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SW films in order of preference

  • 20-05-2005 6:27pm
    #1
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,480 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    Well, at last we can make this call, albeit quite soon after ROTS

    So IMO

    ESB 10/10, highlight "I am your Father", Vaders lines in general
    ROTS 9/10, highlight, intro flyover in shadows, the tie in's and Anakin's turning
    AOTC 8/10, highlight OB1 V's Jango, Yoda V's Dooku
    ANH 8/10, highlight Intro scene of the blockade runner
    ROTJ 7.5/10, highlight Emperor/Vader/Luke scenes
    TPM 7/10, highlight Pod race, duel of the fates

    Try and keep this thread short and sweet, I suggest the above format, name followed by marks out of 10, followed by a few highlights

    In conclusion, thank you GL


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,284 ✭✭✭pwd


    6 5 4 2 1
    not seen 3.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,584 ✭✭✭✭Creamy Goodness


    that's the same order i'd out them in too.

    i also haven't seen three but it hope it will slot in between 2 and 4.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,144 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    5 3 4 6 2 1

    But I'm going to see ROTS again tommorow, in hopefully a better seat this time, so I may yet move it up the ranking.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    6 5 3 4 2 1

    Imo


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,753 ✭✭✭qz


    Empire Strikes Back
    Revenge of the Sith
    A New Hope
    Return of the Jedi
    The Phantom Menace
    Attack of the Clones


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,426 ✭✭✭Roar


    Empire 10/10,

    my highlight being Luke chopping off "Vader"'s head in the dark side tree on dagobah. Only for the fact this is my earliest star wars memory (in fact one fo my earliest memories), I remember that scene vividly, watching it when i was four in Wales where i used to live, on my Dads knee, that memory is the root of my obsession

    Sith 10/10

    Words cant describe how much i loved this movie, its everything i could have hoped for and then some. As someone said on another thread you dont even notice the time going by, i went to see it twice on opening day and even on the second screening it was over before i knew it

    A New Hope 10/10

    IF there's ever such a thing as a "perfect" movie then i think this is it..

    Then the rest

    Jedi 7/10, i watched this recently and i actually think its a good movie, it has a cracking story and Luke's struggle with his conscience is superb. I fcuking hate ewoks though.


    Clones 6/10

    it was on tv last weekend, and while the last half an hour is magic, the preceeding two hours is dour, it's boring, it's clunky, Hayden's acting was terrible, in fact the whole love story was sh!t.

    Menace 6/10

    Darth Maul was the best thing about this movie, criminally robbed of screen time. It's not all that bad, but then again we had to put up with shoddy acting, an annoying little blonde twit and fcuking jar jar.

    But anyone who says the hairs on the back of their neck dont stand up when the hanger door opens to reveal Maul with his double ended light sabre while "Duel of the Fates" kicks in is either a liar, blind or both


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 311 ✭✭<Jonny>


    Empire
    Hope
    Sith
    Jedi
    Menace
    Clones


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,455 ✭✭✭weemcd


    Empire Strikes Back
    Revenge of the Sith
    Return of the Jedi
    A New Hope
    Attack of the Clones
    The Phantom Menace


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,698 ✭✭✭✭BlitzKrieg


    Empire
    ROTJ
    ANH
    THe clone wars mini series
    Jedi Knight 1 cut scenes
    ROTS
    TPM and AOTC (equally crap)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 375 ✭✭Board@Work


    Empire,
    A New Hope,
    Sith,
    Clones,
    Return of the Jedi,
    Phantom..

    IMO


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,312 ✭✭✭pbsuxok1znja4r


    1. Revenge of the Sith
    best bits: Palpatine killing Jedi and Windu. What an animal. Any scene with Palpatine. Anakin screaming: "You turned her against me!" Anakin burning alive, with Kenobi shouting "You were the chosen one..." 10/10 for McGregors delivery of that line.

    2. Return Of The Jedi
    best bits: Luke flipping out against Vader and beating him down, cutting his hand off. The way you can tell Vader is torn up inside as Luke gets burned by the Emporer's force lightning.

    3. The Empire strikes back
    best bits: the initial fight between Vader and Luke; great battle.

    4. A New Hope
    best bits: when luke walks in and first sees Leia, what a babe! When Kenobi lets Vader kill him, because he knows the path to immortality...

    5. Attack Of the Clones
    best bits: Yoda vs. Dooku

    6. The Phantom Menace
    least bad bits: Qui-Gon and Kenobi vs Darth Maul


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 311 ✭✭<Jonny>



    The way you can tell Vader is torn up inside as Luke gets burned by the Emporer's force lightning.


    Haha. God-yes.

