Respect For George Galloway Lacking

mike65

Ex Labour MP George Galloway has been given the roughhouse treatment by exactly the community he has expressed his solidarity for during the Iraq war. Some thanks you get.

A group of suspected Islamists have attacked a meeting of George Galloway's Respect party in Bethnal Green and Bow.

Police said there were reports 20-30 Asian men had disrupted the meeting and there had then been a fracas outside.

Respect said the men had threatened Mr Galloway's life and talked of a fatwa. After the meeting a man was knocked to the ground and police arrested three.

The anti-war campaigner is standing against Labour loyalist Oona King in the east London constituency.

You'd nearly wonder if they mistook him for Tony Blair...

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Mike.

dathi1

Al Mahajoroun....remember?? I had a discussion with you about the same meeting in Jury's Hotel here not too long ago..you said they were nothing to worry about. Now the reason for this crowd issuing death threats against Galloway and the Muslim council of Britain is that they don’t represent their skewed view Al Quida type fundamentalism. In other words as Galloway is a secularist, the idea of him showing "respect" for fellow Muslims in occupied Iraq is a threat to their purists fanatical beliefs. Next time they come over to preach or hand out leaflets outside the Stephen’s Green Shopping Centre..I'll give you a call.

RagShagBill

http://hurryupharry.bloghouse.net

Harry keeps up with the happenings of Galloway and co. He has a lot written today about the incident. Galloway is a terrible terrible man, but so are there bloody fundamentalists.

A Dub in Glasgo

Respect for George Galloway lacking from that mob that attacked him? They do not respect anything or anyone of Western persuation so it is not just gorgeous George. Hopefully George will get in ahead of King anyway.

I admit to voting for George when I lived in the West End

RagShagBill

Hopefully George will get in ahead of King anyway.

You serious?

Goerge Galloway is one of the most cynical, opportunistic, disgraceful politician around at the moment. Just the other day he called for the release of Trik Aziz (Saddam's right-hand man) and said he was a "political prisoner". And believe me, there's plently more where that came from.

Badabing

Just to let you know he will be on The Last Word on Today Fm in a few minutes.

RagShagBill

I hate Scotland because of him.

ReefBreak

Badabing wrote:

Just to let you know he will be on The Last Word on Today Fm in a few minutes.

Usual Galloway rubbish - lots of shouting, little substance, and a desire to return the UK to a Socialist backwater.

mycroft

ReefBreak wrote:

Usual Galloway rubbish - lots of shouting, little substance, and a desire to return the UK to a Socialist backwater.

He's the reigning house of commons debating champion, he can argue a point. Unfortunately Respects policys aren't imaginative past iraqi, their education policy doesn't stretch past education is good and anyone can wear what they like

growler

these boys object to the Elections in principle, can't say I recall Galloway ever advocating the end of democracy in favour of a Bristish Islamic Theocracy.

It would have been far more interesting if they had chosen to disrupt a Labout rally with a high profile candidate or even Tony present, then they might easily have found themselves martyred and got a lot more coverage for their fanatical beliefs.

Galloway is a complete crook tis true, but I don't think its fair to say he was a supporter or "expressed solidarity" with followers of radical islam in the Uk.

A Dub in Glasgo

Well well well....

Looks like respect for a Blairite was definitely lacking

Have a look at Jeremy Paxman badger Galloway

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/vote_2005/frontpage/4519575.stm# Top right video link

He picked a good constituency - clever man

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AmenToThat

Well I watched his voctory speech last night (yes I have no life) and damn was it biting! Five minutes of pure venom. He did however say that he had high regard for Uoma King( think thats the labour candidates) name but he attacked just about every other apsect of 'new labour'.

Sparks

His victory speech was certainly not written by spin doctors anyway, that's for sure.
Mind you, that's been the main criticism of the entire New Labour government and the Tory opposition and the LibDem party for the last few years, so it seems you're damned if you do and damned if you don't.

Personally, I thought it was refereshing to hear what someone thought with the kid gloves off, and I thought that Paxman didn't come out on top in his post-speech interview with Galloway, it was far too much of a brawl to pick a "winner".

rightleftright

Goerge Galloway is a dirty asian ass licking scum bag liberal..

