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getting broadband, a little help ?

  • 24-03-2005 9:45pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,558 ✭✭✭


    Hi guys,

    Basically my situation is where i live adsl broadband will arrive at about the 12th of never. So i'm getting satellite broadband, i'm getting it via Central Point, 256kbps one way, diy install. Has anybody ever done this ? Are these guys Central Point good to deal with ? and also what sort of a service do they provide is it in lay mans terms okay ?

    Any help would be most appreciated,

    Regards,
    netwhizkid


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 200 ✭✭diarmo


    Are you sure one-way is the best option??

    Most satellite BB providers offer a two-way service nowadays, thus elimaniting the need for a phoneline/modem to upload files.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 867 ✭✭✭Maxwell


    I would be interested in what happens with you net wiz kid. I am in the same position as you and will need to get sattelite broadband in.Where are you based?
    And have you already got your sattelite dish connected etc?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 867 ✭✭✭Maxwell


    Why are you going for Central Point - are they the cheapest?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,821 ✭✭✭Xcellor


    256kbps one way seems woefully slow.

    I pity those who don't have access to broadband. We all bitch and moan at Esat, Eircom, UTV and IBB (etc) but at least we've got broadband.

    I think I would rather stick with dialup than go for a puny 256kb sat connection though.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 14,742 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dcully


    If its for gaming dont touch satellite bb.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,821 ✭✭✭Xcellor


    Dcully wrote:
    If its for gaming dont touch satellite bb.
    Unless of course it's turn based ;)
    X


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,943 ✭✭✭Mutant_Fruit


    Have you fully researched satellite. Do you fully understand how woeful it really is. Especially one way satellite. Thats just glorified 56k. This is really a last option. Hell, it'd probably be cheaper to get a second phoneline and get a dialup package off esat or something. And better value too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 919 ✭✭✭jbkenn


    netwhizkid wrote:
    Hi guys,

    Basically my situation is where i live adsl broadband will arrive at about the 12th of never. So i'm getting satellite broadband, i'm getting it via Central Point, 256kbps one way, diy install. Has anybody ever done this ? Are these guys Central Point good to deal with ? and also what sort of a service do they provide is it in lay mans terms okay ?

    Any help would be most appreciated,

    Regards,
    netwhizkid
    Firstly, netwhizkid you are not getting broadband, you are getting giddyup satellite, worse than that, you are getting one way giddyup satellite.
    Secondly from their own FAQ
    I'm getting really high ping times. Why is this ?
    Satellite internet doesn't enable you to have fast response over internet protocol in this way. Remember that the data you receive has to be transmitted from the Astra base station to the satellite and back down to your dish. This is a considerable distance. Even though the radio signals involved travel at the speed of light, it still means a lag of around a quarter of a second before your computer received the response.
    This makes little difference when browsing the web, receiving email or downloading large files, because once you've requested the data, it can be received in a continuous stream. However, applications like voice over IP, video conferencing and internet gaming require fast reaction times, which make these applications unsuitable for satellite internet.
    Some people have had limited success in developing and using these kind of applications over satellite, but we can't recommend using them.
    At least they have the decency to tell you in aint worth a $hit

    Get in touch with your local council, and ask to speak to the County Co-Ordinator for the County and Group Broadband Scheme he/she will be able to advise and assist you in starting a group broadband scheme in your area.

    jbkenn


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,821 ✭✭✭Xcellor


    Satellite internet connections used to be like gold. Then online gaming was invented/voip/video conferencing etc. now they are last resorts for many.

    X


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 867 ✭✭✭Maxwell


    Ah jesus - i am at the end of my thether now!!!

    I am in a rural area and broadband will probably arrive when my unborn child turns 20

    So What can I do - I am willing to spend the money to get better accesss that 33.3 kps

    What about an isdn line????

    Is eircom Hi Speed ISDN? Is it recommended to go for?

    help - I can't take it anymore!....i thought sattelite was my only option/???


