Help with Marshall Amp

Hammett_rules

Hi, I'm gonna get a new amp soon, but I'm stuck on what amp to get...

I'm either getting:

1) AVT-50H + 1912 cab
or
2) DSL-401 combo...

I personally think that the DSL combo is the best, since it's all-tube, but what do you guys think?

Thanx

feylya

Neither. But if you have to, get the DSL-401.

http://www.thomann.de/thoiw2_engl_screamer_50_roehrencombo_e330_prodinfo.html

jcoote

yeah i would go for the dsl alright its just better sounding on the od channel plus its less bulky...what style are u goin for cos marshall aren't the best in the world...especially price to quality ratio

david

All valve for rock and metal, I'd go for something ENGL. Three channel Thunder 50 combo for €759 is what I'm getting. Ill let you know how I get on.

Ancient1

All valve for rock and metal, I'd go for something.

You sound like Yoda there...


Are you considering the TSL range?

jcoote

this or this

but the engl feylya posted is a whopper go for that

ancient1 correct...sound like yoda he did (way off topic but they are supposed to be makin a prequel to phantom menace set 100 years before about YODA ...savage)

Hammett_rules

LOL, Cool, thanx..

I mostly play Metal, but sometimes need a good clen sound so I think i'll get the DSL-401...It has a jack for an extra cab

EDIT: Yeah I've looked at the TSL-601, anyone know what that's like?

feylya

Mmm, I'd like a Whopper right now. With fries and a large coke...

I played a valve state Hi Watt earlier. Incredible sounding. To the tune of €500 in the local shop but I can't find it online.

feylya

Hammett_rules wrote:

LOL, Cool, thanx..

I mostly play Metal, but sometimes need a good clen sound so I think i'll get the DSL-401...It has a jack for an extra cab

Eh, really good clean? Not from a Marshall you won't. You'll get an adequate one but it won't be anything to write home about.

jcoote

hate burger king but i do like hi watts it has to be said...marshall clean sounds like someone pukin in a hall (ie reverb is **** and the tone is very muddled)...that roland i posted is the best clean sound i've heard..or maybe a fender but not a marshall..but hey thats just an opinion get what u want man

Ancient1

Have to check out them Hi Watts....hunting for an amp at the moment.

And earlier on today i spooted this Mesa F-50 on ebay.

Another sleepless night for me *sigh*

jcoote

ancient 1 needs a hug...or a mesa...how much man

feylya

Ancient1 wrote:

Have to check out them Hi Watts....hunting for an amp at the moment.

And earlier on today i spooted this Mesa F-50 on ebay.

Another sleepless night for me *sigh*

And you didn't even get Yngwie plec

Ancient1

It was going for 500 sterling and the reserve wasn't met

No chance i can get my hands on that baby....

The only way i'll be able to get a great amp at a reasonable price is to find a moron who doesn't know jack. Does anyone know a moron who's selling a nice amp?

Ancient1

feylya wrote:

And you didn't even get Yngwie plec

LOL....tell you what. While dabhoys and Doc J were hunting for plecs up front, i was distracted by a young and healthy female on the right hand balcony flashing her tits at the crowd

jcoote

tits or a legends plec....tits it is...well done man i'm so proud

feylya

Ancient1 wrote:

LOL....tell you what. While dabhoys and Doc J were hunting for plecs up front, i was distracted by a young and healthy female on the right hand balcony flashing her tits at the crowd

Plec or tits. Plec or tits. Well, did you take a photo? Photo lasts longer. But an Yngwie plec...

Don't get a Marshall.

Hammett_rules

Anyone seen this amp? Linky

BTW: Anyone tried a TSL-601?

Ancient1

They should have more women like that at gigs

Back on track:

Musician Inc have a TSL-601 in stock (it's over a grand), best thing to do is go there early on a weekend and blast away.

Edit: Oh crap, i just noticed that you're in England

jcoote

tsl 601 is ok way better than the other 2 u mentioned...your dead set on a marshall yeah

Hammett_rules

Ancient1 wrote:

Edit: Oh crap, i just noticed that you're in England

LOL yeah, unlucky for me...

Anyway, right now I have a MG30DFX, it's OK, but the distorion sounds rubbish, so I use a Uber Metal pedal...

EDIT: Marshall valve-amps just seem good, and they are affordable (mostly)...Unless I win the lottery,then i'll get a Mesa Boogie

jcoote

oh right your in england...well if your using an mg an avt isn't that much of an upgrade so dsl or tsl for sure man

It wasn't me!

Try pick up a second-hand one on eBay. Go for an older Marshall if you're going to get a Marshall but there are much nicer high-gain amps out there that can be picked up for reasonable prices. Try pick up a Dual rectifier on eBay. I saw one go for about $1000 not long ago. How I wished I hadn't bought a Les Paul then. :rolleyes: Wait, no I didn't!

feylya

I played a new Gibson Les Paul today. Not sure what model but it wasn't a studio. Sounded nice and felt nice but the quality just wasn't there...

jcoote

feylya wrote:

I played a new Gibson Les Paul today. Not sure what model but it wasn't a studio. Sounded nice and felt nice but the quality just wasn't there...

can u expand on that

feylya

On which, the quality? Well, the fretboard was dry and seemed to be damaged on the nut side of every fret, the binding had loads of scratches where it was bevelled for the frets, the inserts for the TOM bridge were half covered in lacquer. It just didn't look like a two and a half grand instrument.

jcoote

doesn't sound new...lp are way overrated anyway IMO

It wasn't me!

