64, 1gb crucial low latency ram, an audigy and an ATI 9800 XT. All drivers up to date. Its stable in every other game I run (and I run a lot). I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say its not my system.

I am yet to have this game crash on me. Me and three of my friend were playing it online all day Saturday, not one of us crashed.

Ponster

-Al- wrote:

my biggest complaint is the TiG servers being full

Become a member of their forum to find the addresses of their other ranked servers that aren't full

-Al-

servers so theres more than just the other one??


cause the same ip but with port 8 is full alot of the time aswell.

Ponster

I saw that 's' and considered getting rid of it

Naa I was counting the demo too.

16567, 16568 and the demo

-Al-

ah right.

they should do like some sites do, where you can buy a reserved slot, if they dont already.

Ponster

Yeah I'd be pretty happy to pay a little to play on a ranked server with people who seem to know what they're doing, whenever I wanted to....

Endurance Man

I was so happy when i went through all my regualar forums today and read the thoughts on bf2.
Replace css??, i think not!
This game is ripe with bugs, a lot of people are complaining a about lag, the browser is still crap, the ranking system just does not work as it should and finding a decent server with good players who no wat they are doing is short of impossible.
I will be sticking with good old cs until they can sort this unfinished game out. How could they even think if shipping with a browser like that, :eek: , rushed is an understatement.

jesus_thats_gre

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I have been playing the game all morning and it is by far the most frustrating experience I have ever had in my life...

The menu syster is a disgrace and I refuse to play it until it is resolved!! I have a 6800 Ultra and am having a bit of a time trying to optimise the frame rate. It is extremely frustrating having to exit out of the game just to chance a graphics settings..

Killing people also seems to be extremely difficult. Normally I would blame myself but I am good at all other FPSs so I dont know what to think anymore..

Draco

Ciaran500 wrote:

Nearly every game you buy you need to spend time playing the game to unlock stuff.

True, but those games also have a decent single player option - unlike BF2 and the string of unrelated maps which don't even unlock weapons for you. BF:V didn't have the locks so why does BF2?

The slow map loading is an absolute killer.

It has great potential, but there are some basic things that are qrong (menu interface etc.) that should have been fixed before it reached the general public.

El Boot

Personally, I'd struggle to even call the current release a BETA.

Anyone reminded of Tribes?

bizmark

Apart from the game sucking the life out of my pc (low detail with a 2600xp 1 gig of ram and a 9800pro! ffs) im happy with it

Webmonkey

Why dont you use daemon tools. Rip the image and mount it on a virtual drive. works great

Loobz

Bought this on the weekend. Not impressed.

Game is unplayable at 1024x768@85 hz, all medium and 2xaa.
I have P4 2.8, 1 gig OCZ ram and 9800 pro.

When I say 'unplayable', what I mean is it becomes soooooo ssooooo frustrating watching the game load over and over and over as you change one graphics setting ingame. That, coupled with the 50/50 chance that it actually logs in. On top of all this, in game its frustrating to see the game jump, stutter and fart all over my screen - I just Quit the game, cursing the moment I ever thought of double clicking the Battlefield 2 icon.

Absoloutly the largest piece of shyte Ive ever seen. The worse thing is that I know Im deffo not on my own on this. Wel done EA, we dont mind, cant wait to download your 500mb + patch whenever its released. :rolleyes:
Ive formatted my pc, updated all drivers and still no performance increase.

In fairness, considering that this is one of the biggest multiplayer games released recently, surley they would have done their homework on this. Why make half or more of their BF2 gamers sad when they could have made us happy. Sob.

I honestly cant remember when I bought a game with that much anticipation and in the end have so much dissapointment.

PANTS!

Ciaran500

Turn off the AA and it should be alot smoother. Either that or turn down some of the settings.

Loobz

Tbh, without aa and low settings, whats the point. I know the framerate will get better but I refuse to accept that. No freakin way EA.

Or maybe I have to accept the fact that I need an upgrade. I think Im gonna hold out for a patch. Apart from the fact that the menuis a big lump of muck, is there anything they can do for us who are struggling graphically? Or do we have to resort to low and possibly medium graphics?

KdjaCL

Loobz wrote:

Or maybe I have to accept the fact that I need an upgrade.

Your card is 3 years old , the game is 5 days, there some logic in there.
Turn off AA, Geometry and Lighting to Low, its all your card can handle.


kdjac

Ciaran500

TBH AA on a 9800 is wishful thinking. Any future patchs/drivers should give minor performance increases, but don't expect a miracle.

Loobz

Right, thats it. Im off to buy a 7800 GTX

Endurance Man

:rolleyes: . I new the unhappy customers would start coming out the woodwork. This game is flawed. Those trying to defend it are just trying to justify the money they spent . I hope with all mmy heart that patches sort all this out quickly as im not playing till they do. I still cant understand how they could ship to the public with the browser in that state. Its unforgivable!!!
Also my system is not great but its not crap!!
I have a P4 3.0ghz
1gb ddr2 ram
Gigabyte Mobo
Geforce 5900 256mb
And all is cooled very well with heatpipes on the gpu, zalman on the cpu and about 6 other fans.
Why cant i at least play on medium settings? I have to play on all low and then i get around 40fps :eek: .
I got latest drivers yada, yada, yada ......................

KdjaCL

Settings on my pc and effect , EAX turned off sound set to software.

Odd your pcs is kinda better than mine and its runs like a dream for me.

2400Xp
1.5GB 2700
9800XT
Sata

kdjac

Ciaran500

Athlon 1800+, 1gb ram and 9700 (NP) and is perfectly playable all on medium.

I think its your computer, not the game

EDIT: LIGHTNING you really need 1gb+ ram for this game

Endurance Man your graphics card is what is holding you back.

Ciaran500

42fps unaccaptable?

KdjaCL

LIGHTNING wrote:

What annoys me is the amount of keyboard warriors who think thatyou need the latest graphics card and more ram to run each new game.

But you do need a decent pc to play the latest games, its the cost of playing them.

Bf2 mostly has been running superbly for most ppl in here one or 2 with issues but more often its running fine.

my pc was for Doom 3 and Hl2 getting Bf2 out of it was a bonus but it needs an upgrade before end of summer. Only problem i have with Bf2 is the menu and ingame bugs that are game related not performance, i ahve a choice of geometry on high or AA, i chose AA.


kdjac

Drapper

Loobz wrote:

Right, thats it. Im off to buy a 7800 GTX

lol only 10% better than a 6800 Ultra !! :-) tomshardware !!