WWII Combatives or Similar

Millionaire

Hi Guys

Is there anyone in Ireland doing Combatives Military hand to hand stuff. WWII combatives groups etc.

Ok I do krava maga as most regulars on here would know.

Just wondering is there any other groups out there doing their own stuff.

Heard somewhere that Denis Martin (one of the top combatives instructors in europe) was supposed to be doing a seminare here, but it fell through or something????

Dyr

see the sayoc seminar thread, they call their military curriculum sayoc tactical but i dont think the public get to train in it. The regular stuff is still what you'd call combative though

Millionaire

whats their web site till I have a look.

99% of combatives stuff from what I seen so far is very similar.

was just wondering was there anyone else out there.

Dyr

sayoc.com suprisingly . dunno if you'll find much info there on the military stuff

Millionaire

thats a good site, I ll go over that when I have more time.

There is a Combatives camp in July away way up in north sweden. all top instructors going. 4 days hand to han , knife, stick, and fire arms training on last day.

I am thinking of going myself if I can fit it in. it looks like a good camp. and the guys going are the real deal

pma-ire

Musashi is mad into WWII Combatives!!

If it's out there he'll know!!

Musashi

Millionaire,
I've not come across any "pure" combatives groups in Ireland.Krav is probably as close as you'll get really!Best to ask Mr. Comiskey about Kapap and Lotar for the blade and guns elements of combative application for Israeli styles.AFAIK, Krav is basically the unarmed segment of these two, and Jim Wagner is mates with Avi Nardia of Lotar,and also trained Mr. Comiskey so chances are good he knows some of this as well or can get info for you on it!
Lotar
Peter Consterdines "British Combat Association" BCA covers a lot of "Real World Combatives" as well as stuff for Military and Close Protection folks.
Another guy worth a look for Street and Door stuff would be Geoff Thompson who was a door man and is well qualified in sport and Trad. MAs of all sorts.His "Fence" and "Three Second Fighter" are well worth a look.
I've not heard a lot about this group but Defend University seem to be a group teaching Police Restraint and civilian SD applications,I must contact them and see if I can learn a bit more about 'em.

Also,last but not least! SBG's own ISR MAtrix program looks good for covering assault defense and restraint and control stuff without the weapons syllabus of pure Combatives,a plus for the "not getting sued afterwards" portion of SD.SBGi / ISR Matrix

Matrix in action posted this before but I like to watch it

Hope this helps and feel free to ask about some of the manuals available online regarding unarmed and other disciplines, PM me if you'd prefer.

john kavanagh

whenever we get around to training gerry i can take you through an introduction to the Intercept, Stabilise and Resolve (ISR) matrix that luis teaches to various military/security groups

vasch_ro

John Kavanagh (aka the Mojo) took myself and a group of colleagues through an intro to the ISR matrix and its very good, particularly the not getting sued afterwards bit, we certainly found it of great benefit for real life confrontations.

Millionaire

Thanks for the update lads!

if fact there is a camp in july www.get-tought.net in north sweeden al the real tested stuff like under combat stuff. I know al labout !

adoijapo


and if I see the word "FALLICOUS" in this thread I'll skull **** the dude that posted it!
anyway off to bagnkok tomorrow for over 2 weeks intensive thai in fairtext.


and the last thread had me last beer with scott ian from anthrax in bruxelles tonight ... and he jewish and does krav maga too! ha ha

Millionaire

Musashi

ur probably the olny conbatives dude for by us.

In Krav we do all knife and gun too. too tel u all the truth what us senior krav people do is approx 60% km, we 're moved on alot from thren and we do serious knife stuff. well I did that for real anyway before KM.

having said that Combatives is the real thing cause it was designed for TAKING LIVES and staying alive yourself. horrible thing to say, unfortunately some people have been there and done that. the bad dreams never leave...

Dyr

Millionaire wrote:

had me last beer with scott ian from anthrax in bruxelles tonight ... and he jewish and does krav maga too! ha ha

did they teach him how to cope with being spat at yet? he he

damn, I forgot that gig was on last night, that line up is the first band i saw live all those years ago, is dan spitz still gunner eyed then?? :eek:

columok

FALLACIOUS


now if that doesnt deserve a disrespectful teep in the face I dunno what does.

Good luck in thailand

Colum

Millionaire

was being FALLACIOUS myself when I posted that haha

thanks Colum, I think tis man is going get serioure Teeps in the face over there! Ouch! haha

yeah Bambi Scott Ian getting spat in da face, Iremember that gig years ago, him throwing the guitar and stomping off the stage! out in da top hat in dun laoghaire

actually I want to go see Salyer gig and then Iron Maiden. Amyone here going to Maiden. don't want to go on me own, with all those wee goth scary lookim kids all over the place. anyway gongto maiden give me a buzz!

anyway gotta dash to airport!

I'll update a thread on my thai adverture from over there!

Running Bing

Millionaire do you do Krav maga with patrick cumiskey. Can you do ongoing training like with other martial arts or is it just the 12week course?

ShadyChuck

If i'm correct you can continue to train with Patrick after doing the 12 week or 2 day course, not sure what the rates are but he does do a advanced class

Millionaire

yes I did 12 weeks krav maga.

yes there is advanced training after initial 12 weeks on an ongoing basis and I do it a few times a week approx 2 years now.

In thailand as I write this getting crap hammered out of me in a Muay Thai camp.

pma-ire

Millionaire wrote:

In thailand as I write this getting crap hammered out of me in a Muay Thai camp.

Good on ya man!! Do it for your country

Damo W

Millionaire wrote:

Hi Guys

Is there anyone in Ireland doing Combatives Military hand to hand stuff. WWII combatives groups etc.

Ok I do krava maga as most regulars on here would know.

Just wondering is there any other groups out there doing their own stuff.

Heard somewhere that Denis Martin (one of the top combatives instructors in europe) was supposed to be doing a seminare here, but it fell through or something????

have you had a look at http://www.hockscqc.com/ he has a representative in London, and Hock has at least one seminar there each year http://www.p2c2e.freeserve.co.uk/sfcukx/sfcukx.html

Cheers

Damo

Millionaire

anyone going up to the combatives camp in North Sweeden in July.

thinking of going i can spare the time.