Do you Deja Vu?

Chavster

First time on this board so apologies if this has already been discussed. For a lot of people deja vu is a vague notion that they've already done something or been somewhere before. However deja vu to me is the recollection of a dream. It's quite hard to put into words but they are the best i can come up with.

For example, i was visiting friends in the UK not long ago and i got the deja vu feeling and for about 10secs or so i knew what was going to happen (nothing major, knew who was going to say what and when) i also knew that i'd had a dream previously where the same things had happened. Just for the record I'd never been to this house before and had never even met one of the guys that were there.

Now i'm not claiming to be a clairvoyant or psychic as i don't know about it until it's happening. I'd be interested to know if anyone else has similar experiences of this or am i just nuts?

Talliesin

Yep. Happens plenty. Stictly speaking once you've remembered the dream it's no longer déjà vu, since to be déjà vu it has to be inexplicable.

stevenmu

Chavster wrote:

First time on this board so apologies if this has already been discussed.

It's been discussed few times before, I'll try and avoid the temptation of making some obvious puns The easiest way to find threads where it has already come up is at the main paranormal page, click 'Search This Forum' near the top right and put in 'Deja'.

Chavster wrote:

Now i'm not claiming to be a clairvoyant or psychic as i don't know about it until it's happening. I'd be interested to know if anyone else has similar experiences of this or am i just nuts?

I get the same thing (except I'm not so sure that it's a dream that I'm 'remembering'). I certainly don't rule out the possibility that I'm nuts, sometimes I even think it's pretty likely . Have a read of the other threads though and you'll see that there's a few others in pretty much the same boat, and there's potentially many others out there who don't find there way here.

LostinBlanch

Why did I know you were going to post that :rolleyes:

bp_me

Chavster wrote:

Now i'm not claiming to be a clairvoyant or psychic as i don't know about it until it's happening. I'd be interested to know if anyone else has similar experiences of this or am i just nuts?

Maybe once or twice a year. Odd feeling I find.

chebe

All the time. Sometimes it's really strong and I can even remember what I thought waking up from having the dream I am now living. If that makes any sense.

Zillah

Our universe is nothing more than a great interdimensional RPG experience. Spirit people choose to role play a human character, some might choose peasant for the experience of it, others might go with king. When we die their part of the game is over and they return to their intergallactic life.

Deja vu is clearly a glitch of some sort.

Talliesin

Zillah wrote:

Spirit people choose to role play a human character, some might choose peasant for the experience of it, others might go with king.

An awful lot seem to play being born into a poor family in a Third World country and dying in infancy. They must really like that one.

Zillah

Alright, so there's a still a few kinks in the theory...

...um, I have faith!!! Haha catch 22!!

judi

Deja Vu happens to me quite a lot. i would not assoicate it with a dream i would of had tho. for me its more like reliving a situation which has already occured. it is a very weird feeling when it happens and i mostly find myself wondering where and when has this happened before??

Dale

judi wrote:

Deja Vu happens to me quite a lot. i would not assoicate it with a dream i would of had tho. for me its more like reliving a situation which has already occured. it is a very weird feeling when it happens and i mostly find myself wondering where and when has this happened before??

I have a lot of this Déjá Vu stuff still, and it has frit me a few times, as 2 deaths, a car accident and a miscarriage. Those are the bad things. ¬_¬ I'm like a fortune teller

chillywilly

personally, i dont think it is dream related...but then again i have not explanation for it!! :eek:

Kernel

chillywilly wrote:

personally, i dont think it is dream related...but then again i have not explanation for it!! :eek:

As I've mentioned before people, deja vu has been studied using fMRI scans, and the conclusion that science has come up with (which is plausible) is that deja vu results from neurons cross-firing into the wrong area of the brain, so the part of your brain which is dealing with the present and the part of your brain dealing with the past are mixed up for a moment. That's why you feel like what you are doing at that moment is something you have done before.

Either that or it's a glitch in the matrix.

bp_me

Kernel wrote:

As I've mentioned before people, deja vu has been studied using fMRI scans, and the conclusion that science has come up with (which is plausible) is that deja vu results from neurons cross-firing into the wrong area of the brain, so the part of your brain which is dealing with the present and the part of your brain dealing with the past are mixed up for a moment. That's why you feel like what you are doing at that moment is something you have done before.

Either that or it's a glitch in the matrix.