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,821 ✭✭✭Xcellor


    Maxwell wrote:
    Ah jesus - i am at the end of my thether now!!!

    I am in a rural area and broadband will probably arrive when my unborn child turns 20

    So What can I do - I am willing to spend the money to get better accesss that 33.3 kps

    What about an isdn line????

    help - I can't take it anymore!....i thought sattelite was my only option/???

    Buy a 56k modem ;)

    If you are wanting decent internet in the short term your only option is to move near an enabled exchange.

    ISDN is expensive, not that fast. (64 k for single, 128 for dual)

    X


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 867 ✭✭✭Maxwell


    I checked with Eircom re: high speed - Jesus!!

    €199 to upgrade my line to ISDN
    This gives me 2 lines of 64k speed
    So if accessing internet on 1 line - Im at speeds of 64k - buuuuutt if I use noth ports I will get 128k but each call will be x 2! Twice the call price them!

    My rental will be upted to 37.50

    Why can't they help the poor people who can't get Broadband by slashing the costs of ISDN - at least give us 128k at half the price of broadband for fecks sake!

    In talking to the Rep from Eircom she said that she was told that EVERY exchange in the country will be broadband enabled by the end of year (2005) - is this right or pure bull?

    I really need help or I am going to lose it - Im accessing (on a brand new line by the way) the interenet at speeds of 33.3!!!!

    Why can my father in law in the next town get speed of 49 even when his line is older than mine??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 867 ✭✭✭Maxwell


    I have a 56K modem - but I still only access at 33.3

    Why? oh Why?

    .......and Im not moving as I love it where I live!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,558 ✭✭✭netwhizkid


    Hi,
    thanks everybody for the great response in really appreciate it.
    Originally posted by diarmo
    Are you sure one-way is the best option??

    Most satellite BB providers offer a two-way service nowadays, thus elimaniting the need for a phoneline/modem to upload files.

    Yes I’m sure one-way is the best option for me, its not the best option overall but it will do fine for me as I won’t be using online gaming or VOIP
    Originally posted by Maxwell
    I would be interested in what happens with you net wiz kid. I am in the same position as you and will need to get sattelite broadband in.Where are you based?
    And have you already got your sattelite dish connected etc?

    I’m based in South Kerry, afaik ADSL will not be here UNTIL after September, Thats Eircom told me anyway, but I know it’s a ploy and it won’t actually arrive until the 2007 deadline. Eircom has an deadline for themselves to reach of 90% BB coverage by then. And as for the other 10% they’ll either have to do without it or maybe they might come under a government group BB scheme. No I don’t have it installed yet I was hoping someone here might have had got it and would post to tell me if it was any good. I have chosen Central point because they are the cheapest I could find with the DIY install coming in somewhere under €200 (including internal sat modem card and all set up fees). The monthly rental will be UK£18.50 or roughly between €26 to €28 depending on rates for the 256kbps package. They also have a 512kbps service and that is UK£28.50 or over €40 per month but I’m going with the 256kbps package. I have got a Sky 80cm dish so what I plan to do is replace the lnb with either a dual or quad lnb and route the 2nd cable to my Pc. Although a guy on the icdg satellite forum advised me this.
    Originally posted by cormacl
    advise you get the correct sky type (usually a single or quad LNB are all thats available for Sky dishes). The Sky dish shape is not fully circular and normal LNBs are not perfect for it.. people do get results with normal LNBs but from what I hear its not the optimal.

    It seems that and I never really noticed it until now is that the sky dish is not round like an old Sky analogue dish for example so it seems I shall have to source a Sky Dual or Quad Lnb for the purpose.

    Orginally posted by Xcellor
    256kbps one way seems woefully slow.

    I pity those who don't have access to broadband. We all bitch and moan at Esat, Eircom, UTV and IBB (etc) but at least we've got broadband.

    I think I would rather stick with dialup than go for a puny 256kb sat connection though.