A group of suspected Islamists have attacked a meeting of George Galloway's Respect party in Bethnal Green and Bow.

Just shows what you get when you stick up for them! :rolleyes:

uberwolf

rightleftright wrote:

Goerge Galloway is a dirty asian ass licking scum bag liberal..



Just shows what you get when you stick up for them! :rolleyes:

didn't take you long. Banned.

mike65

He's not even a liberal..or not as I understand the word. I pity his constituents they'll be heartily sick of his preening in the local media soon enough.

Mike.

sleepwalker

heh he did put paxman in his place


what a ridiculous opening question

A Dub in Glasgo

mike65 wrote:

He's not even a liberal..or not as I understand the word. I pity his constituents they'll be heartily sick of his preening in the local media soon enough.

Mike.

They choose through the democratic process. I doubt they will be heartily sick soon enough

Our man in Havana

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/vote_2005/blog/4519553.stm

People didn't like paxmans treatment of Galloway.

A Dub in Glasgo

Not surprising considering Paxmans contempt for democracy and the will of the people in the constituency.

flogen

A Dub in Glasgo wrote:

Not surprising considering Paxmans contempt for democracy and the will of the people in the constituency.

I must say that even though Paxman is, IMO, one of the few capable interviewers out there, this interview is rediculous. It seems as though he was bored and wanted to stir it up a little.
Saying that, I've never seen anything to suggest he has a contempt for democracy, generally he just has a contempt for the realpolitik and newspeak modern day ministers practice on a daily basis. This interview is not reflective of his work.

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RagShagBill

Also, his signing the petition to get Tariq Aziz out of prison is fairly terrible. He's not a "political prisoner", he committed genocide.

cdebru

RagShagBill wrote:

Also, his signing the petition to get Tariq Aziz out of prison is fairly terrible. He's not a "political prisoner", he committed genocide.

this is the second time you have mentioned it

so tell us when did tariq aziz commit genocide

Zombrex

My problem with Galloway is that he is one of the anti-war people that actually does support Hussen and his dictatorship. Why I am not sure, possible because he is looking to be contraversal for self promotion possible because he is like a celebraty Scientologist, completely blinded by Hussen's propaganda.

Either way he exactly the kinda person you don't want agreeing with you. I was anti-war because I didn't believe Bush should start blowing up countries to further the US interests in the middle east. But I never would dream of supporting Hussen. Galloway is a nut case in my opinion and I think the anti-war movement hasn't done enough to distance from him.

RagShagBill

cdebru wrote:

this is the second time you have mentioned it

so tell us when did tariq aziz commit genocide

He was influencial in the decision and process of committing genocide against Iraqi Kurds in the Anfal Campaign of 1988.


http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/content/2005/s1299267.htm

Peter Cave speaks to Iraqi Minister for Human Rights:

PETER CAVE: Would you draw a line between Saddam Hussein and members of his cabinet like Tariq Aziz, who is supposed to be tried later this month?

BAKHTIAR AMIN: Tariq Aziz was a senior member of former Iraqi government, and he was a member of the revolutionary command council, besides being a deputy prime minister. He took part of the decisions of the revolutionary command council on national security issues and strategic issues – wars and genocide in this country.

cdebru

RagShagBill wrote:

He was influencial in the decision and process of committing genocide against Iraqi Kurds in the Anfal Campaign of 1988.


http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/content/2005/s1299267.htm

Peter Cave speaks to Iraqi Minister for Human Rights:

he has not been tried or convicted of anything yet

despite having been arrested nearly 2 years ago


he is definitely guilty by association wether he played an active part or had prior knowledge I have not seen any evidence but i will wait for his trial

as to the the genocide of the kurds the british and americans were quite happy to continue arming the iraqis and dealing with the iraqis for the next two years despite the evidence of the mass murder

not until the invasion of kuwait did they fall out with him or have any doubts about him
are the leaders of britain and america at that time not also guilty by association for continuing dealing with iraq even though they knew full well that saddam was responsible for the murder of thousands of innocent kurds

RagShagBill

For **** sake! Why does everyone use this "well the US did it too" argument to justify what Saddam etc did?

