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World War II Online

  • 05-04-2005 7:57am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,262 ✭✭✭


    Hi Folks,

    Anyone out there playing World War II online (www.wwIIonline.com)?

    If you are, it would be nice to get together in a squad with some Irish players (I'm Di11on in the game)

    If you're not playing it - you should be! It's an amazing experience, you can play your part as Infantry, paratroop, in armour, in the sky, in the Navy and all in an enormous persistent world consisting of Western Europe. You really have to give it a try to appreciate the scale of the whole thing. If you're into online gaming and have an interest in things military then this is for you.

    Cheers folks


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  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 4,569 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ivan


    How much does it cost? :o


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 111 ✭✭Adam_K


    I used to play it, I have recently for a month (been doing on and off since 2001), I totaly adore the paratrooper missions and the air combat/straffing infantry+vehicles . The best part about it, its a MMPOG thats not a RPG, so it doesnt demand much effort for a bit of fun. It is definetly worth trying if you want a break from the factory like playstyle of WOW/EQ2/UO/(insert MMPORPG here), or if you wish to quit from the games altogether: It slowly teaches you that dying in the game doesnt matter (lose nothing/quick death) and it makes it much easier to put down when you need to!


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 4,569 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ivan


    Thats nice and all, but you still havent answered my question. Is it free?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,262 ✭✭✭di11on


    Hi Ivan,

    It costs $19.99 for the game itself (190MB download) which comes with a month's subscription. Thereafter it costs $14.99 - I'm too lazy to do the $ to € conversion :) So I suppose it's around 10 yoyo a month.

    I had great fun last night Anti Aircraft Gunning :) I got two 109s!

    Adam_K: What's your WWIIOnline name? I'll keep an eye out for you!

    Sorry its taken me a while to reply - the internet filtering software (Websense) that IT big brother uses here in work classifies boards.ie as "Personals and Dating" - am I missing something??? :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 888 ✭✭✭themole


    that looks pretty cool.

    just a few questions about game play.

    does the game keep going until one side wins and then restarts?

    is there a navy?

    is there an fixed number of tanks that respawn(ie like BF1942), guns etc, or do they have to be "bought/built"?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 111 ✭✭Adam_K


    themole:

    - Yes

    - Yes

    - The tanks are "built" by each side, depending on the status of the Factories, which can be attacked by bombers + paratroop sabateurs. After each "production cycle" (which is around 2 weeks per cycle,i think), the high command of each side gets to choose which to do, vehicle/production wise. Attacking the enemy factories delays their development cycle. I think they can chose one new vehicle and to ramp up production of an existing one and reduce another to make up for it. Its quite hard to explain, now that i think about it, but find out for yourself, if you require more accurate detail.

    In saying that, each town has a spawn list that shows the amount of tanks/infantry/guns/planes/boats that are available at that time to use. The full restock time for a town is 2 hours, from my best knowlege. Players can also manualy resupply towns, forward bases and cities either going to that location and despawning or using trucks and aircraft with vehicle/gun/infantry volunteers.Access to certain things are rank restricted, but makes no difference in gameplay, if you enjoy the game; plus they are easy to get if you want them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 888 ✭✭✭themole


    cheers.

    i read through some of the docs and it seems pretty detailed.

    some more questions:

    how many people are in the game, i saw some stats on the site about "sorties", but are these the numbers of people of just the number of spawns.

    how long does a game usually last?

    any idea when another free trial would be available, wouldn't mind tryin before buyin


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 4,569 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ivan


    Sounds very interesting, I'm going to investigate this further.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 128 ✭✭Furez


    Ive been playing this on and off since it went beta, its a bit difficult to start off as a newbie, actually its bloody hard. Stick with it though and youll find out where you have a chance of surviving with a few kills. Look for defence objectives take a mission and survive 10 mins and repeat till ya have binoculars, if you play allies at the moment you wont be short of targets.