    I know it is slow compared to the 1 & 2 Mbs by esat and the rest of them. But for me it will be like going from a donkey to a Ferrari ! I currently get 44kbps on my dial up and with this it will be a massive improvement for me. I am hoping it will be between 4 or 5 times faster. I am considering getting eircom high speed isdn so that as you still have to dial up in the normal sense it would enable me to phone calls at the same time as browsing the net also it would up my upload from 44kbps to either 64kbps or 128kbps depending on which I choose, after all it will only add an extra €13.32 to my monthly telephone rental and the install is €119.99 so its not an awful wad of cash plus it would make it more broadband like with the ability to receive and make calls while online. I am hoping that normal BB will arrive sooner than later and I am seeing this as a temporary solution, plus its not going to break the bank compared to eircoms sat bb which costs €423 to install and your on a 12 month contract as with Central Point you can ditch it after the first 3 months if you wish. I will propably sign a contract with them next week or the week after I will try to get the turnips in Eircom to give me a date on which my local exchange will be enabled, if it was within the next 6 to 8 months I’d wait, but after that its one way puny glorified Sat BB for me, but as I say anything will be better than what I have, 44kbps and I guess I should count myself rather lucky I know people getting between 12kbps and 26kbps. I noticed when I upgraded my PC from an Packard Bell 6yrs old that my speed went from 40kbps to 44kbps it not much but as the say every little helps.

    I will post back here soon to let ye all know how I got on I’ll also post back here to tell ye if the idea is dropped, but as it stands now I’m on course for Central Point one-way Sat BB.

    Thanks for all the info guys,
    Feel free to to post any suggestions or coments you may have,

    Regards netwhizkid


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 867 ✭✭✭Maxwell


    Net Whiz,

    I would be very interested in how you get on - would you mind posting back here when you get it set up so you may let me know how you got on. That is when I am looking to get it done and would like to have some added advice from someone going through what I have to go through aswell.

    Thanks for posting this thread - and I apologise for hi-jacking it.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    One way sat providers such as silvermead and cpsat and AVCBroadband and Others broadcast from the Astra2 Eurobird cluster so if you can get one of them you can get ANY of them .

    They generally ship the same 'modem' a DVB-S card, the 'modem' is available here in Germany , http://www.dvbshop.net very cheaply, €70 incl delivery or €50 on its own

    http://www.dvbshop.net/product_info.php?cPath=1_10&products_id=123

    also twin pack of cards

    http://www.dvbshop.net/index.php?cPath=1_10

    then get a Dual LNB for your sky dish

    Heres one for €25 that you put in instead of the existing one on the existing dish

    http://www.dvbshop.net/product_info.php?cPath=21_42&products_id=182

    and some F connectors and a length of shielded cable from the dish to the back of the PC .

    Cable €15

    http://www.dvbshop.net/product_info.php?cPath=4_18&products_id=143

    and F connectors

    http://www.dvbshop.net/product_info.php?cPath=21_47&products_id=144

    Thats all the extra h/w you need to add to a sky dish for a one way sat system for about €110 incl delivery .

    Connect the Dual LNB to the dish first instead of the existing single and make sure teh SKY box is happy with it and once that all works then add the cable run to the PC from the LNB and install the card in the PC .

    Your PC also becomes a Hard Disk recorder and Telly as you can view and record UNENCRYPTED channels such as the BBC on the PC through that card (but not Sky channels )

    HTH


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,558 ✭✭✭netwhizkid


    Hi,

    Thanks for all the info,

    My plan for Central Point Sat Broadband is after losing alot of its charm i am after discovering Euroskynet. I am surprised i didnt find this earlier, a quick google and there it was on the right on the sposored links side. They may be able to deliver up to 4MB for as little as €34.90 a month the snag is that i'll have to get a bigger dish at least 80CMs but i reckon it will be more around the 1.2 metres size i shall have to do research into it. They also offer 1Mb from €6.90 a month and sign up for 12 months and the first 3 are free this also applies to the 4MB package. They go all the way up to 16mb. I am drooling like a kid in a candy store at the prospect of possibly being able to get this. This is far ahead of the 2mb max offered by smart and 1mb by eircom adsl. I know theres no upload speed only crappy dial-up and no VOIP etc but that dosent matter to me as with alot of people all i want is to be able to surf at high speed. you can check out euroskynet here. I am hoping to be able to get this, but like i stated earlier any thing is better that dial-up wheter its central point 256kbps sat bb or euroskynet sat bb from 1mb to 16mb.

