Banned from after hours

The General

I was banned for asking did anyone have any special offer codes for busybeedvd.com
then someone deleted that thread, i didnt recieve a PM from anyone explaining why so i opened a new thread asking why. It was locked and i was banned.

mods are way too strict around here :mad:

aidan_walsh

Well if you aren't able to figure it out on your own...

The General

ok i was banned because my thread was off topic :rolleyes:

i always thought after hours was for off topic chat

:mad:

seamus

1. I don't have to tell you why when I move a thread. I don't make a habit of deleting threads, or there's no paper trail.

2. I was actually lenient, and then banned you for breaking the cardinal rule - if you're confused, don't post on the same board asking why. Quick tip - when your thread is locked or binned, try to find out why on your own first.


It's a week, get over it.

The General

i couldn't care less about being banned for a week, but i think i should get a explanation of why my thread was locked in the first place?

Trojan

AH is too busy to PM people reasons why every single ban/thread lock/move happens. Read the charter, or post here (like you've just done, fair play) if you're unsure.

Cheers,
Al.

The General

Trojan wrote:

AH is too busy to PM people reasons why every single ban/thread lock/move happens. Read the charter, or post here (like you've just done, fair play) if you're unsure.

Cheers,
Al.

I wouldn't mind if i posted something that could have gone in a different forum, but in my opinion my thread should have been posted in after hours

seamus

The General wrote:

I wouldn't mind if i posted something that could have gone in a different forum, but in my opinion my thread should have been posted in after hours

My opinion differs.

Repost your thread here. See the sticky at the top of the forum about requests lest you fall foul of more rules.

bonzai bob

Trojan wrote:

AH is too busy to PM people reasons why every single ban/thread lock/move happens. Read the charter, or post here (like you've just done, fair play) if you're unsure.

Cheers,
Al.

bull****, if you're going to do a job then do it fúckin right. If you can't spare 2 seconds to let them know why banned/deleted their posts then don't do it. If it's really beyond your capabilities then organise it so an automatic pm is sent to the person in question.

seamus

bonzai bob wrote:

bull****, if you're going to do a job then do it fúckin right. If you can't spare 2 seconds to let them know why banned/deleted their posts then don't do it. If it's really beyond your capabilities then organise it so an automatic pm is sent to the person in question.

If people can't take 2 seconds to look for their moved post and consider why it was moved, that's not our problem.

I'll PM someone when I ban them, but not when I move posts. Once you have posted a thread, it no longer "belongs" to you. If I delete posts, then there's usually a good reason (and said person will be banned). If it's not obvious, there may be a PM sent.

stevenmu

bonzai bob wrote:

bull****, if you're going to do a job then do it fúckin right. If you can't spare 2 seconds to let them know why banned/deleted their posts then don't do it. If it's really beyond your capabilities then organise it so an automatic pm is sent to the person in question.

How is an automated pm supposed to know why a moderator moved or deleted something ?

Talliesin

bonzai bob wrote:

bull****, if you're going to do a job then do it fúckin right. If you can't spare 2 seconds to let them know why banned/deleted their posts then don't do it. If it's really beyond your capabilities then organise it so an automatic pm is sent to the person in question.

I don't see the point in sending a written message to people that are incapable of reading the rules. What are they going to do with it, print it out and ask someone to read it to them?

Beruthiel

Talliesin wrote:

What are they going to do with it, print it out and ask someone to read it to them?

isn't that what mammys are for?

Sherifu

I think a message would be pointless.
By figuring out your mistakes yourself, you know what to do next time.
An automated message isn't going to help you.....

RuggieBear

seamus wrote:

If people can't take 2 seconds to look for their moved post and consider why it was moved, that's not our problem.

I'll PM someone when I ban them, but not when I move posts. Once you have posted a thread, it no longer "belongs" to you. If I delete posts, then there's usually a good reason (and said person will be banned). If it's not obvious, there may be a PM sent.

That seems fair enough to me....

RuggieBear

rkm wrote:

I think a message would be pointless.
By figuring out your mistakes yourself, you know what to do next time.

I disagree. I've been banned and had absolutely no idea why.

which is frustrating....to say the least

Trojan

bonzai bob wrote:

bull****, if you're going to do a job then do it fúckin right. If you can't spare 2 seconds to let them know why banned/deleted their posts then don't do it. If it's really beyond your capabilities then organise it so an automatic pm is sent to the person in question.

If you don't like it, then you're very welcome not to post on AH, because that's the way I'm moderating it, and from recent posts on the Feedback forum, that's the way AH readers want it too. Other mods, like seamus and Monty, will differ to some degree, but I think we're roughly on the same page.