    Gaming involves sniping, sapping, machinegunning, antiaircraft guns, antitank guns, antitank rifles, trucks to tow guns and infantry, all classes of tanks, bombers, dive bombers, fighters, destroyer, escort and transport boats too. I may have missed a few types but needless to say theres a LOT of variety.

    Furez

    PS Im with the wildgeese 10-15 sized squad with 3 Irish rest brits and norwegian as Allied. Beware Allied asses being kicked atm.

    looks to my previous post for other propaganda :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 888 ✭✭✭themole


    whats the actual gameplay like.

    ie as good as bf 1942. or other similar fps


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 111 ✭✭Adam_K


    There is no game that currently exists,which it can be compared to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 128 ✭✭Furez


    The infantry gameplay is hard to quantify. Graphically bf1942 would be far superior but it and most other fps are set up in a shoebox map with limited players. wwiiol sacrifices some graphics and animations to give you an arena 1/2 the size of NW europe and thousands of players. That said its not too shabby and is allways being improved upon.
    As to what gameplay involves, here its even harder to explain. Staying with infantry, you might choose to defend a town say as a rifle grenadier (there are 4-5 other loadouts). If the towns under heavy attack youll find youself in urban combat. This usually involves defending choke points(flag buildings) in town probably shooting infantry attackers from windows and hedges as they approach.
    If the towns being lightly attacked or the attacks just building up youd prolly head out into the surrounding countryside to snipe unbuttoned tank commanders. Or rifle grenade trucks, feildpieces and infantry.
    While your running around therell be aircraft fighting, bombing, and straffing. Cannons firing and bullets flying everywhere. If youre near the sea there may be destroyers lobbing 5" shells in too. the sounds are very noisy and immersive :).
    A battle for a town could last 1/2 an hour or a few days its all totally fluid.
    The above examples are but a fraction of what you can choose to do as infantry nevermind the Air, Armor, Feild guns and Naval play which all blended together give a vast choice of gameplay.

    Lastly, its hard. Hard not to get killed. Hard to get kills. Hard to find the Action(if you dont know how to read the map). It gets easier with time but still you may die often never knowing what hit you. There are no enemy icons apart from enemy aircraft.

    BTW if you do try it anytime soon be warned the allies are being hammered, way outnumbered and demoralised so this capmpaign will be over soon. But will probably settle back to normal next camp.

    Furez

    edit after reading through I see I didnt actually explain basics...
    As a rifleman say its just like any other fps eg bf1942. Point and shoot. Bullets drop at range and theres no scope. You can lie crouch stand and sprint( which uses stamina ). There is a health bar but you rarely survive 1 or two hits unless youre being hit on the foot form long range.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 888 ✭✭✭themole


    cool

    one more question.

    looking through the manual it seems that you can play for any of the three countries and any of the devisions (infantry, tanks etc), each with its own rank system.

    so he are the questions:
    for one campaign i presume you play for one country only,
    can you change from ie infanty to tanks during the campaign?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 128 ✭✭Furez


    You can sorta change country anytime theres an 8 hour space between going axis and allied. At least I think its 8 hours. This prevents guys from switching sides to ruin sneak attacks etc. But you can change between France and britian as you wish. They share the same comms just have different equipment.

    Theres no restriction on what arm of the military service you choose to sortie. EG Some stukas keep blowing up your tank as you leave town youll prolly get mad and either get an AAA gun or grab a fighter and try to blow em out of the sky :).

    furez


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,262 ✭✭✭di11on


    Hi,

    As furez said - you can change between France and Birtain, and from tank to ship to plane to truck to AAA gun as you wish...