    Regards netwhizkid

    PS i'll keep ye posted, on whatever choice i make, and Maxwell i'll post here if i choose Central Point, dont worry i'll everybody know how i'm getting on.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 867 ✭✭✭Maxwell


    Im drooling now aswell - thanks for the link!!

    If this works??????


    Happy days!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,998 ✭✭✭✭Giblet


    It sucks though, because you have to have you're phone line connected for uploading. Which is all the time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 867 ✭✭✭Maxwell


    Giblet wrote:
    It sucks though, because you have to have you're phone line connected for uploading. Which is all the time.


    Yes, but its a HUGE! improvement of dial up of 33.6!!

    Will get it until Broadband becomes available where I live.

    eircom, shower of gits!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 200 ✭✭diarmo


    Maxwell,

    Have you done much research into a bi-directional Satellite BB service??

    Even though I have EsatBT BB...16mbits looks very nice indeed and spending €200 on the extra equipment dosent seem like such a massive investment as 16mbit dsl is at least 5years away.

    As I dont play or intend to play games or use VOIP...a full-duplex Satellite service seems very impressive for the raw downloading/uploading capabilities.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,558 ✭✭✭netwhizkid


    well,

    I have ordered Skydsl Classic 1 €6.90 a Month 1MBps plus 1.5cent for every MB i download, which for me will work out at about €20 a month MAX. I also ordered the dish and other stuff i need from www.satellite.ie quite a handy service, imagine tracking down all that stuff manually, impossible. The whole lot between satellite.ie and and euroskynet cost me €293.22 yes more expensive than Central Point but remember its 4 times faster and the monthly rental is cheaper.

    I expect all my stuff to arrive within 2 weeks so i'll post back here to let ye know how i got on with the install and how its working.

    Regards netwhizkid


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 867 ✭✭✭Maxwell


    Excellent - wish you all the best NetWhiz.

    If this works for you, then I am going to go the exact same as you.

    I don't mind paying the 293.22 as long as I get the increased speed at a €20 a month for the benefit of 1MB sounds great to me.


    Let us all know how you got on and best of luck!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 867 ✭✭✭Maxwell


    Diarmo,

    I havent done as much research as netWhiz here and am only jumping on the bandwagon. He would be the best person to ask.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,763 ✭✭✭niallb


    diarmo wrote:
    As I dont play or intend to play games or use VOIP...a full-duplex Satellite service seems very impressive for the raw downloading/uploading capabilities.

    One way sat and your current broadband would surely be cheaper than any two way sat option.

    There's no hard rule that says your return path has to be by telephone. You use your normal ISP with the sat providers.
    You just need to access a particular type of proxy.

    This would allow you throw away your bandwidth caps, and up your download speeds for little extra.
    If you did want some low latency application, like VOIP,
    hey you still got broadband.

    From euroskynet's faq.
    http://www.euroskynet.com//?tpl=page/faqs#53
    5.5 Can I combine skyDSL with a traditional terrestrial DSL service?
    Yes, this is possible.

