Party Poll

Villain

It's being a while since we had a general party poll so I thought I'd post one.

Hope that doesn't p**s any of the mods off.

So have your say and vote for your first preference party.

FYI: This is not a public Poll, i.e. nobody will know what you voted.

Badabing

I'd vote Fianna Fail, i live in Tallaght, Charlie o connor and Conor Lenihan are very good TDs and do a lot for Dublin south west imo.

oscarBravo

Perhaps it should have been a multi-choice poll to (partially) reflect the STV nature of Irish elections.

Villain

Well I thought of that oscarbravo but first preference votes are most important and people are less likely to change what party they give no1 to.

gandalf

Hmmm I thought polls were disabled on Politics !

Villain

gandalf wrote:

Hmmm I thought polls were disabled on Politics !

I thought so too Gandalf, if you want to delete it feel free, just thought it had been a few months since such a poll was held and a fresh one would be interesting.

Sleepy

I'd ideally like to see a PD's/Labour/Greens coalition government as all have policies I agree with and their differences would ensure that the policies they each have that I disagree with wouldn't see much action.

I'll probably vote for the best individual candidate (imho) that stands a chance of getting elected from one of those three parties in my area.

LizardKing

very surprised to see SF leading the poll especially with the bad press they have had recently ....

ionapaul

LizardKing wrote:

very surprised to see SF leading the poll especially with the bad press they have had recently ....

You wouldn't be as surprised if you hung around on the boards Politics forum much, SF (and PD) supporters are extremely over-represented here...

ionapaul

I'd like to see a PD / FG coalition, but it ain't gonna happen. Failing that I'd be partial to the benevolent rule of a wise and just king...:)

uncivilservant

Socialist Party?

Sleepy

Ah, my first subject, I mean supporter. Fancy being a financial advisor to the throne paul?

mike65

ionapaul wrote:

I'd like to see a PD / FG coalition, but it ain't gonna happen.

Ditto that but they'd never get enough seats.

Mike.

Badabing

I would like to a see Fianna Fail/Labour coalition, it worked very well 10 years ago but with mr angry Eamon Gilmore so anti ff i can't see it

monument

SF, the Greens when, or if the north is ever sorted out.

irish1 wrote:

FYI: This is not a public Poll, i.e. nobody will know what you voted.

The mods and admins can know if they want!

ziggy

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monument

ziggy67 wrote:

IMO this post reflects whats wrong with politics in Ireland- people voting for whats best for them, not whats best for the country.

Anyway i would vote for None Of The Above.

Whether the person is wrong or right, I think he/she votes for what they think is best for Dublin south west, ie what they think is best for the part of the country they can vote for.

ziggy

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AngelofFire

Labour/Sinn Fein(When they clean up their act)/Greenparty in coalition would be great.

billy the squid

such large support for the progressive democrats. :eek: and i thought boards.ie users were left wing

A Fine Gael/Labour/Greens coalition with a few independents I would like to see running the country.

failing that a situation like we had in 1992 when the country ran for a couple of months without a government.

Nuttzz

billy the squid wrote:

A Fine Gael/Labour/Greens coalition with a few independents I would like to see running the country.

a lot of people have mooted this as an alternative to the present government, but I wonder would it work, FG are a very pro europe, to the point of ditching the triple locka nd joining the EU RRF and more or less abandoning neutrality, while the greens would look at this as killing their sacred cow. Obviously compromises would be made, but were would the line be drawn? I think there is a lot of policy differences between FG and labour and a massive gulf between FG and the greens.

jman0

It's the PD's that are mostly over represented in this poll. We all know that SF is 3 times the size of them yet that's not reflected here.

ionapaul

Well, based on the above poll, the PDs and the Shinners could maybe scrape together a government! Think of the amusing and hilarious possibilities...

...aaahhhhh

That said, maybe the Hegelian dialetic would prevail and we would finally reach the golden mean of Irish politics!

bonkey

ionapaul wrote:

Well, based on the above poll, the PDs and the Shinners could maybe scrape together a government!

