next door's dog keeping me awake

LegacyUser

just bought a gaf, my next door neighbour's dog pretty much barks constantly.

was going until after 4 last night, maybe longer, i just passed out in the end.

i am completly shattererd and pissed off today.

right, next door neighbour's an old geezer, i'm gonna have a word tonight.

i'm not gonna loose it or anything, i just want to know does anyone know what the law is here, noise pollution etc... just incase he's a dickhead and doesn't listen to reason.

i'm gonna suggest, putting the dog in the house at night, or sticking a muzzle on him.

so if you have any usefull advice, i'd appriciate it.

i dont want it to turn into one of those neighbour from hell fiasco's, but i won't let this 5hit stand.

Zombienosh

well I think first off, just mention it to him but like you said don't lose the head or anything just calmly ask can he bring his dog in at night etc etc. and see what he says to that.

Firewalkwithme

I just had to give my own dog away last week because of this. We couldn't let him sleep inside either because he knew how to open the internal doors in the house. Anyway, as far as I know, you can call the County Council about it because it's noise pollution. They'll send someone out and might take a measurement of the noise level. As you said yourself though, you might be better off trying the diplomatic approach with your neighbour first.

The Bollox

or you could get a bigger, meaner and louder dog of your own, even better is if you borrowed it of a friends for a bit, then say you'll get rid of your dog if he gets rid of his, problem solved!

Tobias Greeshman

Yep definately try the calm diplomatic approach first, and if this guy won't see to common decency and sense. Then set the County Council on him as Despatch said!

skywalker

Despatch wrote:

I just had to give my own dog away last week because of this. We couldn't let him sleep inside either because he knew how to open the internal doors in the house. Anyway, as far as I know, you can call the County Council about it because it's noise pollution. They'll send someone out and might take a measurement of the noise level. As you said yourself though, you might be better off trying the diplomatic approach with your neighbour first.

You know you can get dog proof handles that go from | to - as opposed to - to |. not sure if that was explained well. but their normal state is straight up.

LegacyUser

i'll be diplomatic tonight, and if he doesn't play ball, i'll get on to the county council.

i'll prob give em a ring now to see where i stand.

DrIndy

Feed it sleeping tablets hidden in bits of meat.....

On a more serious note, be aware that you are not the only person with the problem, the dog probably keeps all your neighbour up at night. If you need back up in reporting the problem, it would do no harm to talk to them too....

MorningStar

I'd talk to the neighbour you know the most first and ask them do they have a problem too. If you are just new to the area and start complaining about somebody who has been there a long time you might be right but come accross very baddly to everybody else.
There are lots of solutions ranging from anti-bark collar to keeping the dog in.

Somebody complained about my dogs and I made a real effort and sorted it all out but when I moved the dogs started going crazy over church bells. I can't stop the bells so I can't stop the dogs when I am not there! I could complain about the church bells but I know that won't make me popular. Church bells by the way are not exempt from noise polution.

LegacyUser

ye i'm new, but i still need to sleep. dog is right under my window, and i've single glazzing.

i think this complaint is completly warrented. i just hope he's reasonable.

anti bark coller, v interesting, to google with me!!

MorningStar wrote:

I'd talk to the neighbour you know the most first and ask them do they have a problem too. If you are just new to the area and start complaining about somebody who has been there a long time you might be right but come accross very baddly to everybody else.
There are lots of solutions ranging from anti-bark collar to keeping the dog in.

Somebody complained about my dogs and I made a real effort and sorted it all out but when I moved the dogs started going crazy over church bells. I can't stop the bells so I can't stop the dogs when I am not there! I could complain about the church bells but I know that won't make me popular. Church bells by the way are not exempt from noise polution.

LegacyUser

i'd say the dog's pissed off from being cooped up. maybe i could offer to take him for a walk.

otherwise........

http://www.placervillevet.com/barking.htm

MorningStar

paperclip wrote:

ye i'm new, but i still need to sleep. dog is right under my window, and i've single glazzing.

i think this complaint is completly warrented. i just hope he's reasonable.

anti bark coller, v interesting, to google with me!!