    NiallB


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5 ndillane


    Netwhizkid
    Any chance you could provide more info on what exactly you bought from Satellite.ie.
    BTW what's their service like?
    How do you intend to "find" the satellite signal. i.e. do you have some kind of meter or something ? (Obviously I know little about satellite but have reading lots)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,558 ✭✭✭netwhizkid


    Hi,
    Yeah, from satellite.ie i ordered a channel master 80cm dish, Digiality .3db LNB, 15metres of cable and some f connectors, The service is quite good, it was a day delayed, An posts (SDS) fault the dish was slightly dented but this appears to be an posts fault again. I didnt get around to putting the dish up yet, my Pci satellite modem card from euroskynet has also arrived with driver disks and manual. When i ordered the skydsl service from euroskynet the website said i'd be working of the atlantic 2D satellite, but 3 days after when their emails came back to me with confirmation of the sale it turned out it will be the E Bird 2A satellite i shall be recieving off, this means my cable i ordered will be too short because the satellite dish shall now have to mounted on the other gable of the house, I ordered my dish and skydsl stuff the same evening, if anyone follows my path order your satellite equipment after euroskynet replys not before.

    I intend to try and install the dish myself it says in the manual if i can get roughly locked on to the satellite that the software will guide me to locking on for the best signal. If this fails i will get an installer, i know of one whos company does sat broadband so he should be able to help me if i fail.

    about satellite.ie 's service i found it very effecient, and the service is good, i spoke over the phone to the guy there and found him very helpful and geniunely interested in my custom.

    I will post back here to let everyone know how i got on i hope to be up and running by mid-week or next weekend at the latest.

    Regards netwhizkd


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,558 ✭✭✭netwhizkid


    Originally Posted by myself
    i hope to be up and running by mid-week or next weekend at the latest.

    Yeah i wish, man what problems i've had with it, so here are some rules i'd follow if you were going to go with it.

    1. Don't order your dish and Equipment together, Wait until your euroskynet skydsl stuff comes first. Then order the dish etc.

    2. Have patience, It took nearly two weeks for my Pci card and software, manuals etc. to come, i thought i was after being scammed.

    3. Get a compass, or your never align that dish, i still haven't lined mine up but an installer is coming this saturday to try and help.

    4. Consult your pc manual when installing that pci card, quite tricky unless you read the Pc manual.

    5. Check to see if you have a firewall, it turned out i had two, the Mcafee one and the windows default one, they and the skydsl software got on like like a bag of cats, but i fixed it eventually. (With Dells help)

    6. This is their contact number in germany, seeming they didn't have the manners to post it on their website. Use telestunt to ring them (at local call rates) as you will probably will be kept listening to bethoven for a few mins. When you get through it be in german but they have english speaking reps. Just say "Speak English" and they'll help you the best they can i found them rather helpful, they even rang me back to see how i was getting on.

    7. What can i say, i hope it works for you as it hasn't for me yet i hope to rectify that this saturday. They said they'll refund me if i don't get it working, i might yet have to hold them to that, hopefully not as 1mbps for €6.99 plus 1.5cent for every mb you download (that the package i chose) is not to be sniffed at.

    8. Ignore E-bird 2A and 2B they are over Ireland but unless your with nasa or unless you have an awfully expensive meter with those satellites on it you won't pick them em up unless you accidentaly pick them up. Telecom 2d at 8 degrees west is what i'm aiming for now, it has a stronger signal over Ireland unfortunatly i'll have to move my dish again, i wouldn't mind but thats what according to the website i was aiming for first day and then an e-mail from them said use Transponder E-bird 2A. :mad:

    9. If it goes belly up for me and they refund me it only have cost me €150 for the dish and add ons (lnb etc.) and i can use them for freesat or some european channels or i might get my installer to align it to the sky digital setting so i can get Central Point Sat BB if Euroskynet Skydsl fails.

    10. Budget an Extra €100 to €150 incase you'll have to get an installer as i did.

    Well i'll post back here next Monday evening to let ye all know how i got on with the installer and how its working (if its working that is)

    Regards netwhizkid


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5 ndillane


    Netwhizkid
    Any news yet, did you get this working yet
    tks
    N


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,558 ✭✭✭netwhizkid


    Hi ndillane,
    Well about getting it working, i got my installer out and he couldn't get it onto the right satellite (Telecom 2D), but i have bought a satellite meter off ebay and its on the way i'd say i should have it maybe next wednesday or thursday. But to add insult to injury now when i'm almost ready for the sat bb, my computer goes haywire, i lost all my files and everything a friend of mine who's a genius at pcs has taken it and is re-loading all the main windows etc. It will be like a new computer, Dell eh ? So when i reload all my drivers for the sat bb and when i get my sat dish aligned with my new meter i should be working, on the other side i'm never getting out of bed on a friday the 13th again !