I think I would go with the glitch in the matrix idea......remember though, there is no spoon (no reality in all in fact, except what we make of it)

tinkerbell

I have experienced Deja Vu a few times. Two particular occasions stand out - I watched two separate movies a few years ago just after they came out on video, and I could tell exactly what was gonna happen next throughout the whole film. It was really weird, it was years ago, I hadn't seen either film in the cinema either, and they weren't remakes of anything ... odd

Talliesin

tinkerbell wrote:

I watched two separate movies a few years ago just after they came out on video, and I could tell exactly what was gonna happen next throughout the whole film.

Predictable scriptwriting?

tinkerbell

Hehe, no they were both kinda odd movies, I was able to tell exactly what was going on, when I first switched on the films, really odd!

stevenmu

Was Donnie Darko one of them ?

WhiteWashMan

i cant recall where i got this from, but as far as im aware, deja vu comes delayed recognition from your input sensors.

in other words, something happens, you get a spilt second delay, and then you register, so it appears that you have just heard or seen whatever before.

so while your subconscious has registered something, the conscious is delayed, giving you the vaguley uneasy feeling that you have witnessed something before.

its pretty simple really.

now, if you are talking precognition, thats something else entirely....

chebe

WhiteWashMan wrote:

in other words, something happens, you get a spilt second delay, and then you register, so it appears that you have just heard or seen whatever before.

so while your subconscious has registered something, the conscious is delayed, giving you the vaguley uneasy feeling that you have witnessed something before.

Okay, that might cover the vague feeling of having done something before, but what when everything is in detail, when you remember when you first 'did' it, and even sometimes can 'see' more into the future?

tinkerbell

stevenmu wrote:

Was Donnie Darko one of them ?

No, I can't even remember the names of the films to be honest, but it was a good few years ago, the movies weren't that good anyway!

Kernel

chebe wrote:

Okay, that might cover the vague feeling of having done something before, but what when everything is in detail, when you remember when you first 'did' it, and even sometimes can 'see' more into the future?

It's just the mysterious human brain playing tricks on you. Your consciousness is a direct product of your brain.

lemon_sherbert

For me, it usually hits me mid-blink, or just after opening my eyes. there's a second of confusion, and then for a few moments I feel like an outside observer sitting in my body following the situation, and sometimes I know what's going to happen. longest it's ever lasted was 40 minutes though, probably just kidding myself, i'm inclined to believe the neuron theory from above.

chebe

Kernel wrote:

Your consciousness is a direct product of your brain.

I'm sorry but I don't know what you mean. Are you saying our consciousness is entirely determined by the physical make-up of our brains? Personally I'd be more likely to believe that deja vu is brought about when for an instant our brains break out of their 3-dimensional, linear-time restrictions. It's jumbled because it's unusal and outside our normal scope.

kjt

WhiteWashMan wrote:

i cant recall where i got this from, but as far as im aware, deja vu comes delayed recognition from your input sensors.
in other words, something happens, you get a spilt second delay, and then you register, so it appears that you have just heard or seen whatever before.
so while your subconscious has registered something, the conscious is delayed, giving you the vaguley uneasy feeling that you have witnessed something before.

its pretty simple really.
now, if you are talking precognition, thats something else entirely....

I've heard that many times before too.
I used to get Deja-vu alot, like twice a week for about a month or two. This was about two years back, I havent gotten it at all the past year and I kind of miss it.

It was a strange outter-body experience.

Zillah

kjt wrote:

It was a strange outter-body experience.

The phrase is "out of body experience".

Chebe wrote:

Are you saying our consciousness is entirely determined by the physical make-up of our brains?

And what else would determine our conciousness?

Personally I'd be more likely to believe that deja vu is brought about when for an instant our brains break out of their 3-dimensional, linear-time restrictions. It's jumbled because it's unusal and outside our normal scope.

Strange then how its always a sense that we've done something before. Surely if we were occasioanlly breaking out of our linear time contraints it would occasionally maybe do something a bit more interesting, like give us visions of the future or a view of out own deaths etc.

Sure some people claim to see visions of the future but they are extremely uncommon, whereas everyone gets deja vu now and then. Also, no one has ever convincingly predicted the future.

Megatron

I've had a good few of them thingys.

A few i copped on quick enough to stop it from happening ( NO Exloding the universe on my watch).

The most striking was in a pub with some friends, I knew some one was about to drop a empty pint glass a table across ( i had my back to it) i turn quickly and caught it as it was falling.

I must say i felt very very strange for most of the night.

and another thing , I'm usualy tired when i get them. So i usualy just put it down to that

stormkeeper

I had a feeling of deja vu when a person was talking to someone about something, and I seemed to recall it being talked about before... It was wierd...

stevenmu

Zillah wrote:

Strange then how its always a sense that we've done something before. Surely if we were occasioanlly breaking out of our linear time contraints it would occasionally maybe do something a bit more interesting, like give us visions of the future or a view of out own deaths etc.