    The only restrictions are on the availability of certain types of equipment. These are determined by:

    a) spawn limits as determined by the strategic layer of the game (related to the integrity of the supply network and the output of factories) and

    b) your in-game rank. Your rank increases as you successfully complete missions. For instance, as a Private you can only spawn a rifleman, basic (slow and undergunned) tanks, AAA and Anti Tank Guns, basic planes (Hurricane Mk I) and basic ships (Fairmile). When you get to Corporal you get more goodies (Sub Machine gunner, Anti Tank Rifle, Tanks that can acutally upset enermy tankers. etc.) You have various personas in the game. So while you can be British or French as you wish, your career as a Frenchman and a Brit are independent. Also, your career in the airforce, navy and ground forces of any country are independent. For instance, I suck in the air (and am a private) and I'm a Corporal in the French and British Ground forces. (Been at it for 2 weeks)

    Give the 30 day free trial a go - you'll be hooked! :-) Join a squad though - its the only way to get the best out of the game - to play co-operatively as a team. You'll find people very helpful and you'll learn alot through others, in fact, its the only way to learn. I'm with the 101st Airborne - http://oldabe.org :)

    Hope to see you in the game soon!


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 4,569 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ivan


    Legendary. I was going to give this a miss due to cost and other commitments. But if there is a 30 day free trial, well hooyah, soldier!

    [Edit]Cant see a link for a trial though[/Edit]


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 888 ✭✭✭themole


    i looked as well.

    it seems there are periodic trials, but none at the mo.

    i think they were refering to the free month you get when you buy the game for $20


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 978 ✭✭✭bounty


    i tried this game, unfortunately its rubbish

    stick to battlefield


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 4,569 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ivan


    Could you be more specific as to how its rubbish?
    The only problems I've seen with the game so far, is the graphics. And I've played alot worse.

    The gameplay looks at least on par with battlefield, UNFORTUNATELY, I never really got into Battlefield.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 978 ✭✭✭bounty


    Ivan wrote:
    Could you be more specific as to how its rubbish?
    The only problems I've seen with the game so far, is the graphics. And I've played alot worse.

    The gameplay looks at least on par with battlefield, UNFORTUNATELY, I never really got into Battlefield.

    you must be joking, unfartunitely this game is no where near as good as battlefield

    its buggy, graphics suck, bad user interface, and too expensive, all this shows in the low number of players


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 111 ✭✭Adam_K


    The funny part is, it probably will outlive Battlefield's era. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 128 ✭✭Furez


    I suppose I should say its not like battlefield or any of the quake, halflife or dod mods. It hasnt got the constant short span "spawn fight die rinse repeat" element. Well I suppose it can at certain times. But its just too bloody diverse to pin down gameplay. Battlefield type games are fine Ive played em too but this is just different. More realistic atmosphere and modeling of vehicles and weapons.

    I do agree with bounty that it has a bad user interface. pretty tough to navigate for newbies. This is being totally updated in next version which also happens to be a rerelease of the game "beyond blitzkrieg" due for release in a few weeks. look to the community boards under announcements.

    It used to be buggy as hell but not anymore going by todays standards.

    Its a memory hog 1G ram seems to be the mantra in the support forums. Dunno if this still applies though.

    $20 for the game and I think $15 a month thereafter isnt too steep. pretty much the standard for an mmog id have thought.

    I dont see any problem with low numbers. Theres allways a battle somewhere just more battles when more are on. Sure it doesnt have the superpopulations of EQ and its ilk but low numbers anre not something Ive seen people complaining about. High numbers on the other hand have been an issue. the game can only show 128 people at 1 time due to bandwidth issues relating to cost and 56k users. This makes some visible units dissapear in very heavy battles.

    Broadband is an advantage but not vital. I played on 56k till recently and often when I shot a rifleman say he would shoot back in the 1/2 or 1/4sec that it took for my comp to tell his comp that hes dead. The server is in america and these things cant be helped. But generally the network coding makes latency issues unnoticeable.

    I dont think theres anymore to be written about this game that isnt mentioned in this thread, google wwiionline review for more impartial and better descriptions :)

    furez
    ps id furzy in wwiiol


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