It doesn't matter if you are right the other neighbours might think you are being unreasonable. If anybody has being doing something for a long time before a new person comes along and the new person complains I think you might really annoy people. The same goes the other way people will not rush over to complian if you are new and doing something people are not happy with. They will leave it a few weeks at the least. It really depends on how long you are there. If you have been there anything less than a month I would think you are unreasonable. It is also very easy to upset an old man if you complain about his only companion. You need to talk to him about it at some point not "complain".

LegacyUser

have you even read my posts? i said i'd be diplomatic, maybe even offer to take the dog for a walk, i get the impression the dog is distressed, and rarely leaves the back garden.

i dont think this is unreasonable at all.

if i was playing loud music until the wee hours, i'd expect both neighbours to complain.

if other neighbours are willing to put up with it, thats up to them, maybe they've double glazing and don't hear it.

i'm not doing this to be an asshole.

i refuse to be kept awake in this manor, when it can be avoided, it's as simple as that.

MorningStar wrote:

It doesn't matter if you are right the other neighbours might think you are being unreasonable. If anybody has being doing something for a long time before a new person comes along and the new person complains I think you might really annoy people. The same goes the other way people will not rush over to complian if you are new and doing something people are not happy with. They will leave it a few weeks at the least. It really depends on how long you are there. If you have been there anything less than a month I would think you are unreasonable. It is also very easy to upset an old man if you complain about his only companion. You need to talk to him about it at some point not "complain".

bringitdown

Just maybe hold off on complaining until after the house-warming dude!

MorningStar

paperclip wrote:

i dont think this is unreasonable at all.

i'm not doing this to be an asshole.

I know what you are saying and I understand. It doesn't matter if you think you are being reasonable other people might not think you are. It might only be symantics but your posts don't sound like you will be diplomatic.

paperclip wrote:

i refuse to be kept awake in this manor, when it can be avoided, it's as simple as that.

I haven't said anything harsh to you so dealing with an old man who might be a little upset I don't hold out much hope. I was giving you some friendly advise and you aren't being reasonable in return. You may have to put up with the dog a lot longer with that attitude and the other neighbours might dislike you

Keyzer

Buy an airgun and shoot the mutt everytime he barks, that'll learn him...

Firewalkwithme

Paperclip - Another thing to consider is that this old man probably sees the dog as a form of security and would be reluctant to let him go if it came down to it. You could use that as a bargaining tool just by putting that thought in his head particularly if he has had the dog for a long time. He may be more likely to do something about the barking himself if he thought there was a chance of losing the dog.

landser

MorningStar wrote:

I haven't said anything harsh to you so dealing with an old man who might be a little upset I don't hold out much hope. I was giving you some friendly advise and you aren't being reasonable in return. You may have to put up with the dog a lot longer with that attitude and the other neighbours might dislike you

the same way you've endeared yourself to your neighbours.... not my fault love, it's them bleedin church bells...
maybe you should give away your own dogs a la the poster supra

there's nothing worse than a noisy dog.. the old git next door to you could be as deaf as a post and can't hear him... i wouldn't be too worried about taking away his only companion, if he liked the dog that much, he keep him indoors

MorningStar

landser wrote:

the same way you've endeared yourself to your neighbours.... not my fault love, it's them bleedin church bells...
maybe you should give away your own dogs a la the poster supra

there's nothing worse than a noisy dog.. the old git next door to you could be as deaf as a post and can't hear him... i wouldn't be too worried about taking away his only companion, if he liked the dog that much, he keep him indoors

The dogs bark while there is noise (bells) and then stop. It only happens when the wind blows a particular way too. The bells are the problem what are they for, people have clocks and watches now?

There are many things worse than a barking dog I don't even need to list them it's just an overblown statement. Just because somebody keeps their dog outside doesn't mean anything. Why not have some compasion just because he's old doesn't make him a git. People who can't empathize are deserving of that title.

Paddy20

I know how annoying a dog barking all day and night next door is like,it's pure hell ! .

As for complaining to the local County Council ?... I tried that. A bloody waste of time.

I even complained to the local Environmental Health Officer's attached to the Health Board, and a thicker bunch of idiot's I have yet too meet.

So, at the moment I am considering taking a civil action in the local district court against the lot of them!, as in law afaik:- " I am entitled to the quiet peaceful un- interrupted enjoyment of my own home ".

All my complaint's were in writing, yet not one damn Civil servant is prepared to enforce the law ?....

P.