    He's just standing there, but you can feel that he's about to flip out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,455 ✭✭✭weemcd


    watched phantom menace yesterday and ive a new found appreciation on why it sucks so much ass


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 545 ✭✭✭OY


    Interesting that with the exception of Scouser Tommy everyone has Empire as their top movie.
    my list:

    1. A New Hope (For the sheer imagination of it! Amazing!)
    2. Empire Strikes Back
    3. Return of the Sith
    4. Return of the jedi
    5. Clones

    That is all the Star Wars that i am willing to acknowledge! ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,930 ✭✭✭✭TerrorFirmer


    Empire Strikes Back -Haunting dream of Luke Slicing Vaders head off.
    A New Hope - The Very first scene, fantastic first impressions of Vader
    Revenge of the Sith - Clonetroopers turning on Jedi, murder of Jedi HC
    Return of the Jedi - The Forest Battle (minus ewoks god I hate them)
    Attack of the Clones - The entire movie being better then Phatom!
    Phantom Menace - That hanger scene between Maul and Jedi*

    *Never in a Star Wars movie have a seen something so captivating and beautiful as those first few moments, with Duel of the Fates coming in, and Darth Maul lowering his hood and igniting his saber. Absolute magic.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,101 ✭✭✭Kingsize


    WOW !
    now i know i wasnt over re-acting,jesus i cant really fault Sith & i'd rate it 2nd or 3rd out of the 6 movies.

    Empire
    Hope - not too fond of the re-worked greedo scene in the special edition though)
    Sith
    Jedi
    Clones
    Menace


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭][cEMAN**


    Empire
    New Hope (because it's the classic. It's like godfather v godfather2 - 2 is better but the first is still a classic)
    Sith
    Jedi (I actually love ewoks)
    Clones
    Phantom


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,101 ✭✭✭Kingsize


    i actually hate the fukking pod race commentary in phantom menace more than i hate jar jar -
    anybody else think this sucks?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 311 ✭✭<Jonny>


    Yeah, Kingsize. It takes away from the whole "galaxy far far away" experience. It's like the american superbowl or something. Too cheesey.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    Empire; Han being frozen, followed by Luke and Vader. 10/10

    Jedi; The battle at the end from when Vader says "So you have a sister" To the end credits. Don't mind the ewoks in small doses. Also like Han preparing to step aside for Luke and Leia to be together. I love how it leaves me feeling at the end, happy but aching inside because it is over.10/10

    A New Hope; All of it. 10/10

    Sith; The first half sucked donkey balls, up to and including Anakin's transfer to the dark side. Order 66 was incredibly moving. And it was mostly great from there apart from the continuity errors.
    Padme dying in child birth, when in Jedi, Leia has memories of her that Luke doesn't and Obi Wan knowing Luke has a twin when in Empire he thinks Luke is their last hope.
    Also I would have liked to have seen more of Anakin wiping out the Jedi at the council building, both before and when he reached to children. (use of the word younglings was awful) But the last half left a familiar aching in me that I didn't think Star Wars could anymore. 2/10 for the first half, 8/10 for the second

    Phantom Menace; Generally utter crap but excusable as it was the first of a 9 part saga. The worst part was the pod race. It was nothing more than a show-off of cgi, where no-one but the youngest child could get emotionally involved in the outcome as if he had lost the galaxy might have been saved from Palpatine. Darth Maul was pointless. The best part of the movie was the score. 4/10

    Clones; Worst movie ever! (of the saga, not of all movies ever made ;) ). While the end of it was better than anything in Phantom Menace it was the 2nd movie and needed to be better.

    It would have been better if Phantom and Clones were rolled into one good movie, then the 2nd movie could have concentrated on the Clone Wars and the growing disillusionment that some were having with Palpatine. Padme could have had a bit of a sense of humour/sarcasm to go along with her sense of duty. (Like Leia did).

    Scenes showing Anakin's anger and frustration should have been better plotted. There should have been a better sense of comraderie between Obi Wan, Anakin and Padme, a little of which appears at the end of Clones. Obi Wan didn't need to be such an attempt at imitating Alec Guinness. And there should never been a Jar Jar, (or we should have seen him killed in a horrible manner).

    The fact that Sith was really good at the end makes me feel worse about the first 2 movies. As it just goes to show that Lucas hasn't lost his touch. He just wasn't trying very hard! :mad:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,885 ✭✭✭Stabshauptmann


    Sith
    Jedi
    Empire
    Attack of the Clones
    <the clone wars animated series>
    Hope
    Phantom


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,372 ✭✭✭The Bollox


    Empire
    Jedi
    Hope
    Sith
    Clones
    Phantom


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,216 ✭✭✭✭monkeyfudge


    A New Hope
    Empire Strikes Back
    Return of the Jedi
    Revenge of the Sith
    The Phantom Menace
    eh... Caravan of Courage
    .... Battle for Endor
    .... Star Wars Holiday Special
    .... Attack of the Clones.

