Aer Lingus sponsors Racism

Hagar

I thought the days of institutionalized Paddy bashing had passed, but it seems not.

Radio Riviera, an English speaking radio station aimed at British/Irish expats, in Monte Carlo is currently runnning an Irish Joke Competition. The prize which will be given out on St. Ptrick's Day is a pair of round trip tickets from Nice to Dublin. The prize is sponsored by Aer Lingus. The front man for the competition is that well know tame paddy - Terry Wogan. As always I'm ashamed of him but I am appalled that our state airline could stoop so low.

Listen in live on www.rivieraradio.mc if you have a strong stomach. :mad:

yossarin

oh..
i thought from the thread title that i could get sponsorship

are the jokes horribly offensive or somthing ?

tuxy

you are joking right?

yossarin

tuxy wrote:

you are joking right?

no. companies sponsor a lot of things. i just, well, nevermind.

simu

Cringe.

pickarooney

Ah go on, post a few of 'em for the laugh.

Goodshape

I hear you're a racist now Father!
so long as I can have a go at the Greeks.. etc. etc.

Havn't heard the ad but really... so? Sure we're all a bunch of leprecauns anyway.


/goes back to check on the pot 'o gold

Tusky

Oh for gods sake. As a nation have we gotten so sensative that we cant take a few jokes?

Ridiculous.

Shabadu

Tusky wrote:

Oh for gods sake. As a nation have we gotten so sensative that we cant take a few jokes?

Ridiculous.

What do you mean by that!? Are you mocking me? How dare you...

bizmark

Oh no what ever willl i do im so offended!!.....ah yes i shall develop a sense of humor

impr0v

Did you hear the one about the paddy who took a radio competition too seriously?

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Everyone who is bashing the bashers take a step back for a second.

Now imagine a radio show in Ireland running a competition for the best "Traveller" joke?

What would be done?

What about a "Kerryman" joke competition?

What about a "Black man" joke competition?

Shabadu

You got a point there alright. Although isn't every nationality entitled to take piss out of themselves? It's fronted by an Irish man.

GuanYin

Terry Wogan is possibly the most anti-irish Irishman ever.

He practically denies his heritage.

seamus

seansouth wrote:

Now imagine a radio show in Ireland running a competition for the best "Traveller" joke?

No, the equivalent here is to imagine 98fm looking for the best "Dubliner" joke. Or RedFM looking for the best "Corkman" joke. Or ITV looking for the best Nordie joke.
It's an English-speaking station, no doubt run by Irish and British people. It's an unwritten rule that when Irish and Brits make jokes about eachother without malice, it's not racism.

Gordon

impr0v wrote:

Did you hear the one about the paddy who took a radio competition too seriously?

He went out to buy another one to get better odds?

A-Trak

Gordon wrote:

He went out to buy another one to get better odds?

Absolutly legendary, literally the funniest thing I've heard in weeks!

simu

seamus wrote:

It's an English-speaking station, no doubt run by Irish and British people. It's an unwritten rule that when Irish and Brits make jokes about eachother without malice, it's not racism.

But yet they're not looking for British jokes.

While I often make jokes about this country and how it's run, making jokes about Irish *people*, especially in the company of subjects of a country that colonized us in the past and helped create the stereotypes on which the jokes are based, would feel like a betrayal of my own culture.

This promotion isn't so much offensive as pathetic, though.

jonny68

psi wrote:

Terry Wogan is possibly the most anti-irish Irishman ever.

He practically denies his heritage.

True he should be lined up against the wall and...............

Sleepy

Get over it already... :rolleyes:

Goodshape

seansouth wrote:

Now imagine a radio show in Ireland running a competition for the best "Traveller" joke?

Are you saying the traveling comunity don't have a sense of humour? I mean, sure, there's bound to be a few of them that would complain but generalising like that just isn't on tbh.

simu wrote:

But yet they're not looking for British jokes.

Because Paddys day is coming up maybe?

simu

Goodshape wrote:

Because Paddys day is coming up maybe?

A country's national holiday is coming up - so you mock its citizens???