Personally I like to give boards users credit for some intelligence, like when they've been banned after posting something pornographic, or had a thread about a movie moved to the Films board, that they can figure it out themselves, or if they're unsure, they can post on here, just like TG did (and which, you'll note, I said fair play to him for doing so).

You'd be advised to calm down, lose the anger and not so subtle attacks (I'm not capable of doing the job, eh? ), because you have a valid argument to make and those detract greatly from that argument.

Oh, and realise that there are more important things in life than an online BBS

Regards,
Al.

RuggieBear

Trojan wrote:

Oh, and realise that there are more important things in life than an online BBS

Blasphemer!

STONE HIM!!!!!

Sherifu

RuggieBear wrote:

I disagree. I've been banned and had absolutely no idea why.

which is frustrating....to say the least

That hasn't happened to me yet.
I make sure I get banned for a good reason.

/edit

The specific case I was talking about was an automated message btw.
When I was banned from the soccer board because a guy I sponsored was banned I would have had no idea if Tala hadn't pm'ed me.
In cases like this its a great help to be told why you're banned.
But for obviously breaking a site wide rule like personal attacks why should the mod be bothered sending a pm....

WhiteWashMan

The General wrote:

I wouldn't mind if i posted something that could have gone in a different forum, but in my opinion my thread should have been posted in after hours

and my opinion is that it should have been posted on the films and dvd forum.

looks like we have two opinions.

of course, mine is the right one.

seamus

WhiteWashMan wrote:

and my opinion is that it should have been posted on the films and dvd forum.

looks like we have two opinions.

of course, mine is the right one.

That's funny, cos I said Bargains

Chalk

seamus wrote:

That's funny, cos I said Bargains

theres too many forums,
we should just have one big one tbh.

everyone can be a moderater aswell.

Hobbes

seamus wrote:

1. I don't have to tell you why when I move a thread. I don't make a habit of deleting threads, or there's no paper trail.

2. I was actually lenient, and then banned you for breaking the cardinal rule - if you're confused, don't post on the same board asking why. Quick tip - when your thread is locked or binned, try to find out why on your own first.


It's a week, get over it.

There needs to be a "Topic Search" option on boards to stop this sort of thing (instead of Mr know it more then you where to shove your post moderator )

AH has always been the generic area to post and quite a few people would probably not even realise that a particular forum on the subject they are posting exists.

Take for example if I was to look for what a phone number mapped to. Most people (like myself) would wander through the lists looking for phone related forum and not realise you have to go into the Computers section (comp->netcomms->netcomms), which has nothing to do with phones IMHO.

You have other stuff in public area which isn't sorted either.

Prehaps a meta-tag for each forum so you can hit a button and it best suggests where to post your subject.

Talliesin

The General wrote:

I wouldn't mind if i posted something that could have gone in a different forum, but in my opinion my thread should have been posted in after hours

Why?

Jim

Like the idea of Meta tags. Can they applied to particular forums?

ecksor

bonzai bob wrote:

bull****, if you're going to do a job then do it fúckin right. If you can't spare 2 seconds to let them know why banned/deleted their posts then don't do it. If it's really beyond your capabilities then organise it so an automatic pm is sent to the person in question.

Give me one good reason why the mods of our forums should tolerate muck like this?

Tar.Aldarion

they shouldn't have to but out of common courtesy i would unless it was some rascist jerk or something

Beruthiel

ecksor wrote:

Give me one good reason why the mods of our forums should tolerate muck like this?

for pointing and laughing purposes?

The General

WhiteWashMan wrote:

and my opinion is that it should have been posted on the films and dvd forum.

looks like we have two opinions.

of course, mine is the right one.

in my opinion if you are saying that my thread should have been put in the film section, then 80% of after hours threads could be moved to different sections. I think after hours should be less strict, if someone posts a thread with something illegal then lock it but if its a thread about whatever, if theres no interest in the thread then it will slowly drift away, if there is then it should be there

I say loosen up a bit when it comes to AH, and by doing so it will make less work for the mods

OPINIONS

The General

ecksor wrote:

Give me one good reason why the mods of our forums should tolerate muck like this?

being a mod is your decision, so don't complain when people complain about how bad some of the mods handle themselves, this isnt directed at you or anybody else just in general really

amp

If you want to post outside of the harsh restrictions of After Hours, the Cuckoo's Nest will welcome your crap with open arms. However, it may not generate the results you expect.