Firewalkwithme

Paddy20 wrote:

I know how annoying a dog barking all day and night next door is like,it's pure hell ! .

As for complaining to the local County Council ?... I tried that. A bloody waste of time.

I even complained to the local Environmental Health Officer's attached to the Health Board, and a thicker bunch of idiot's I have yet too meet.

So, at the moment I am considering taking a civil action in the local district court against the lot of them!, as in law afaik:- " I am entitled to the quiet peaceful un- interrupted enjoyment of my own home ".

All my complaint's were in writing, yet not one damn Civil servant is prepared to enforce the law ?....

P.

Have you tried contacting a local councilor or TD? They could help you get the ball rolling.

Barrie

The old man probaly hasnt the energy to walk it,So offering to walk the dog might resolve the problem and getting on his good side(And the dogs too)

Or maybe becuase your new and he is trying to suss you out?

Paddy20

Unfortunately, I live in the backwood's of Donegal, and our local County Councillor's and T.D.'s are a bunch of ineffective lazy ignorant arse licker's, who would be served up as dogmeat if I had my way.

That may read as though it is a bit harsh, but I live in Ballybofey and have a lot of knowledge of our politician's as I ran the Citizen's Advice Bureaux for very many years, and we were a lot busier than any politician's clinic! :rolleyes: .

Thank's for the advice anyway Despatch

P.

N.B. Welcome to the real modern Ireland !...

LegacyUser

Despatch wrote:

you can call the County Council about it because it's noise pollution. They'll send someone out and might take a measurement of the noise level.

Thats bull!! My next door neighbors alarm was going off each night at 5am waking me up. I was in absolute bits going into work in the morning and Fingal County Council did absolutely nothing for me!
Sometimes they don't even answer the phone! I was actually shocked!!

There is a dog in the house a few doors down, in the beginning i used to notice it barking - but now I'm used to it. Search for my thread in the Rec/Pets forum. There are 2-3 dogs in the houses surrounding my house, and at this stage I'll only wake maybe once a month becuase of it, which isn't too bad. I actually feel so sorry for those animals stuck in gardens all day and night - obviously frustrated.

For all you house owners out there with alarms and dogs, making noise at night. I know you can hear .. so stop being selfish and respect your neighbours a bit!! Bring your dog to lessons or something, find out what the issue is. And get your friggin alarms serviced before you go off leaving your house for weeks on end with an alarm going off. the rest of us have to live too.

And i am actually quite a give and take personality - but I understand completely what this guy is talking about.

LegacyUser

bubby wrote:

There is a dog in the house a few doors down, in the beginning i used to notice it barking - but now I'm used to it

i agree, but this dog is nearly under my window.

LegacyUser

good point

bringitdown wrote:

Just maybe hold off on complaining until after the house-warming dude!

TerrorFirmer

Lol.....why is this in "Shop" forum?

Shouldn't it be in AF?

Anyway, I sympathise with your situation. But good suggestions so far, hope they work out for you!

Headshot

i had a problem with 2 dogs little feckers. i was going to to talk to the owner but guess what,he drove over 1 of his own dogs,now that was a good day

LegacyUser

MorningStar wrote:

I haven't said anything harsh to you so dealing with an old man who might be a little upset I don't hold out much hope. I was giving you some friendly advise and you aren't being reasonable in return

i'm not being reasonable?, i'm not sure how you came to this conclusion.

i've been kept awake because of a neighbours dog, and now i'm gonna have a word.......... what's unreasonable about that.

i understand i may be comming accross a little irate, maybe if you had to put up with this you'd see it in a different light.

you also seem to have created this poor helpless little old man, for all we know he's a bitter twised old todger.

myself, i'm gonna reseveve judgement until i talk to him.

Stark

You'll actually get used to it. We've dogs on both sides of us that have barking matches all night. (Some other dogs join in but they're far away so you don't really hear them). Had about a week of no sleep, but now it never bothers me.

Not that the little bastards don't deserve a few rounds from a pellet gun. Mmmm, gotta get me a pellet gun, give them something to bark about...

Supercell

If worst comes to the worst why not just get some ear plugs..

The little yellow foam ones are about 60 cents in my local chemist and are washable so i just wair a different pair every night, had to start using them after a couple movied in the flat above me ..
Well they are loud a lot of the time (talking loudly, stomping about, watching movies..and the other things young couples do..) and was seriously going nuts with lack of sleep..rent is a good price and am saving for a mortgage so had to find an alternative solution.