    I didn't like Attack of the Clones very much......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,488 ✭✭✭Goodshape


    - Empire Strikes Back
    - A New Hope
    - Revenge of the Sith (some bad parts but ultimately pretty ****ing good!)
    - Return of the Jedi (some good parts but goddamn those ewoks. completely ruin the mood of an otherwise dark and interesting film)
    - Attack of the Clones
    -
    -
    -
    -
    -
    -
    - The Other One


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,406 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Empire Strikes Back
    A New Hope
    Revenge of the Sith
    Return of the Jedi
    Attack of the Clones
    Phantom Menace


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 311 ✭✭<Jonny>


    I don't understand how people can place clones before menace.

    Sure, they're both pretty stinking, but for me, Menace is miles better than Clones.

    It's got a much better plot and plot structure than Clones.. which doesn't really have either. There's the Darth Maul duel.. the great opening sequence.. pod race (minus the awful commentators)...the fact that it's the first prequel... It just feels more like a proper movie.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 292 ✭✭Thrasher


    I can't believe no-one has placed Return of the Jedi last. (I would comment on the posts that have placed it first, but I am presuming that these posters haven't actually seen the film since 1983).

    Sure, it has some father versus son action at the end, but the whole thing is a mess that makes Episodes I and II look like pearls. As George Lucas puts it himself, the first half is an unecessary gap-filler and the second half is a rehash of Episode IV's ending.

    And then there are Ewoks.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 311 ✭✭<Jonny>


    I like return of the jedi. The whole reaquaintance with luke as a seasoned jedi. In fact, the whole opening, is pretty cool. It doesn't lose its pace either. The sail barge scene is great. The endor attack is orchestrated well and is quite entertaining to watch. I don't find the ewoks half as annoying as the gungans or the kids in episode 1. To each his own, I suppose.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,698 ✭✭✭✭BlitzKrieg


    I don't understand how people can place clones before menace.

    I want to put the two of them in limbo (along with sith) cause i dont hate them like spawns of satan, i have a sort of fondness found in the same way as collecting stamps, they tie up ends. But as films i agree they stink but they're star wars so they're not really films, they're seriels like those flash gordon ones george loves so much. Hence i put Jedi Knight and clone wars before them.

    On Return of the Jedi, it ties up the story quite nicely, hence i keep it in there. And while yes the ewoks are goddamn annoying, you get to see alot of them die.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 510 ✭✭✭capistrano


    1. A New Hope
    2. Empire Strikes Back
    3. Return of the Jedi
    4. Revenge of the Sith
    5. Attach of the Clones
    6. Phantom Menace
    Menace come after clones just because of the dreadfully awful Jar Jar Binks and Darth Maul's make up.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 292 ✭✭Thrasher


    <Jonny> wrote:
    The whole reaquaintance with luke as a seasoned jedi.

    This would be all the more plausible, if any explanation were given as to why he should now be considered a Jedi Master. (I'm not sure if it is ever elaborated how much time has passed).

    Poor Anakin has to struggle with being a pupil for 20 years (between I and III), while Luke appears to perform a few somersaults, wave his lightsabre about a bit and declare himself a Jedi in Episode VI.

    For the time, it was great - I thoroughly enjoyed it - but if the six films are being compared now, episode VI has aged tremendously and Lucas's & McQuarry's (lack of) direction really show. The newer films (all three) have more going for them.

    But you are right, it's purely subjective - to each their own. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,284 ✭✭✭pwd


    Thrasher wrote:
    I can't believe no-one has placed Return of the Jedi last. (I would comment on the posts that have placed it first, but I am presuming that these posters haven't actually seen the film since 1983).

    Sure, it has some father versus son action at the end, but the whole thing is a mess that makes Episodes I and II look like pearls. As George Lucas puts it himself, the first half is an unecessary gap-filler and the second half is a rehash of Episode IV's ending.