I can't see British Airways or any other airline having a British jokes competition for St. Gerorge's Day.

Merrion

"Irish" is not a race...is it?

Kernel

seansouth wrote:

Everyone who is bashing the bashers take a step back for a second.

Now imagine a radio show in Ireland running a competition for the best "Traveller" joke?

What would be done?

What about a "Kerryman" joke competition?

What about a "Black man" joke competition?

Very true SeanSouth. Even if people are not offended by certain jokes, it doesn't mean it is socially acceptable to say them. It's rude.

I know Africans who have heard all those jokes about black people, and they would not get offended as such, but I still don't think the jokes are acceptable.

Kernel

Merrion wrote:

"Irish" is not a race...is it?

Not as such, but you wouldn't go making jokes about pakistanis either, would you, and they are not a race. Why should the Irish be portrayed as dumb? It's not true in general, so why allow yourself to be portayed in such a negative way?

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Goodshape wrote:

Are you saying the traveling comunity don't have a sense of humour? I mean, sure, there's bound to be a few of them that would complain but generalising like that just isn't on tbh.

No, I am not saying that.

You only picked one of my examples, therefore missing the point.

I gave three examples, but in reality I could have given a hundred and three.

Jokes about minorities are not funny. They are ignorant. What this competition is doing is increasing ignorance.

If I tell a joke about the "minority du jour" and it offends even one person, then that joke is wrong.

Let me ask you, would you tell a joke about blacks. No? Why not, do black people not have a sense of humour?

Perhaps because these kind of rascist jokes are morally reprehensable, and the telling of one would perhaps see you rendered an out of touch imbecile?

BuffyBot

As a nation have we gotten so sensative that we cant take a few jokes?

Apparently so..sad really.

Humblebee

If I hear one more WHITE man complain about someone discriminating against him...

yossarin

Gordon wrote:

He went out to buy another one to get better odds?

worth the thread for that, tbh. well played Gordon.

D

Humblebee wrote:

If I hear one more WHITE man complain about someone discriminating against him...

No it's "straight white male aged 18 to 35".

lol

Kingsize

maybe the irish are the last race on earth that its okayto take the piss out of.
Regardless of their intent nowadays, these jokes still do what they originally set out to do-perpetuate the idea that all irish people are a bit thick.
Sure we can take the piss out of ourselves but who else is going to "get it"?
if its okay for chris rock to talk about what "Niggas be doin'" is it okay for Jim davidson to do the same?

Boggle

A joke shouldn't be taken as an offence unless said with malice. If it shows us in a good light (i.e. good sense of humour) and promotes tourism then its fine by me...

To compare - I've told a wealth of black man, kerryman, corkman (etc..) jokes in the past, but never once did I believe what I was being said. You say them to mock the stereotype - not the reality...

Kingsize

Kingsize wrote:

maybe the irish are the last race on earth that its okayto take the piss out of.

Baloney!! What about the Yanks, the Paddy Irishman, Paddy Englishman and Paddy Scotsman? What about the stereotype of French Waiters, Italian "Lovers", Germans with no sense of humour, pernickety Swedes etc...

pickarooney

Can't say I've ever heard a pernickety Swede joke. Have you got any there handy?

Kingsize

Papa hoff are you saying those stereo types are Okay??
btw the paddy irish,english scottish usually end up with the irishman as the butt of the joke.
there are plenty of other stereotypes you can slag off, doesnt mean its okay though...

Shabadu

pickarooney wrote:

Can't say I've ever heard a pernickety Swede joke. Have you got any there handy?

Dane: Do you want some sugar for your coffee?

Swede: No thanks, i'm Swede enough as it is.


What a turnip for the books.

Seriously, do you really get offended by stereotypes? I really hate the way the world has turned so soft!! Variety is the spice of life and we should recognise our differences, not hide them away.
As Oscar Wilde said,"The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about".

Jr.Shabadu

Jr.Shabadu wrote:

Dane: Do you want some sugar for your coffee?

Swede: No thanks, i'm Swede enough as it is.