Honestly after a few nights its just fine..just set the alarm louder in the mornings ..for me its sweet revenge !!

LegacyUser

paperclip wrote:

i agree, but this dog is nearly under my window.

Our houses are small - so may as well be under my window, especially when they all join in! I'd suggest earplugs for a few weeks. See how it goes.

I'm not here long either and understand the concerns raised here in that regard. As a new person in an estate there is lots to get used to.

MorningStar

paperclip wrote:

i'm not being reasonable?, i'm not sure how you came to this conclusion.

i've been kept awake because of a neighbours dog, and now i'm gonna have a word.......... what's unreasonable about that.

i understand i may be comming accross a little irate, maybe if you had to put up with this you'd see it in a different light.

you also seem to have created this poor helpless little old man, for all we know he's a bitter twised old todger.

myself, i'm gonna reseveve judgement until i talk to him.

I quoated where you came accross as unreasonable. You didn't say you were going to have a word you said you were going to "complain" not talk and that you "refuse" to to put up with this as opposed to try and come up with a solution. That does not sound like you are going to talk nice to this man. It could be symantics but it seems to be more.
I don't assume this guy is nice as I have always said it "might" be his only companion and he "might" get upset. While others called him (including you)a "geezer" and "git" which are derogatory terms which means you haven't reserved judgement.
Again you might think you are being reasonable but what you siad so far doesn't come accross as if you will be.
It sounds like you want to do the right thing and suggesting walking the dog and waiting till you have a house warming are all suggestions you seem to have taken on board. Lack of sleep can really make people a little gruff so it's fair enough. Ear plugs are a really good idea for temporary relief as already mentioned. Get the re-usable ones as the wet ones feel horrible, ear plugs are great for airplane rides too.

onion-ring

I just got a dog (2 months now) and theres a pattern, if we don't walk her, she's wide awake all night.
she's 99% of the time quite as a lamb but last night she was going balistic so I went down to her and there was a bloody hedgehog in the garden. So I locked her in the shed problem solved..
I moved house years ago partly because of a dog across the road, I had rang the dog wardens and stuff, it was a waste of time.
I did toy with the idea of poisoning the neighbours dog and to be honest if faced with the same situation again I would poison the dog rather than have me head recked all night.
send him a note with no name,,
ONE MORE NIGHT AND THE DOG GETS IT :cool:

LegacyUser

your honour, i move for a recess

MorningStar wrote:

I quoated where you came accross as unreasonable. You didn't say you were going to have a word you said you were going to "complain" not talk and that you "refuse" to to put up with this as opposed to try and come up with a solution. That does not sound like you are going to talk nice to this man. It could be symantics but it seems to be more.
I don't assume this guy is nice as I have always said it "might" be his only companion and he "might" get upset. While others called him (including you)a "geezer" and "git" which are derogatory terms which means you haven't reserved judgement.
Again you might think you are being reasonable but what you siad so far doesn't come accross as if you will be.
It sounds like you want to do the right thing and suggesting walking the dog and waiting till you have a house warming are all suggestions you seem to have taken on board. Lack of sleep can really make people a little gruff so it's fair enough. Ear plugs are a really good idea for temporary relief as already mentioned. Get the re-usable ones as the wet ones feel horrible, ear plugs are great for airplane rides too.

LegacyUser

dog finished up barking about midnight!

he wasn't there when i got home, so i'd say owner took him out for a walk.

i'll see how it goes, i'm sure he'll be kicking off again, i'll have a word after the housewarming.

[QUOTE=onion-ringif we don't walk her, she's wide awake all night[/QUOTE]

vibe666

explain that it's keeping ypou awake all night and offer to get a mountain bike and offer to take the dog for a walk with that!

couple of miles pulling you along the street and it'll be as quiet as a lamb.

or, a nice bit of steak with chilli and a large dose of laxatives in it. then when (if ever) it's finished crapping and it still want's to bark, shoot it in the ring with a pellet gun and it'll shut up quick smart.