I would said based on the above poll we can conclude that boards.ie is still not representative of Irish opinion in general.

jc

mycroft

bonkey wrote:

I would said based on the above poll we can conclude that boards.ie is still not representative of Irish opinion in general.

jc

No it is, it's like if you did an opinion poll on which party you support, in the Widow Scanlons, and Russells in Ranelagh, and held it as proof.

Irish1 knows that SF are over represented on boards as a political party, it's just y'know the last few weeks, have been, well, a tad, depressing, for himself.

Hell there are people on this board who could be shown photos of Addams and Mc Guinness dancing while wearing human entrails as hats, and still vote SF.

Pal

no way would this poll be like reality.

1 in 4 voters opt for the Sinners !

Heaven help us all if that happens.

ionapaul

mycroft wrote:

Hell there are people on this board who could be shown photos of Addams and Mc Guinness dancing while wearing human entrails as hats, and still vote SF.

'Well, where is the proof those entrails are human entrails, they could be animal? And even if the entrails are human, prove that the human wasn't dead before Gerry and Martin cut the entrails out of them. And if he was alive, well, he was certainly a tout or a Brit and deserved it! For that matter, the photo is a fake generated by the securocrats out to scupper the democratic wishes of the Irish people.

Anyhow, the nice SF man fixed my driveway, so they're getting my number 1. How can a party against the bin charges be all bad?!'

That's why the SF support in the next general election will be far higher than the last.

A Dub in Glasgo

I voted in the poll even though I do not have a vote in any Irish election.

I see the voters of Labour, Sinn Fein, PDs, Greens and Independents being over-representated in the politics forum of boards.

Dub13

I would vote Sinn Féin as they are the only real Left Wing party out there.

mycroft

Dub13 wrote:

I would vote Sinn Féin as they are the only real Left Wing party out there.

You mean hosipital privatisation, voting for the bin tax in sligo, and fawning over George Bush, while refusing to condemn the murder of a mother of ten as murder, are the policies of a left wing party!!!

Dang, I've been hanging around the wrong wing all these years

bonkey

bonkey wrote:

I would said based on the above poll we can conclude that boards.ie is still not representative of Irish opinion in general.

jc

It's similar in some respect though...
Turnout would be low
63 so far out of 10,000+ eligible voters
Like northern Ireland some people may be using other identities to vote Twice (winking I am at those people - not Bonkey)

(Though unlike northern Ireland this is unlikely to include dead people)

On another note Mycroft has informed me that he accidently voted for the wrong party and asked me to change his vote to green, which is what I've just done.

Sleepy

Well, it's clear to see why the board is constantly over-run with SF/IRA threads.

You know, not that long ago (basically before I joined Boards.ie) I would have thought that anyone with enough intelligence to use a computer wouldn't have voted for murderers. How naieve was I? :rolleyes:

Goodshape

Sleepy wrote:

How naieve was I? :rolleyes:

Very. How many governments can you name that do not or would not kill or aid in the killing of others for their own gain?

A Dub in Glasgo

Sleepy wrote:

Well, it's clear to see why the board is constantly over-run with SF/IRA threads.

Why is it clear? The vast majority of threads started on this forum anti Sinn Fein and anti IRA. Maybe that is the reason why SF supporters are here.

You know, not that long ago (basically before I joined Boards.ie) I would have thought that anyone with enough intelligence to use a computer wouldn't have voted for murderers. How naieve was I? :rolleyes:

You have obviously answered your own question, in your own eyes, the people who vote for SF on boards are not intelligent enough for you. Nearly every government in the history of the world has used and justified murder to achieve some aim.

aodh_rua

Goodshape wrote:

Very. How many governments can you name that do not or would not kill or aid in the killing of others for their own gain?

Hmm - I'd say the Irish government. First it's too energetic and second can you imagine how long it would take to negotiate pay scales and employment packages with whichever union represents the assassins.

Back on the point - I think a natural division in this country would be FF/Labour and FG/PD but that's unlikely to happen so our two main parties will always have to compromise to the other half who in turn get far more influence than their election results would warrant on their own.

Goodshape

aodh_rua wrote:

Hmm - I'd say the Irish government.

indymedia.ie

In 2004 more than 158,000 US Troops flew through Shannon Airport, most on their way to Iraq.