What a turnip for the books.

Thats Great!!!

pickarooney

Groan! Are you quite Finnish?

Shabadu

Thanks Daddy Hoff, I was expecting abuse!

pickarooney

Papa Hoff wrote:

As Oscar Wilde said,"The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about".

Stupid puff Paddy.

Victor

jonny68 wrote:

True he should be lined up against the wall and...............

It's OK, we know where he lives....

Shabadu

pickarooney wrote:

Groan! Are you quite Finnish?

I could Kerry on for hours.

Dr Bolouswki

Why do black people have white teeth?

Why do black people have big lips?

Hear the one about the paki and the cornershop?

Yeah yeah... these are all VERY acceptable and VERY funny....

Fact is ladies and gemmelmen, that regardless of what stereotype its aimed at, all these type of jokes do is perpetuate division between the races and foster a culture of ignorance and fear.

I figure people can do what they want, but the society we create is the sum of what we accept as approved behaviour - and asides from such jokes catering to a cruder more ignorant palate, and essentially being shít, they encourage a culture of divisivness and perpetuate the myth of the <insert butt of joke here> being somehow inferior to the teller.

I have no major affiliation to my 'Irishness' but I still think the idea of the competition reprehensible and the people above who find it harmless to be deluded about its cumalitive effect.

All that said, I couldnt give two fúcks about what terry wogan and a bunch of retired middle calss english people do with their days. They're hardly going to change now. If they are idiotic enough to find this kind of thing entertaining, I don't hold out much hope for them.

Shabadu

Dr Bolouswki wrote:

they encourage a culture of divisivness and perpetuate the myth of the <insert butt of joke here> being somehow inferior to the teller.

Ahem cough cough

Dr.Boluswki wrote:

I couldnt give two fúcks about what terry wogan and a bunch of retired middle calss english people do with their days. They're hardly going to change now. If they are idiotic enough to find this kind of thing entertaining, I don't hold out much hope for them.

Oh the ironing...

Kingsize

my mate chalkly is so funny.............

Dr. Loon

So it seems we truly are losing our sense of humour and laid back friendly attitude. Ah well. Bunch of whinging bítches... get over yourselves.

Kernel

Dr. Loon wrote:

So it seems we truly are losing our sense of humour and laid back friendly attitude. Ah well. Bunch of whinging bítches... get over yourselves.

Hey, you need to get real instead of calling people a bunch of whinging bitches (great contribution btw!).

Just because you don't have the self respect to protest at having an ethnic stereotype of you being a thick pig farmer thrown at you, doesn't meant that those who do have that self respect are whinging bitches.

And hey, I'm friendly and I have a great laid back attitude and sense of humour. Don't make broad generalisations and assumptions about people, that's how the jokes started in the first place.

****ing west-Brits.

Shabadu

Kernel wrote:

Don't make broad generalisations and assumptions about people, that's how the jokes started in the first place.

****ing west-Brits.

If that's intentional, it's hilarious.

If it wasn't, it's even more hilarious.

Either way, made me laugh.

StupidLikeAFox

Kernel wrote:

Just because you don't have the self respect to protest at having an ethnic stereotype of you being a thick pig farmer thrown at you, doesn't meant that those who do have that self respect are whinging bitches.

So if someone tells an irish man joke you take it personally. Yourself. YOU are the one being picked out and insulted. Right?

Tbh these jokes attack the stereotype. I dont see myself or many others as a stereotype. So why should i take offence to it? Basically what seems to be many peoples argument is that ''sure we can laugh at ourselves but when other people laugh at us its RACIST!!!''

This also is similar to the people who whinge and moan about Ireland, but when a foreigner comes in and gives out about it theyre told to **** off back to their own country

Kingsize

its okay to burn your own flag anyone elses is an act of war.
if you choose to seek out the roots of irish jokes you would not have to look far.THe ideas behind them are based on old ideas of superiority, old ideas that some people sadly still have.
my original point about the irish being the last race on earth that can be slagged off is really that the irish can take it better than most
doesnt make it right though.