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skipping and punch bag

  • 01-05-2005 5:37pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 39


    does any one know what body parts skipping and using a punch bag helps build up muscle


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,487 ✭✭✭Kevin_rc_ie


    forearm?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,248 ✭✭✭4Xcut


    skipping is aerobic. Bag is can be aerobic, use 14oz gloves to work your shoulders.they get heavy after a while


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 775 ✭✭✭Boru.


    Both as stated are aerobic exercise and as such utilised to burn calories and develop the cardio vascular system as oppossed to deveopling muscle. The do however work the muscles as well.

    Skipping mainly works the lower body and the quadriceps, hamstrings, glutes, calves and psos group will all be invovled. Your abs and lower back muscle will used to stabilise the body and mintain posture. Your upperbody will use the muscles of the forearm and also depending on technique the biceps and triceps and shoulder muscles.

    Bag work mainly develops the shoulders, triceps, pecs, upper back abs and lower back. Depending on the footwork invloved it will work the same muscles as listed above.

    Hope this helps.

    Boru.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 607 ✭✭✭DAEDULUS


    could skipping also be considered cardio?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,644 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    Boru. wrote:
    Both as stated are aerobic exercise and as such utilised to burn calories and develop the cardio vascular system as oppossed to deveopling muscle. The do however work the muscles as well.

    Skipping mainly works the lower body and the quadriceps, hamstrings, glutes, calves and psos group will all be invovled. Your abs and lower back muscle will used to stabilise the body and mintain posture. Your upperbody will use the muscles of the forearm and also depending on technique the biceps and triceps and shoulder muscles.

    Bag work mainly develops the shoulders, triceps, pecs, upper back abs and lower back. Depending on the footwork invloved it will work the same muscles as listed above.

    Hope this helps.

    Boru.

    Excellent post.

    Your workout with a punch bag really does depend on what you're doing with it. Bare knuckle or bag mitts will tend to get your technique right with regards to wrist angle, tensing etc, but its very tough on the wrists and if you've any bad habits with regard to your punches you will be feeling it the next day. It's a good way of learning how to punch properly though, it's a very useful skill to be able to deliver a very hard punch with no give in your wrist. It suprises people and gives you a chance to run. Heavy gloves will allow you to do a more streneous workout and can build speed for when you spar with lighter gloves.

    If you incorporate some kickboxing moves into your routine you can work on flexability and strenght in your abdomen and legs (I can't remember the exact areas worked). Again just depends on the techniques you incorporate and whether you are approaching the bag as just another form of cardio or as a means to improve technique, speed and co-ordination.

    If you are buying a punchbag you need to consider a few factors. Weight is important if no-one is helping you train, although if you have a training partner who you are taking turns with (recommended) then you can get away with lighter bags. If you are going to be kicking it, you need a longer bag than the one you'd strictly use for just punching. Also a longer bag allows you to work easier from a crouching position or for practicing self defence moves.

    That said there is no substitute for live semi-full contact sparring. It's just a painful and tough way of working out. Totally valid though.

    Just my uneducated 2c ;)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,483 ✭✭✭✭daveirl


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,513 ✭✭✭BrianD3


    nesf wrote:
    Your workout with a punch bag really does depend on what you're doing with it. Bare knuckle or bag mitts will tend to get your technique right with regards to wrist angle, tensing etc, but its very tough on the wrists and if you've any bad habits with regard to your punches you will be feeling it the next day. It's a good way of learning how to punch properly though, it's a very useful skill to be able to deliver a very hard punch with no give in your wrist. It suprises people and gives you a chance to run. Heavy gloves will allow you to do a more streneous workout and can build speed for when you spar with lighter gloves.
    I just have to say that hitting a punch bag with unprotected hands is asking for trouble IMO. You could be hitting the bag 1000+ times in a session but all it takes is 1 bad punch to **** up your wrists/hands. These type of injuries can be notoriously difficult to get rid of. Also, the most important aspect of protection is not the gloves, but the hand wraps.

    BrianD3


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,644 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    BrianD3 wrote:
    I just have to say that hitting a punch bag with unprotected hands is asking for trouble IMO. You could be hitting the bag 1000+ times in a session but all it takes is 1 bad punch to **** up your wrists/hands. These type of injuries can be notoriously difficult to get rid of. Also, the most important aspect of protection is not the gloves, but the hand wraps.

    BrianD3

    I agree, I learned the above the hard way and one of my wrists still gives me trouble today occasionally. But I do know people that train on bags without any protection for hardening purposes. These guys were trying to toughen their hands more than anything else.

    It's a valid means of training, but as I said in my post, and you highlighted above, it can hurt you and cause injury. Bag mitts and some kind of wrist support is about as close as I'd get to it now. I don't think I was clear enough about the possible injuries in my first post, sorry about that, and thanks for clearing it up.

    However, if someone is practising open hand techniques or forms of striking other than punching, then they don't have an option but to do it without protection.

    Also hand wraps are illegal in most cometitive martial arts iirc, so while for a boxer they are great, for a martial artist they are not something to get used to using.


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