RagShagBill

My apologies for the outburst. All I'm saying is that, if Galloway wants to release of this man, how can he justify calling Bush & Co. war criminals. There are inconsistancies on both sides. I believe Galloway to be a more dispicable man than George Bush.

A Dub in Glasgo

RagShagBill wrote:

I believe Galloway to be a more dispicable man than George Bush.

You are obviously bitter about Galloway, did gorgeous George take your girlfriend or something?

I think Bush will go down in history as the dispicable between Galloway and Bush.

cdebru

RagShagBill wrote:

My apologies for the outburst. All I'm saying is that, if Galloway wants to release of this man, how can he justify calling Bush & Co. war criminals. There are inconsistancies on both sides. I believe Galloway to be a more dispicable man than George Bush.

i m not a big fan of either i just think people should have balance saddam was undoubtedly a evil bastard but so was thatcher and bush and bush 2 and blair

people condemn galloway for meeting saddam but dont condemn people for meeting thatcher bush 1or2 or blair

cdebru

A Dub in Glasgo wrote:

You are obviously bitter about Galloway, did gorgeous George take your girlfriend or something?

I think Bush will go down in history as the dispicable between Galloway and Bush.

well bush has been responsible for the killing of thousands of innocent people

I dont know of galloway killing anyone or being responsible for killing anyone

RagShagBill

I used to think George Galloway was an OK guy. This summer I went to see him speak at Trinity and listen to him say that we should not condemn the resistance movement in Iraq, that they had every right to do what they were (and are) doing (ie. suicide bombings and beheadings). After that, I started to look into his past, started reading about his relationship with Saddam Hussein and whatnot. Then when I saw the constituency he decided to run in, I finally lost it. I decided that I couldn't passively ignore his actions and his past. The constituency he now represents is Bethnal Green and Bow, the seat with the highest Muslim population in the UK. How manipulative can you get? One must also remind oneself that contrary to popular belief, that of the two UK politicians Iraqis know, Galloway remains the most hated.

For those of you who will no doubt say that Blair is the most hated, I woulld like you to refer to this piece by a prominent Iraqi blogger, I realise that he does not speak for every Iraqi, but he sure speaks for them more than anyone here can.

I remember one of those days before the war when I was working in Basra and I was watching a press conference for Mr. Blair on the Kuwaiti TV which we could get there without a dish satellite. There were many doctors in the residents' café' and all were watching and listening carefully, as they knew their fate was being decided these days. No one could express his opinion in public because of the natural fear and also because we all knew that one of our colleagues was a division member in the Ba'ath party. Some even thought they had to make some sarcastic remarks about Blair's speech to further prove their 'innocence'.

I didn't see anything strange in that because of the fear I knew they had and moreover I didn't even know how they really think since I've been their for only a couple of months and it was so hard to get people to trust you or to trust them as well. But what surprised me was that one of my friends whom I knew from college days and whom I knew was waiting impatiently for the coalition troops to liberate Iraq show the same attitude as the others. He started saying loudly that these arguments are all lies and that Tony Blair is lying like the rest and that they only want the oil.

I looked at him with wide opened eyes and said (in a low voice), "Are you serious??" He said, "Let's go play chess you and I", and we took a table away from TV, and before we started playing he said, "Do you really think I meant what I said? It's just that this Ba'athist is listening and watching everyone's reaction. You know what I think of Tony Blair? I love this man! He's the only one whom when speaks about Iraq speaks with such a passion and honesty that makes you feel his blood is boiling and that he wants nothing more than helping us. He really makes me believe sometimes he has an Iraqi blood in him! I mean he speaks like he KNOWS and FEELS what's happening here".

I couldn't agree more, and I still remember it very well, when Blair was speaking to the Labor Party shortly before the war and he was the only coalition leader I heard saying he's going to the war for human reasons mainly. He said it clear to the people gathering there that yes the WMDs was the major issue and that there are serious reports that cannot be ignored, but then his personal main reason to go to this war was to liberate 25 million people. He added (surely not his exact words but I remember very well what they spoke) that even if these reports were wrong then my conscience would be clear and I would feel no regret at all because we would be liberating and saving 25 million people from a life that's worth than death.