    Regards netwhizkid


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5 ndillane


    Any joy yet Netwhiz with skyDSL setup ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    This sounds like a complete disaster.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,558 ✭✭✭netwhizkid


    Originally Posted by ndillane
    Any joy yet Netwhiz with skyDSL setup ?
    Well its just i still haven't got around to setting it up (its two months soon since i signed the contract) Basically two weeks ago friday the 13th my pc crashed and i lost all the sat broadband software, no igot it back last week but it still isn't working right so my guy is coming saturday to fix it and hopefully then i can re-install the software and PCI-sat modem. Before that i was hitting and missing the satellite now i have bought a yellow brick sat meter with telecom 2d satellite on it for EUR160 off e-bay, i have already found the satellite all i need to do is Mount the dish and align it install the software and bobs my uncle, if this goes to plan i hope to be surfing via sat bb as early as this sunday although it may be monday yet.
    Originally Posted by dlofnep
    This sounds like a complete disaster.

    No its not and i'm confiednt it will work, in theory it should anyway, plus i 've got the sat meter now so aligning the dish is simple. It just that without the sat meter you're f****d, unless your local sat installers have it on their meters, no one in county kerry that i know had and i rang a good few, i even got an installer out and he said he might be able to get it using the analgoue meter but to no avail, now i must probably pay him for two hours of wasted time. Any when (and if) i get it finally working i will post a comprhensive guide to getting this service hassle free unlike me.

    Regards netwhizkid


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,180 ✭✭✭1huge1


    i have had satellite bb for about a month now
    they kept pushing dsl and wireless back

    so i got sick of it and went with E3 broadband very impressed very fast
    check them out www.e3broadband.ie
    though i literally cant play games online

    so when dsl and wireless come out here ill change over

    note: installation was €349


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,558 ✭✭✭netwhizkid


    Holy jesus, i have died and descended into broadband heaven, i am just after going from 44kbps to 1mbps with euroskynet skydsl all for €6.90 a month with 1.5cent for every MB i download, i am quite literally over the moon, I will post my promised guide later on or maybe tommorow. All my minions stuck on dial-up, you can now visit the promised land without paying a fortune !!

    Best Regards netwhizkid


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5 ndillane


    netwhizkid congratulations and well done.
    Now share the booty :D

    What has the performance been like for browsing, downloading, P2P etc. Different times of day/week etc.

    Any hance of more details on set up

    BTW where in Kerry are you based ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,558 ✭✭✭netwhizkid


    Yeah its a great service, it' very suffecient for my needs, Although i guess for some people it would be rubbish ! because of the Dial-ip link and the fact that its no good for voip or gaming these however don't affect me !

    The speeds in it vary i can honestly say, the slowest i ever got was 250kbps i now am currently getting 579kbps, this changes with the time, very late in the evening it gets faster anythin up to 800kbps after 11.30 when the germans go to bed as they are the primary users of it ! According to the Website they have 30,000 customers there. It is much faster during the day when the dial-up is more expensive and thus people tend to use it in the off-peak period after 6pm in my case for the eircom net flat rate 25 package i'm on. It is good for downloading, yesterday i opened an attachment of 2.5mb and it took about 10 seconds to download, i reckon i was on about 300kbps at the time as weekends see heavier traffic again because of the Dial-up link costs. What is P2P ? i don't think i have this service or have used it if i knew what it was maybe i could explain ! It has opened up a whole new world for me, not since i got the internet have it revolutionised my life so much ! it's like getting the internet all over again !

    They offer a thing at no extra cost as far afaik that you can be "always on" in a way by selecting website you like and they will be streamed down via the satellite link without dialing-up, there is also an "offline" e-mail service by them, i have yet to try any of these.