    And then there are Ewoks.
    yeah but lucas went on holiday to hide in shame from the panning he was expecting for what he considered a truly awful movie when a new hope was released.
    (So i heard anyway.)
    And he made 1 and 2.
    So what does he know?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 403 ✭✭case n basket


    I can't believe anyone would put Menace above Clones. Menace is absolutely fúcking awful. Clones has less Jar-Jar, more Dooku. There can only be one winner.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,216 ✭✭✭✭monkeyfudge


    <Jonny> wrote:
    It's got a much better plot and plot structure than Clones.. which doesn't really have either. There's the Darth Maul duel.. the great opening sequence.. pod race (minus the awful commentators)...the fact that it's the first prequel... It just feels more like a proper movie.
    I agree completely. I've pretty much avoided them both since I saw them in the cinema and was disappointed by them. But I watched them just recently in the run up to Episode 3. And I found The Phantom Menace was no where near as bad as I remembered. I thought Liam Neeson's performance was wonderful and I think I've developed a Jar Jar filter in my brain.

    Attack of the Clones on the other hand was a shambles of a story. And it just wouldn't hold my interest at all. I felt Anakin in this was far more annoying than Jar Jar ever was. The romance between him and padme felt implausable considering his little facist outbrusts. Also I'm one of the people who thinks Yoda jumping about with a lightsaber is really stupid looking.

    Also, did it ever explain anymore about Seifer Dius (or whatever) who requested the clones be made? And how exactly did he pay for it? Surely a gigantic clone army is pretty expensive, did they not ask for a deposit up front? That bit of the story never seemed to go anywhere, I mean it starts out with Obi Wan playing detective, but he never really wraps up the case.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 311 ✭✭<Jonny>


    Thrasher wrote:
    This would be all the more plausible, if any explanation were given as to why he should now be considered a Jedi Master. (I'm not sure if it is ever elaborated how much time has passed).

    Well.. there's no other jedi around to burst his bubble, so he probably just promoted himself ;)

    Also I'm one of the people who thinks Yoda jumping about with a lightsaber is really stupid looking.


    Don't remind me about that :rolleyes:

    Also, did it ever explain anymore about Seifer Dius (or whatever) who requested the clones be made? And how exactly did he pay for it? Surely a gigantic clone army is pretty expensive, did they not ask for a deposit up front? That bit of the story never seemed to go anywhere, I mean it starts out with Obi Wan playing detective, but he never really wraps up the case.

    Yeah.. I was warming to the whole "OBI WAN, P.I." spiel, but then it just fizzled out along with the rest of the plot.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,084 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    5 6 3 4 2 1
    Also I'm one of the people who thinks Yoda jumping about with a lightsaber is really stupid looking.

    Oh thank god I'm not alone in that one. I want to smack everyone who replies to "attack of the clones was godawful ****e" with "but what about the cool Yoda fight scene?"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 510 ✭✭✭capistrano


    FYI - here's the order according to the ratings in IMDB.com

    1=. Hope 8.8/10
    1=. Empuire 8.8/10
    3. Sith 8.2/10
    4. Jedi 8.1/10
    5. Clones 7/10
    6. Phantom 6.4/10


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    Thrasher wrote:
    This would be all the more plausible, if any explanation were given as to why he should now be considered a Jedi Master. (I'm not sure if it is ever elaborated how much time has passed).

    Luke is a Jedi Knight, not a master in ROTJ. He doesn't become a master until some stage in the books.

    Plus his teaching would have been one-on-one with Yoda and would have been accelerated for the sake of the Galaxy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 652 ✭✭✭Jim_Are_Great


    1. RotJ - The triuphal air, The Rancor (I loves it. Don't know why though), and THAT bikini. Yea. Mm-hmm

    2. ANH - The whole thing was generally great. So much creativity and atmosphere. Jawas, Mos Eisley The very first shot of Vader, etc.

    3. ESB - Battle of Hoth, seing Yoda for the 1st time, and because of the fact that it's the darkest and bleakest Star Wars film.

    4. RotS - Some great moments. It had its flaws, but saved itself with moments like Grevious -v- Obi Wan. The execution of order 66, although not nearly long enough, was spectacular

    5. TPM - Maul. Just so excellent. The droid -v- gungan battle was great looking, if not somewhat unnecessary.

    6. AOTC - I didn't dislike it, but just didn't inspire me as often as the others. Yoda was great, as always.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,921 ✭✭✭✭Pigman II


    1. ESB
    2. ANH
    3. ROTS
    4. ROTJ
    5. TPM

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    6. AOTC .... never mind it being a bad SW movie, it's barely a SW movie to begin with! So much crap in it. Yoda doing the lightsabre, terrible dialogue, pointless droid factory scene, Bounty Hunter chase that feels like something out of James Bond, Philip Marlowe -esque dialog from Obi that keeps missing the beat, a love story that you can't buy into, tame sabre-duels, plodding plot etc etc .... :(

    (I'm glad to see many others here are rating AOTC the lowest too. It seemed to me that everyone other than myself was loving it when it came out.)


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