Refer also to this Iraqi Kurd's open letter to George Galloway:

Dear Mr. Galloway,

I know that you are campaigning hard to win the hearts and minds of the British public, and I wish you good luck in failing. I and many other people from Iraq, just like the father of the Iraqi blogs, Salam Pax, will never forget the scenes in which you were sitting and joking with Saddam Hussein on the screens of the Iraqi television.
We were wondering what you were laughing about. Were the jokes of the dictator who filled the lands and the rivers with mass graves, who terminated birds and rivers, who did not differentiate between a killing baby and a soldier, were his jokes too funny? Or were you laughing at the Iraqi people for having a leader like Saddam Hussein?!

I know that your Christmas wish was the return of Father Saddam to power, so that you can visit Baghdad again and laugh at our expenses, but I got good news for you, Father Saddam will never see daylight again nor your dreams.

The people of Iraq regardless of our ethnic and sectarian differences are happy about the removal of Saddam Hussein and are working hard to bring back peace and stability to our new baby democracy.
I know that many people in the world can not understand this and your harsh comment to Salam Pax that your country's troops have nothing to do with Saddam Hussein's removal and should not have intervened, are only adding more salt to our deep wounds.
I know you now will regard me as a Kurdish collaborator and accuse me, just like you accuse any freedom-loving and Saddam-hating person of Iraq of "selling your country".
We are not related to anyone in power in Iraq. We are just ordinary people loving freedom and democracy and want to live free just like anyone else in the world. We do not appreciate you stealing our cause and using it to steal the hearts and minds of the British public for your own benefits.

You traded with our cause when your friend, Saddam the killer, who you described as "calm, very calm indeed" ,was in power and now when he's locked up in jail, you continue to trade with our blood for your own benefits.

We are thankful for the forces of United States and United Kingdom and the rest of the world for getting rid of a dictator like Saddam Hussein. Many of us died and didn't live to see their long dream of a world-without Saddam, but those who are living today in that dream-come-true world, are not appreciating your works.

Warmest Regards
p.s. Tell me your birthday date I will send you a series of terror-DVDs filmed by Saddam' s men of killing and torturing innocent civilians including the most popular one "The Lion" in which Uday, the dead son of your friend, is giving a man to a lion for loving a girl Uday liked.

My stemmings of dislike for George Galloway are always backed-up by his comments about the fall of the Soviet Union. He said the day the Soviet Union fell was "probably the worst day of my life".


And no, he did not steal my girlfriend, although I read he's prone to doing that.

Sparks

*looks at Galloway's election campaign*
*looks at Bush's election campaign*

Er, other than scale, what's the difference?

foxybrowne

Go-on the Georgie Boy

RagShagBill

Sparks wrote:

*looks at Galloway's election campaign*
*looks at Bush's election campaign*

Er, other than scale, what's the difference?

Exactly.

A Dub in Glasgo

Yet you find Galloway to be the most despicable?

Galloway is not responsible for the deaths of thousands of innocent people, Bush is, yet you find Galloway more despicable than Bush? I think you have your priorities wrong.

If you are going to go on a rant with people for guilt by association, you should look at this

And now look at this and this

Guilt by association? Get a perspective.

RagShagBill

Bush didn't do what Rumsfeld did. Rumsfeld is as bad if not worse (probably worse, actually, worse) than Galloway. But Bush, in terms of Saddam anyway, is guilt by association with someone who is guilty by association. Where as Galloway is guilty by association.

This has become terribly petty. It's late. I'm going to bed. I'm sure we will exchange views in the near future. Have a good night, man.

RagShagBill

Ok, I've pondered it and I would like to take my Galloway over Bush comment. It was not thought through and was based on their actions in the last few months.

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Quantum

Galloway is the Lord Haw Haw of the 21st century.

shltter

Quantum wrote:

Galloway is the Lord Haw Haw of the 21st century.

someones been watching to much RTE

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