Seeing as it's Good Friday an alternative account of how Judas died.

Romo

From St. Papias.

He was what you would call an 'Apostolic father' as in; he was converted by one of the Apostles, or by one who had been converted by the Apostles. Apparently, he knew St John (who lived to a great age) and he as writing at a time when the Gospels were either being written or were just coming into circulation, the ink was still drying as it were, so he was not influenced by them, or view them in the same way that we do.

Papias was a bit of an anorak and was always asking people, particularly the children of the Apostles, who had been around at the time of Jesus, what had happened on particular occasions, who said what etc. The kind of questions a modern reader would want to know.

Unfortunately, almost all of his writings were lost or deliberately destroyed in the 3rd century. Some small fragments of his writing remain, however.

Here he writes about how Judas really died

"Judas walked about in this world a sad example of impiety; for his body having swollen to such an extent that he could not pass where a chariot could pass easily, he was crushed by the chariot, so that his bowels gushed out"

What you can draw from this is that Judas did not commit suicide after the death of Jesus. That he lived on for some time, long enough to become grossly fat, and that he was killed in an early type of traffic accident.

All this from someone who was as close if not closer to the people who knew Jesus, than the authors of the Gospels.

http://www.ccel.org/s/schaff/anf01/htm/vii.ii.ii.htm

OfflerCrocGod

Rofl :d

DEmeant0r

hahahahaha. It'd be even funnier if it were true.

Gileadi

i can just imagine a new dan brown book being brought out based on this ....


worst part is people will still read it

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

wait

I just realised, judas never got to go to heaven

poor bastard

god's a bit of a vindictive ****, when you think about it

Romo

Demeant0r wrote:

hahahahaha. It'd be even funnier if it were true.

I wasn't making this up. The account of St. Papias, of which this is one of the few surviving fragments, is as old as the Gospels. He almost certainly knew St. John and was friendly with the children of the Apostles. He was known to take an active interest in what precisely happened during the life of Jesus and was always asking questions of eyewitnesses. Sort of modern forensic questions that you or I might ask.

He wrote an account of all this, but this was lost/destroyed in the 3rd century. My guess is that his story was so much at variance with the Gospels that it was deliberately destroyed.

To put this bluntly, there is an alternate account of the death of Judas, as old if not older than the Gospels. By someone who was as close, if not of a lot closer, to the participants, than the authors of the Gospels.

His account of the death of Judas is realistic, mundane, pathetic, and in my opinion, probably the truth.


Come to think about it, a Dan Brown type book about the discovery of a lost copy of the writings of St Papias probably would be a best seller.

pat kenny

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The religion board might be more appropriate place for this topic, but they might shun you and send you back here.
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