Also, in my opinion you're a moron. But that's only my opinion, which is over five years better than yours.

ecksor

I think there's a slight misunderstanding relating to my earlier comment.

Why on earth should mods have to respond to comments such as the ones bonzai bob posted above?

RuggieBear

ecksor wrote:

Why on earth should mods have to respond to comments such as the ones bonzai bob posted above?

...for the hookers and coke???

The General

amp wrote:

If you want to post outside of the harsh restrictions of After Hours, the Cuckoo's Nest will welcome your crap with open arms. However, it may not generate the results you expect.

Also, in my opinion you're a moron. But that's only my opinion, which is over five years better than yours.

well in my OPINION you are a muppet, wow you were a member of boards for 5 years more than i am, well done, your medal is in the post. :rolleyes:

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

amp has his fair share of medals.

He's earned them.

*salutes*

The General

OK lets forget about it all, i was wrong, i got banned for a week and i'm sure i'll cope, close thread please

Tar.Aldarion

why is this thing open?
maybe the mods don't bent to your will ('',)

amp

The General wrote:

OK lets forget about it all, i was wrong, i got banned for a week and i'm sure i'll cope, close thread please

Hell no, it's just getting interesting! Tell us more of your ideas on how to run boards!

Sherifu

/me stabs thread sideways

DeVore

"bull****, if you're going to do a job then do it fúckin right. "

"job" implies pay. So since I've taken the time to reply to your post.... that'll be 100 quid please!

DeV.

Tar.Aldarion

damn thats an upclass poster ho! :eek:

WhiteWashMan

The General wrote:

in my opinion if you are saying that my thread should have been put in the film section, then 80% of after hours threads could be moved to different sections. I think after hours should be less strict, if someone posts a thread with something illegal then lock it but if its a thread about whatever, if theres no interest in the thread then it will slowly drift away, if there is then it should be there

I say loosen up a bit when it comes to AH, and by doing so it will make less work for the mods

OPINIONS

insightful. if only youd been around when boards.ie started. you could have had some useful input into the setting up this beautiful nirvana.

by the way, how would less work be made for the mods?

Beruthiel

DeVore wrote:

"job" implies pay. So since I've taken the time to reply to your post.... that'll be 100 quid please!

I'd pay if I were you
DeV knows no bounds when it comes to revenge...

johnnyc

i find the mods to be the most Intolerant type of people you ask then why you got banned and they just seem to attack you with there aggressive responses calling you stupid and other crap

seamus

johnnyc wrote:

i find the mods to be the most Intolerant type of people you ask then why you got banned and they just seem to attack you with there aggressive responses calling you stupid and other crap

Example?

amp

bonzai bob wrote:

bull****, if you're going to do a job then do it fúckin right. If you can't spare 2 seconds to let them know why banned/deleted their posts then don't do it. If it's really beyond your capabilities then organise it so an automatic pm is sent to the person in question.

How did I miss this priceless gem?

I never pm people when I ban them. I want them to go through a certain level of confusion as they cannot find the forum they posted in. Sometimes they pm me and I usually reply. I find this method usually makes people remember getting banned and therefore more careful not to get banned.

Keep your nose clean Bob, I'm a sucker for irony, but I don't charge as much as Dev

johnnyc

ok go to this link and theres a mod called bazh look at his comments. especially if you are a united fan was he banned no.
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=261123

seamus

johnnyc wrote:

ok go to this link and theres a mod called bazh look at his comments. especially if you are a united fan was he banned no.
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=261123

Bazh isn't mod on Humour.

Outside of their own forums, moderators are just normal users. Report and complain about them as you would anyone else.

I did see reports for that post, and while tasteless, I didn't deem it necessary for me to step in as Smod. The actual mod of that forum might think otherwise.

johnnyc

i reported that post nothing was done about it? usual protected lot

Hobbes

johnnyc wrote:

i reported that post nothing was done about it? usual protected lot

Use the report post option. Possible the mod didn't see your request yet. Then post in feedback forum or a PM to the admins.

Moderators have no powers outside thier own forums and still answer to admins in the forum they moderate. Mods do get banned from other forums and mods do get de-mod for muppetry. Cat mods I believe are to stop general stupidity and not moderate a forum based on its rules. Super mods are to deal with serious trouble makers until an admin can get around to it (again don't moderate forums like normal moderators).

.

seamus

johnnyc wrote:

i reported that post nothing was done about it? usual protected lot

I already told you, I didn't feel it warranted my attention, though the mod of Humour might do something. They may not have seen it yet.