MorningStar

paperclip wrote:

your honour, i move for a recess

Well more proof that you probably won't be able to talk sensible to the man in question.
Realistically your only option is to have this man agree to do something about it. People have already commented here that the law won't be inforced so you better get it right.
You are obviously not very good at thinking about consequences as has been proved by the fact you bought a house and never even bothered looking at the planning permission on your road. Instead you assumed something on what is probably the biggest purchase of you life. Your house may now end up in negative equity :eek:
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=254609

Your next mission if you choose to accept it is to alienate yourself among the neighbours :rolleyes:

P.S.
Anybody seriously suggesting killing the dog is an idiot.

LegacyUser

what's your problem?

why are you under the impression that i'm going in all gun's blazzing?

MorningStar wrote:

Well more proof that you probably won't be able to talk sensible to the man in question.
Realistically your only option is to have this man agree to do something about it. People have already commented here that the law won't be inforced so you better get it right.
You are obviously not very good at thinking about consequences as has been proved by the fact you bought a house and never even bothered looking at the planning permission on your road. Instead you assumed something on what is probably the biggest purchase of you life. Your house may now end up in negative equity :eek:
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=254609

Your next mission if you choose to accept it is to alienate yourself among the neighbours :rolleyes:

P.S.
Anybody seriously suggesting killing the dog is an idiot.

MorningStar

paperclip wrote:

what's your problem?

why are you under the impression that i'm going in all gun's blazzing?

I already explained why you don't sound reasonable( read it again) and your comments have suggested you won't be

paperclip wrote:

i refuse to be kept awake in this manor, when it can be avoided, it's as simple as that.

Not the words or a reasonable man

LegacyUser

ye, this is the worst i've ever heard, it's like a machine, i really think the dog might be insane.

i hope i don't have to go to the council etc... i just hope he's reasonable.

Paddy20 wrote:

I know how annoying a dog barking all day and night next door is like,it's pure hell ! .

NewFrockTuesday

Originally Posted by paperclip
i refuse to be kept awake in this manor, when it can be avoided, it's as simple as that.

Yes.....Your a madman i tells ya!!!
MS - what are yoiu on, seriously? the guy doesnt want to be kept awake all night by some hound thats being left out the yard by some doddery old neightbour. just cos hes not dressing his lingo in some "peace to all" pc lingo, doesnt mean hes storming around to the oul fellas gaff looking for fistis.

ear plugs are great for airplane rides too

Soda water, if gotten to the stain early enough will prevent the full impact of the stain taking hold on the garment. The fat cat jumps over the fence.

Johnny Storm

Paperclip,


Very interesting thread, I just came accross it while it was on teh "latest posts" at the front of borads.

Just IMHO If I had lived in a house for many years and new neighbours moved in I would be severely unimpressed if the first time I met that new neighbour they were at my door complaining about something no matter how reasonable it was from their point of view. I would not be inclined to be helpful or co-operative. In fact personally I would go out of my way to do teh opposite of what they wanted, but maybe that's just me......

My opinion is you need to plan to make two visits to your neighbour:
1) A get-to-know-you mission. Drop in maybe with a gift, introduce yourself, find out a bit about the old guy, maybe there's something you can do for him, dont even mention the dog, (unless you can get a clear shot at him of course LOL)
2) Next time you see him, explain about the dog thing and ask for his help in solving the problem

Presumeably you may be living there for many years to come, so IMHO, its worth taking the trouble to try and stay on reasonable terms with teh neighbours while at the same time seeing what can be done about the dog...

LegacyUser

MorningStar wrote:

Not the words or a reasonable man

are you for real!

"i refuse to be kept awake in this manor"

you've obviously never been kept up all night by a dog barking, this pisses most people off, lack of sleep, they'll be a bit more ratty the next day, or maybe you have and you're a modern day saint.

so ye, i wasn't in the best of moods, if you read my full post, instead of a bit of selective reading you'll see the general jist was that i wanted to sort this out reasonably, but if he wasn't gonna play ball i'd like to know where i stand.

"i'm not gonna loose it or anything, i just want to know does anyone know what the law is here, noise pollution etc... just incase he's a dickhead and doesn't listen to reason"

LegacyUser

good point

i'm there just over a month now, and i'm not planning on calling in, barking orders.

what you're saying makes sence, but you'd have a different perspective after a night of it.

i can't afford to walk around like a zombie, i'll wait another week or two, and have a word.

i dont wanna tip toe around the issue, and i will be reasonable.

i mean, if i moved in with a noisy dog, and after a month, my neighbour called in and said he can't get to sleep, and he was decent enough about it, i'm not gonna consider him my new enemy.