Yeah, quality started slipping from 95 onwards... Mine's a 93.

david

Check your pm's dave!

jcoote

i hope u don't mean yourself freakonaleashx...if u do get off the internet now!!!!

It wasn't me!

I saw it earlier but my computer killed itself before I could reply and I forgot about it. Not really my thing to be honest. Don't go in for emo and metalcore. Right now I just want a cool, no holds barred metal band, thrash or speed, I'm not particularly fussy which.

feylya

PM works for replies too...

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Back Species: Mahogany
Center Block: Single-ply top

NECK
Species: Mahogany
Profile: '50's Rounded or '60's slim taper
Peghead Pitch: 17°
Thickness at 1st Fret: 0.818
Thickness at 12th Fret: 0.963
Neck Joint Location: 16

FINGERBOARD
Species: Rosewood
Scale Length: 243/4"
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Number of Frets: 22
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Controls: Two volume, two tone, three-way switch

david

It wasn't me! wrote:

I saw it earlier but my computer killed itself before I could reply and I forgot about it. Not really my thing to be honest. Don't go in for emo and metalcore. Right now I just want a cool, no holds barred metal band, thrash or speed, I'm not particularly fussy which.

Well thats just the influence they have... Im not gonna play metalcore either... like... they like tool and stuff... you still interested?! We need a bassist!

david

Sorry Fey... will keep it to PM's

Ancient1

oh man, look at this:

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=46656&item=7326066157&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

Vintage '73 Marshall Bluesbreaker....there's info een eenglish at the bottom.

jcoote

Ancient1 wrote:

oh man, look at this:

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=46656&item=7326066157&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

Vintage '73 Marshall Bluesbreaker....there's info een eenglish at the bottom.

indeed now we are talkin

Ancient1

I could easily get it at this price, but there's five days to go and there are people out there who just won't let me have it....

jcoote

thats a total steel...u get the ip addresses of the other bidders and i'll get the viruses

Ancient1

That's a great idea! I'll get on in asap

jcoote

**** that is a good price tho..thats definatly what hammet rules should be lookin into

Ancient1

Hammett Rules can't have it, coz it's MINE MINE and only MINE

JMArr

Hammett_rules wrote:

LOL, Cool, thanx..

I mostly play Metal, but sometimes need a good clen sound so I think i'll get the DSL-401...It has a jack for an extra cab

EDIT: Yeah I've looked at the TSL-601, anyone know what that's like?

I've got a DSL401 and its great I would recommend it absolutely.great crunch and lead channel..tons of balls on the lead channel too for the metal stuff. (I dont use it much myself).and its plenty loud too.
clean channel is decent imo .nice tone to my ears but I've never owned a fender twin so cant really compare to the ''benchmark''. sounds great to me tho e.g. I play a tele thru the clean channel,neck pickup and its sweet sparkling hendrix tone all the way ..a la little wing.

reverb isnt the best tho in truth...prob because fender amps defined the sound.

Its won a few 'best buy' awards in the mags too so thats a bonus.
but its all personal taste ...go down and try a load of amps in your local store you might like something different.you never know you might like a Stinger !

SirLemonhead

Nice thread de-railing there guys

The Marshall DSL combo series are kinda infamous for their low build quality. Lots of people, including myself, have had problems with them.
I don't think I could really recommend that you go for one of those.

How about a JCM 800 combo?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=10171&item=7326243100&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

If I was after a marshall combo, i'd go for a JCM 800. You'd probably want to get a cheap overdrive pedal for boosting the input, which will boost the amp's gain for you.
This kind of setup is exactly what Metallica used on the first two albums, and I thiiink later on also, for lead tones here and there.

JMArr

hmmm interesting I didnt hear that ...what kinda probs did you have?
I'm paranoid now...:-(

Hammett_rules

Thanx, guys...

The only place i've seen the JCM 800 is on Ebay, never seen it on any other sites or in shops...I'll go to a music shop some time and try out some amps...

SirLemonhead

JMArr wrote:

hmmm interesting I didnt hear that ...what kinda probs did you have?
I'm paranoid now...:-(

I'm sure if you've had yours long enough, and not experienced any problems, then you'll be ok. You've got a good one I guess.

I think the common problem that people get with them is sound will cut out. I think the solder joints in the amps aren't the best.

I heard about it on various guitar/amp forums. People's 'horror' stories about them.

Mine is currently dead. No sound comes out of it. Before that the sound used to cut out on me frequently.

I'd say don't worry though, if yours is ok now, it'll probably stay like that. I think most of the problems people had were apparent quite soon after buying the amps.

SirLemonhead

Hammett_rules wrote:

Thanx, guys...

The only place i've seen the JCM 800 is on Ebay, never seen it on any other sites or in shops...I'll go to a music shop some time and try out some amps...

The shops will most likely have the JCM 800 reissue head. Try one of those. You should get a decent enough idea of how the combo version will sound.

somerandomguy

Id advise not to get the avt 50. i have one myself. theyr good for a clean sound but they have no FX and the distortion is poor

JMArr

freakonaleashx wrote:

All valve for rock and metal, I'd go for something ENGL. Three channel Thunder 50 combo for €759 is what I'm getting. Ill let you know how I get on.

Yo Freak...did you get that ENGL amp yet?>wotsitlike?
I tried a 50W combo in a music shop in dublin (instrumental) ...impressive :cool:
where did you buy..thomann?

david

JMArr wrote:

Yo Freak...did you get that ENGL amp yet?>wotsitlike?
I tried a 50W combo in a music shop in dublin (instrumental) ...impressive :cool:
where did you buy..thomann?

Ordered it today from Thomann:cool: