UFO's

TonyD79

Anyone seen any UFO's recently?

Kernel

TonyD79 wrote:

Anyone seen any UFO's recently?

Not for many years. Have you?

TonyD79

yeh i saw one crash in santry woods last nite!

Thanx 4 The Fish

Any pictures of it by any chance, that would be something good to have.

DublinWriter

No, but I woke up covered in ectoplasim this morning.

TonyD79

No but I saw UN marked jeeps and a black helicopter so I went back to the plaza hotel for a quick ale.

Zillah

Poppycock

At the risk of sounding too serious for this thread, has Ireland had many UFO sightings in the past?

I haven't read or heard much about this in Ireland, they always seem to popup in the UK or the States.

Kernel

Nah, Ireland isn't known as a hotspot by any means. There have been reports in the past. I remember once when a UFO was sighted over Dublin and all the power cut out. Apparently that was a big sighting, although unfortunately I only remember the TV cutting out for about two seconds.

I did see one of your typical metallic sphere type ones several years ago, and confirmed it with a couple of witnesses (I wasn't hallucinating! ). It just hung in the air near a cloud, then would appear at the other side of the cloud. We observed it for about 3-4 minutes then just lost sight of it. Was weird. Far away, but definately looked like it had a metallic shine (sun reflecting from it) and looked totally spherical.

I've since seen the exact same thing on UFO videos all over the world, and they are usually described as weather balloons... but.. I'm not 100% convinced of that yet.

CodeMonkey

Kernel wrote:

I've since seen the exact same thing on UFO videos all over the world, and they are usually described as weather balloons... but.. I'm not 100% convinced of that yet.

Yeah they're weather balloons...built by aliens to take atmospheric readings before disappearing back to the mother ship parked on the dark side of the moon... :eek:

Kernel

CodeMonkey wrote:

Yeah they're weather balloons...built by aliens to take atmospheric readings before disappearing back to the mother ship parked on the dark side of the moon... :eek:

Well, stranger things have happened... Did you know that the US ARMY has/had a special unit who are trying to kill goats by giving them the evil eye, in the hope that they will be able to use them on enemy soldiers?

solas

there's a few people I could suggest for such a unit.

stevenmu

I seem to remember there was a load of sightings around the south west in the late eighties/early nineties. The rumour going around was that the US were testing their Aurora replacement for the Blackbird in the area. It got a good few mentions in the papers and news at the time, I'll see if I can find anything on it.

Zillah

Kernel wrote:

Well, stranger things have happened... Did you know that the US ARMY has/had a special unit who are trying to kill goats by giving them the evil eye, in the hope that they will be able to use them on enemy soldiers?

Please explain "evil eye"

Elessar

stevenmu wrote:

I seem to remember there was a load of sightings around the south west in the late eighties/early nineties. The rumour going around was that the US were testing their Aurora replacement for the Blackbird in the area. It got a good few mentions in the papers and news at the time, I'll see if I can find anything on it.

The U.S. are in fact testing advanced aircraft which harness the power of gravity to make some extraordinary maneuvers. The "UFO's" chased over Belgium by F-16s back in the late 80's are another testament to this.

bombidol

Read The Book "The Men Who Stare At Goats" for an in depth report on Psychic attacks.

acri

ok, once i saw a black craft in the sky. at first i thought it was a gyrocopter, but i couldnt see the person operating it. this thing wasnt far away either, and it was pretty big. the more i looked at it the more i got a fright not knowing what the f*ck it was. i dont think its an alien craft by any means, but most definatly an unidentified flying object. still mystified by it to this day. and The Men Who Stare At Goats is mad. he thought he could walk through a wall and kill goats with his mind for chrissakes! its hard to believe it as fact.

TonyD79

Seriously though I remember seeing one up off the coast of Drogheda back in August 01 with a clear sky when i was having a few(not 2 many) drinks on d beach over nite.Must have been military but it was disapearing and popping back up allover the night sky.Scared the B-Jesus out of me!!My mates went of to sleep and the thing was still buzzing around.

Zillah

No known craft can act like the following

"disapearing and popping back up allover the night sky".

It may have been earth lights

Kernel

Zillah wrote:

Please explain "evil eye"

Yeah, as Bombidol said, the book "The men who stare at goats" by the great Jon Ronson goes into details of these experiments. Evil eye basically means, staring at the goat until it dies.

For anyone interested in what Elessar is saying, check out the book "The hunt for zero point" by Nick Cook, which is one of my favourite UFO related books ever. Seems to be very well researched, although there is always the possibility of disinformation (which I'm sure the whole field is littered with at this stage).

Zillah

If you point a camera at a truck with gigantic stupendous headlights turned on full blast and take a photo you will get lens flare matey.

pork99

http://www.fas.org/irp/mystery/index.html

http://www.fas.org/irp/mystery/intro.htm

Saruman

I was out stargazing once and i looked up and saw something fly across the sky VERY fast. No lights.. it was just the shape of a dark craft. It had wings that were curved back
So it sort of looked like a big bird gliding.

It may have been a bird but it looked as big as a plane and very high up. There was no sound. strange

I think maybe there are UFO's but i doubt any of them are aliens. Most likely military craft or even illusions... Hell drive by the airport on a sunny day and half the planes look like flying saucers at certain angles in the glare of the sun.

maquiladora

stevenmu wrote:

I seem to remember there was a load of sightings around the south west in the late eighties/early nineties. The rumour going around was that the US were testing their Aurora replacement for the Blackbird in the area. It got a good few mentions in the papers and news at the time, I'll see if I can find anything on it.

I'm highly skeptical about UFO sightings, but many years ago, back in the 80's I remeber seeing a black triangular aircraft in the clear blue sky high above me, middle of the day, middle of the summer. Watched it for a few seconds then ran inside to get my brother. It had gone by the time I convinced him to come out to have a look. I remember crying with frustration then at failing to get him to see it, it felt really important cause it was so damn weird looking.
I'd love to find out what it was, probably some sort of top secret US or British military aircraft, no idea what it was doin over Ireland on a clear summer'sday though.

Kernel

maquiladora wrote:

I'm highly skeptical about UFO sightings, but many years ago, back in the 80's I remeber seeing a black triangular aircraft in the clear blue sky high above me, middle of the day, middle of the summer. Watched it for a few seconds then ran inside to get my brother. It had gone by the time I convinced him to come out to have a look. I remember crying with frustration then at failing to get him to see it, it felt really important cause it was so damn weird looking.
I'd love to find out what it was, probably some sort of top secret US or British military aircraft, no idea what it was doin over Ireland on a clear summer'sday though.

Stealth aircraft?

maquiladora

Kernel wrote:

Stealth aircraft?

If it was, then it wasn't a type that we've seen yet. It was a perfect equilateral triangle, and both the F117A and B2 don't have that outline when you look at them from underneath. Plus, it was moving far too slowly.
It did look like some type of stealth aircraft, but I didn't know they even existed at the time.

Zillah

maquiladora wrote:

If it was, then it wasn't a type that we've seen yet. It was a perfect equilateral triangle, and both the F117A and B2 don't have that outline when you look at them from underneath. Plus, it was moving far too slowly.
It did look like some type of stealth aircraft, but I didn't know they even existed at the time.

Let's not be naive. Dell computers have the next two or three generations of computers hidden in a refrigerated lab, advanced cancer treatments are being tested on animals, MIT probably has a prototype functioning fusion core, and yes various militaries have all sorts of advanced crap we don't know about.

stevenmu

Discovery wings had a show about the 117A a while back, as part of it they got people who claimed to have seen UFOs around Area 51 and some photos they'd taken, most of which showed what appeared to be equilateral triangle shapes. They compared them with photos of the 117A at different aspects and they all matched. Of course they only selected photos that would but the point is that it can look like a triangle shape at the right aspect, and it's a relativly slow aircraft anyway.

maquiladora

stevenmu wrote:

Discovery wings had a show about the 117A a while back, as part of it they got people who claimed to have seen UFOs around Area 51 and some photos they'd taken, most of which showed what appeared to be equilateral triangle shapes. They compared them with photos of the 117A at different aspects and they all matched. Of course they only selected photos that would but the point is that it can look like a triangle shape at the right aspect, and it's a relativly slow aircraft anyway.

Steve and Zillah, the thing is, I wasn't looking at it at an angle, it was directly above, and it terms of speed, I was watching it about 10 or 15 seconds before I ran inside, and in that time it hardly moved, and it didn't look like it was very high. Hard to judge, but from what I remember (and it is was a very stark image of black against brilliant blue sky) it looked lower than what commercial traffic fly at and slightly higher than single engine. If you outstreched your arm above you and held up your thumb it would be about that length from the top angle to the base...er...I'm going too way into this now, lol

RapierX

Kernel wrote:

Yeah, as Bombidol said, the book "The men who stare at goats" by the great Jon Ronson goes into details of these experiments. Evil eye basically means, staring at the goat until it dies.

That would be easy, humans live longer than goats.

Kernel

RapierX wrote:

That would be easy, humans live longer than goats.

On the contrary, the average lifespan of a goat is 12 years, can you imagine how difficult it would be to sit and stare at a goat for 12 years? I reckon you'd fall asleep after a day or two anyway!

dossininwork

About 20 years ago, I opened my window and looked up to the left and talked to somebody there. He wasnt very plesant and I ran screaming into my mums room. I was on the 3rd floor , so he was hovering but I rem him as standing. Someone else I know had this experience as well. I always wonder if it was real or a vivid childhood dream. meh, dunno.

Kernel

dossininwork wrote:

About 20 years ago, I opened my window and looked up to the left and talked to somebody there. He wasnt very plesant and I ran screaming into my mums room. I was on the 3rd floor , so he was hovering but I rem him as standing. Someone else I know had this experience as well. I always wonder if it was real or a vivid childhood dream. meh, dunno.

Do you remember what he looked like? What he said? Why wasn't he pleasant?

Zillah

dossininwork wrote:

About 20 years ago, I opened my window and looked up to the left and talked to somebody there. He wasnt very plesant and I ran screaming into my mums room. I was on the 3rd floor , so he was hovering but I rem him as standing. Someone else I know had this experience as well. I always wonder if it was real or a vivid childhood dream. meh, dunno.

Thats very vague

dossininwork

I know it is but I cant rem anymore which is what makes me think it was a dream only for the other person experiencing the same thing. It was like he teased me in a mean way - you know when your a kid, if its not nice its mean - I cant rem what he said but it scared the heck outta me and I legged it to my mums room raising hell about the guy outside my window. must have been a dream.

Fallschirmjager

maquiladora wrote:

I'm highly skeptical about UFO sightings, but many years ago, back in the 80's I remeber seeing a black triangular aircraft in the clear blue sky high above me, middle of the day, middle of the summer. Watched it for a few seconds then ran inside to get my brother. It had gone by the time I convinced him to come out to have a look. I remember crying with frustration then at failing to get him to see it, it felt really important cause it was so damn weird looking.
I'd love to find out what it was, probably some sort of top secret US or British military aircraft, no idea what it was doin over Ireland on a clear summer'sday though.

i think you may find that that was the next generaton plane called aurora..as i recall it is triangular in shape. again from memory they began the design in the 80's..

muppetkiller

Originally Posted by dossininwork
About 20 years ago, I opened my window and looked up to the left and talked to somebody there. He wasnt very plesant and I ran screaming into my mums room. I was on the 3rd floor , so he was hovering but I rem him as standing. Someone else I know had this experience as well. I always wonder if it was real or a vivid childhood dream. meh, dunno.

Something weird like that happened to me in Australia , I was staying in a friends house and woke up on the couch facing the window when i heard the voice of a woman talking ..looked over at the window and there was a elderly woman looking in at me ..I laughed turned my head and went back to sleep.

when i told my friend i thought she had a very nosey neighbour she freaked out and then asked me to look at the window..when i did i freaked..as there's about a 8-9 foot drop and nothing for anyone to stand on ...

ghosty me thinks and a perv one at that lol ...this did actually happen !

Zillah

What makes you think that wasnt a dream?

muppetkiller

If your talking to me I knew it wasn't a dream as I watched her for a good 30 sec's I was also a little dehydrated so i was thinking should i get up and get water mmm,the weird thing is that I remember her language not making any sense to me..and thinking after that it sounded like a voice was playing backwards ... kinda freaky when i thought about it..
I am normally someone who remembers most of my dreams anyway and in alot of detail...

Zillah

Its just that you laughed and went back to sleep. That doesnt make any sense. What person will wake up to hear a woman speaking to them while looking in a window and then laugh and go back to sleep. Sounds like dream logic to me. If you were really awake would you not have jumped up and asked her what she wanted, or maybe shouted "go away you crazy old person". Even if you just ignored her, why would you laugh?

maquiladora

Fallschirmjager wrote:

i think you may find that that was the next generaton plane called aurora..as i recall it is triangular in shape. again from memory they began the design in the 80's..

Yeah I think aurora became the catch all name for any secret stealth aircraft in 80's and early 90's. It all came about when part of a Pentagon budget report accidently mentioned funding for something called "Aurora" and people thought this was a new aircraft, it turned out later that Aurora was just a codename for funding attached to the B-2 stealth bomber, but theres no way to be sure I suppose.

Zillah

maquiladora wrote:

Yeah I think aurora became the catch all name for any secret stealth aircraft in 80's and early 90's. It all came about when part of a Pentagon budget report accidently mentioned funding for something called "Aurora" and people thought this was a new aircraft, it turned out later that Aurora was just a codename for funding attached to the B-2 stealth bomber, but theres no way to be sure I suppose.

Of course it could all be disinformation to lead you away from the real plot; the reverse vampires, in conjunction with the saucer people...

Kernel

Zillah wrote:

Of course it could all be disinformation to lead you away from the real plot; the reverse vampires, in conjunction with the saucer people...

By saucer people you mean the Reptilians, right?

On a serious note though, there is a huge amount of disinformation in the field of ufology. Indeed the UFO extraterrestrial origin hypothesis could be disinformation in origin. Some light reading for people bored in work:

http://www.sacred-texts.com/ufo/fsar/

It's interesting, because it was written before the whole field snowballed into what it is today, and there seems to have been a lack of a common policy of denial back then.

maquiladora

Kernel wrote:

By saucer people you mean the Reptilians, right?

Reptilians, repshmilions, how can a lizard build a warp drive without opposable thumbs

stevenmu

An opposable tail ?

Zillah

And they don't need a warp drive. Some sort of space folding technology would do fine, you dont need thumbs for that.