Johnny Storm wrote:

Paperclip,


Very interesting thread, I just came accross it while it was on teh "latest posts" at the front of borads.

Just IMHO If I had lived in a house for many years and new neighbours moved in I would be severely unimpressed if the first time I met that new neighbour they were at my door complaining about something no matter how reasonable it was from their point of view. I would not be inclined to be helpful or co-operative. In fact personally I would go out of my way to do teh opposite of what they wanted, but maybe that's just me......

My opinion is you need to plan to make two visits to your neighbour:
1) A get-to-know-you mission. Drop in maybe with a gift, introduce yourself, find out a bit about the old guy, maybe there's something you can do for him, dont even mention the dog, (unless you can get a clear shot at him of course LOL)
2) Next time you see him, explain about the dog thing and ask for his help in solving the problem

Presumeably you may be living there for many years to come, so IMHO, its worth taking the trouble to try and stay on reasonable terms with teh neighbours while at the same time seeing what can be done about the dog...

NewFrockTuesday

Just IMHO If I had lived in a house for many years and new neighbours moved in I would be severely unimpressed if the first time I met that new neighbour they were at my door complaining about something no matter how reasonable it was from their point of view. I would not be inclined to be helpful or co-operative. In fact personally I would go out of my way to do teh opposite of what they wanted, but maybe that's just me......

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
Im glad I dont live beside you!!!
You mean to tell me that if your dog was being a neighbourhood nusiance and one of your neighbs called in (in a very civilised manner) and asked you to take care a problem originating from your house, you would be offended?
I completly agree about helping in any way to slove the issue but to shy away till he happens to meet him...thats .....im lost for words.
Why should he live in misery just because hes new in the area?

MorningStar

paperclip wrote:

are you for real!

"i refuse to be kept awake in this manor"

you've obviously never been kept up all night by a dog barking, this pisses most people off, lack of sleep, they'll be a bit more ratty the next day, or maybe you have and you're a modern day saint.

so ye, i wasn't in the best of moods, if you read my full post, instead of a bit of selective reading you'll see the general jist was that i wanted to sort this out reasonably, but if he wasn't gonna play ball i'd like to know where i stand.

As I said read my posts I read yours I only quote that bits that prove a point to quote unlike newbie posters who quoates everything.. You used derogatory terms about the man because he is old. You couldn't even stay polite to me when I was giving you friendly advise and warning you no matter what you do could appear to be the bad guy. If you plan on living there you should see if everybody else is bothered and what they have done as per my original post. A refusal to do anything does not make somebody open to discussion. All those things don't sound like you are going to be polite to the man that has responsibility for your lack of sleep.
I have been kept awake by a lot worse things than a dog barking by the way. You never fear the dog is going to actually break into the house and hurt you so you know there are a lot worse things than a barking dog keeping you awake.
I hope you solve the problem and everybody is happy with the solution but if he is a the neighbourhood problem do you think you are going to solve it in a month? So either you are the problem or you won't get him to do anything

RainyDay

See Dept of Environment details on Noise Pollution including link to District Court complaint form.

NewFrockTuesday

So either you are the problem or you won't get him to do anything

Fat frogs dont eat ham on foggy days.

LegacyUser

ok

MorningStar wrote:

As I said read my posts I read yours I only quote that bits that prove a point to quote unlike newbie posters who quoates everything.. You used derogatory terms about the man because he is old. You couldn't even stay polite to me when I was giving you friendly advise and warning you no matter what you do could appear to be the bad guy. If you plan on living there you should see if everybody else is bothered and what they have done as per my original post. A refusal to do anything does not make somebody open to discussion. All those things don't sound like you are going to be polite to the man that has responsibility for your lack of sleep.
I have been kept awake by a lot worse things than a dog barking by the way. You never fear the dog is going to actually break into the house and hurt you so you know there are a lot worse things than a barking dog keeping you awake.
I hope you solve the problem and everybody is happy with the solution but if he is a the neighbourhood problem do you think you are going to solve it in a month? So either you are the problem or you won't get him to do anything

Dont Ban Me

Just shoot the dog, pay a fine and get it over with! Seems pretty simple to me!!