One view of deja-vu is that you're remembering a previous prediction of an event, as that event is happening or about to happen, so in that sense it is a kind of vision of the future. Unfortunatly in the case of our own deaths we wouldn't remember the vision untill it was about to happen so there wouldn't be much practical use for it

arrietty

I've been having a lot of déja vu moments over the past year or so. At first they had that sort of... weird lurching/fear feeling, like your head's just gone through a timewarp. Or a blender. I don't get that feeling any more, solely the recognition.

I'm not really convinced either way about the scientific versus the paranormal explanations. The various theories about wires getting crossed in your brain are fairly persuasive, but at the same time I have definitely been able to predict happenings for a few seconds while experiencing déja vu. (Although, of course, that might just be my wires getting further crossed... :rolleyes: )

Personally, I think it is something to do with physical brain chemistry, but (still speaking personally) that doesn't mean there's nothing further to it. Why should I have déja vu at certain moments and not at others? I think I might start keeping track of incidents to see if there's some kind of pattern, although it's the kind of project it's hard to keep up.

Oh - and does anyone think there's much of a connection between déja vu and smoking dope? I've quit now but in the past I've smoked a lot, and (especially when it was the super-strong Sydney hydroponic stuff) I've had waves of déja vu lasting hours. The first time it happened I was quite weirded out (also, I thought I was going to die... proven wrong, though) and I did manage to think ahead about an hour, and visualise the inside of a bar I'd never visited before.
But in a purely mundane way, dope really can screw with your brain chemistry, and I wonder if anyone knows anything more. Any similar experiences? Might explain some aspects.

Zillah

stevenmu wrote:

Unfortunatly in the case of our own deaths we wouldn't remember the vision untill it was about to happen so there wouldn't be much practical use for it

Duck!

stevenmu

... right into the path of a passing rock which otherwise would have just clipped your shoulder ?

arietty wrote:

Oh - and does anyone think there's much of a connection between déja vu and smoking dope? I've quit now but in the past I've smoked a lot, and (especially when it was the super-strong Sydney hydroponic stuff) I've had waves of déja vu lasting hours. The first time it happened I was quite weirded out (also, I thought I was going to die... proven wrong, though) and I did manage to think ahead about an hour, and visualise the inside of a bar I'd never visited before.
But in a purely mundane way, dope really can screw with your brain chemistry, and I wonder if anyone knows anything more. Any similar experiences? Might explain some aspects.

I'm not sure about that, it used to happen to me more before I ever started, still happened quite a bit when I only smoked the odd time, and hardly ever when I smoked pretty regularly. I haven't smoked it in probably about a year at this stage and ti still hardly ever happens but I think slightly more than when I was smoking a lot, and it kind of happens in bursts, maybe two or three times in as many days and then nothing for a month or two. I don't know if there's enough there to form a pattern, with such a small sample (i.e. just me) it's impossible to tell.

Either way, I'd never recommend someone smoke dope, I'd especially recommend not to do it much, if something "funny" happens, it's too hard to distinguish how much of it is caused by chemicals and how much is genuinely "funny". And of course everything is hugely signifigant when you're stoned

Feownah

Had it just the other day , get it for about 10 secs...something is just familiar...its a kind of nice feeling..ure awre of it..i feel a bit fuzzy headed...strange thing that so many ppl get it.

Zillah

Feownah wrote:

Had it just the other day , get it for about 10 secs...something is just familiar...its a kind of nice feeling..ure awre of it..i feel a bit fuzzy headed...strange thing that so many ppl get it.

Why is it strange that so many people get it? Deja Vu is different to supposed premonitions. Deja Vu is just a sensation. Premonition is sensing the future.

Tar.Aldarion

deja vu,ya get that a hell of a lot..
the best case was when i randomly,during a conversation,i realised what the guys next few sentences were in my mind and sure enough...
maybe thats just crappy preminition though

THE DUDE.......

Feownah wrote:

Had it just the other day , get it for about 10 secs...something is just familiar...its a kind of nice feeling..ure awre of it..i feel a bit fuzzy headed...strange thing that so many ppl get it.

so thats what that is!cool,i thought i was just going mad (which cud be happening anyway,i dont know). only difference is
that i can get that feeling for a couple of minutes and i dont like it when i know that i have to let it go

THE DUDE.......

wait now,ive been looking at other threads,wot im having may not be deja vu....................