    I live in a place called Kilgarvan (near Kenamre) You may have heard of Jackie Healy-Rae ! Thats about all we are famous for !

    If you or anyone else decides to get this service, before you get this ask around your local Sky digital and satellite installers if they can install a satellite dish to Telecom 2d @ 8° west. It is available also via E-bird 2A but this is extremely hard to pick up over Ireland and generally I advise strongly against this, I myself tried this and to get it working I had to move the Satellite dish to another gable of the wall, this really was a pain as I had to get more cable and anchor bolts, I then also had to chisel around the old anchor bolts and grind them down to below the surface of the wall and then apply polly-filla to the hole before re-painting. Now I tried several Satellite installers and none of them could install a sat dish to Telecom 2D, ( I even got one out and left him try align it with an analogue meter for two hours to no avail ). If you can’t get an installer to align and maybe install the dish in your case too, then you will have to try and get a Satellite meter with the Telecom 2d satellite @ 8° west, this is what I’d to do, I got one for €165 second hand off e-bay and I had it aligned for me in 3mins no joking, Make sure it has this satellite on it or your goose is cooked. NB. You must really have a meter if you can’t get an installer to do it, or you will waste weekends on end, from the time I ordered mine from their website, on March 30th nearly 2 months ago, I have spent ages trying to align it, and my pc crashed in the middle and then I had to go the whole rigmarole of basically having a new pc again ! I only got it going today and I am very happy with my speed increase.

    This service works on Pentium 4 and but I think it also works on Pentium 3 but not very well afaik, It is not compatible with Apple Mac systems.
    Originally posted by ndillane
    Now share the booty :D

    Well i hope this is enlightening,

    I am happy to answer Q's about it if i can help anyone post here or PM me, If anyone wants to get this service, i'll help them align the dish or install the hardware etc. to the best of my abilites !

    Regards netwhizkid


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,614 ✭✭✭BadCharlie


    I Dont have BB my self but i dont think i will go and get a sat just sounds to much work. Anyways i would want it for games so no good for me.

    But well done to your self!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 59 ✭✭SnotNosedGit


    Are there any tweaks that you can do to your internet connection to get the best out of your upload speed?

    Also, do you find that you download a lot more data now that you have faster downloads? I'm sure this can drive up the costs.

    I'm about to connect my satellite system. Can't wait. I'm tired of the terrible dialup speeds i'm getting.

    edit.

    I have no choice. Had DSL for 2 years but moved to the sticks and cant get wireless. So i know the difference between this and DSL only too well.


    Well its connected and its like lightning. Tested it last night with the cable just hanging off the dish and was imressed. The cable is now in its permanent position at last.
    To be honest its faster than my connection in work (I'm a web developer).
    I notice no latencey at all when browsing. Downloading is very very fast. Faster than my old 512K DSL connection too.
    The difference between dialup and this is like a breeze and a hurricane.

    Most of the people complaining about satellite DSL to me at work have never used it. As i'd say is the case with many on newsgroups.

    As a last resort its pretty impressive. But no games for me :(

    Can't reccomend it enough to those who can only get dial-up.

    I've noticed that there is a constant download of about 4KBs when its connected even if you've no other apps open.

    I hope i'm not going to get charged for that.

    Here is another option for a provider that someone sent me today
    http://www.getbroadbandanywhere.com/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,558 ✭✭✭netwhizkid


    Originally Posted by SnotNosedGit
    The difference between dialup and this is like a breeze and a hurricane.

    Yes Satellite is brilliant and i'd say at the way i use it (not that often) maybe an hour an evening if ADSL came to me know, i'd be slow in changing as its €39.90 month which is currently too expensive imo.
    Originally Posted by SnotNosedGit
    Are there any tweaks that you can do to your internet connection to get the best out of your upload speed?

    Also, do you find that you download a lot more data now that you have faster downloads? I'm sure this can drive up the costs.

    I don't know about any tweaks to the dial-up but i find it okay for my up-loading which is practically nil except for a few e-mails I get 44kbps upload via the Dial-up.

    Yes I'd say i download away more now due to the speed, it will probabaly push up costs but i'm waiting for first mothly bill to see what it will cost on top of the €6.90 rental, if its more than a tenner i will upgrade to Skydsl Classic 2 €16.90 with 1GB (1000MB) Downloads included, if i go over this its 1.5cent per MB.

    Who is your Sat BB provider if you don't mind me asking and off what Satellite is it coming. Mine is Euroskynet Skydsl working off the Telecom 2D Satellite @ 8 ° West.

    Regards netwhizkid


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 223 ✭✭pollyantic


    I plugged it into my sky dish. Already have sky+ so it was just a matter of plugging it into the dish and getting the cable to the computer.

    I signed up with AVCbroadband in the UK.

    I got the £30 package as i want to look around for other cheaper providers. It would be £22 if i signed a 12 month contract @ 512Kbs. But its going between 500 and 800Kbs which i wont complain about.

    Robert has some posts on it here that gave me the idea. Thanks Robert.

    There are several other providers that looks even better value though, but i'd need a new dish for that one.
    .

    Forgot to say. E3Broadband in Ireland use AVC but double the price and charge an outrageous installation fee. Just another example of ripoff ireland.

    In fact ALL irish providers are ripping us off.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 59 ✭✭SnotNosedGit


    My big problem is Internet Connection Sahring.
    Just cant get it to work with a wireless network.
    Anyone know if there are any guides that work out there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5 ndillane


    Finally got around to ordering the satellite equipment from satellite.ie and it arrived Friday evening. Installed it Sunday and got the position tonight (was too busy last night)

    SKYDSL have a free offer on DVB card so the whole thing cost me ~€200.
    I went with 34.99 offer from SKYDSL but might reduce this further based on Cost.
    I did not have a Sat Locator so just got lucky I guess with the location (I had a compass). I went after Telecom 2D 8 degrees west as advised by NetWhiz

    So far I am very happy with download speeds.

    If I can help anybody set up let me know

    My Sat equipment list is below with prices from www.satellite.ie (very good service)
    *(BTW you don't need a twin output LNB)


    __Lines Ordered_________________________________________________

    DESCRIPTION QUANTITY PRICE COST

    Triax 80cm Dish 1 ?48.76 ?48.76
    Hirschmann wallmount 1 ?20.65 ?20.65
    LNB Twin Output .3db Invacom 1 ?40.49 ?40.49
    Coach screw and plug (4 pack) 2 ?3.30 ?6.60
    Digital coaxial cable CT 100- 30 ?0.73 ?21.90
    per -
    metre-
    - Colour Choice: White

    F coaxial connector Screw on- 2 ?2.48 ?4.96
    (4 -
    pack)-


    __Totals________________________________________________________

    Subtotal: ?143.36
    Shipping & Handling: ?20.19
    Total Tax: ?30.36
    Total: ?193.91


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,558 ✭✭✭netwhizkid


    Yeah, best of luck with it. It's a great servce alright i hope it worls as good for you as it does for me. I'm also happy to advise and give te best help that i can to anyone interested in Skydsl.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1 laffy


    netwhizkid wrote:
    Yeah, best of luck with it. It's a great servce alright i hope it worls as good for you as it does for me. I'm also happy to advise and give te best help that i can to anyone interested in Skydsl.

    Hi netwhizkid,

    I've been looking at euroskynet in the past few months but haven't decided yet. I know it works grest for general web usage, and I am not a gamer. The only problem I have, is that I want to use this connection for teleworking. Have you or anyone tried this before? Meaning using the satellite connection on a VPN, or citrix client for example? I searched a bit and it seems that normal VPN is not ideal as the tunnel needs a constant 2 way connections.

    So if anyone is using satellite for teleworking in any way, I'd like to know :)

    Thanks in advance!
    Laffy,


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