But they're just Iraqis I suppose. No big deal.

On the topic, it's reasons like this that I would more than likely vote Sinn Fein. One government accusing another of wrong doing in this day and age is pot calling the kettle black. And that's basically all I hear in opposition to Sinn Fein.

aodh_rua

Goodshape wrote:

indymedia.ie


But they're just Iraqis I suppose. No big deal.

The poster did say for 'their gain'; since the government are effectively subsidising the US flights by not following up on landing charges I don't see the gain (other than some tenuous connection to US industrial investment in Ireland), but I take your point.

Sleepy

A Dub in Glasgo wrote:

The vast majority of threads started on this forum anti Sinn Fein and anti IRA.

And you've never once stopped to think why that is have you? Or does your collective persecution-complex prevent you from doing that?

You have obviously answered your own question, in your own eyes, the people who vote for SF on boards are not intelligent enough for you.

I thought that was obvious.

Sleepy

A Dub in Glasgo wrote:

Nearly every government in the history of the world has used and justified murder to achieve some aim.

You just don't see the difference do you?

A Dub in Glasgo

Sleepy wrote:

And you've never once stopped to think why that is have you? Or does your collective persecution-complex prevent you from doing that?

I have no need to stop and think why. I was referring to your statement 'Well, it's clear to see why the board is constantly over-run with SF/IRA threads.' I asked why it is clear (which you never answered) and mentioned the fact that the vast majority of republican threads that over-run boards are started by people that are anti-SF or anti-IRA.

I thought that was obvious.

Not as obvious as some others here who dismiss anyone who is a republican as a bastard, scum or not intelligent enough for them to concern themselves, you need to go with the flow.

A Dub in Glasgo

Sleepy wrote:

You just don't see the difference do you?

What difference? It is OK to murder as long as a government does the murdering. That difference?

uberwolf

I'm an advocate of neither.

But a difference is accountability. A government is acting on the mandate of the population of the country it represents, having been elected by democratic means.

A paramilitary organisation is self appointed and acting against the wishes of the population majority. As such it is self policing, taking moral guidance form itself only.

Nuttzz

I am surprised that the FG support is so small here



please,please,please just for once can we stay on topic, wont someone think of the children

How many of you who have voted in this poll, cannot vote over here?

A Dub in Glasgo

I am surprised how little the FG & FF support is. I am also surprised with the SF, PDs and Greens support but there you go.

Goodshape

I'll vote so long as I'm in the country (I'm not at the minute). Havn't looked into getting a vote from over here, but I'm sure its possible.

uberwolf

Nuttzz wrote:

I am surprised that the FG support is so small here

suburban nature of boards vs rural FG vote?

aodh_rua

One could argue that the FG voters are too busy at work to spend time hanging around boards.

Villain

mycroft wrote:

Irish1 knows that SF are over represented on boards as a political party, it's just y'know the last few weeks, have been, well, a tad, depressing, for himself.

Hell there are people on this board who could be shown photos of Addams and Mc Guinness dancing while wearing human entrails as hats, and still vote SF.

Depressing for me???? Nah I love the deabte I just like it to be fair and reasonable, and wish people could discuss the issues at hand instad of abusing each other.

I didn't post the poll to see how many people supported Sinn Fein, I had a fair idea of that anyway, I posted the poll to see how well supported the other partys are.

Sleepy

A Dub in Glasgo wrote:

I have no need to stop and think why. I was referring to your statement 'Well, it's clear to see why the board is constantly over-run with SF/IRA threads.' I asked why it is clear (which you never answered) and mentioned the fact that the vast majority of republican threads that over-run boards are started by people that are anti-SF or anti-IRA.

It was clear because of the amount of people voting for Sinn Fein and the amount voting for the PD's. You can't get much further polar opposites in Irish politics.

What I asked you to think about was that if it's a fact that the vast majority of posts dealing with Republicanism here are started by people highlighting extremely valid concerns about allowing people who carry out the actions highlighted to take part in the democratic running of a country, maybe your support for these people could be misguided.

dismiss anyone who is a republican as a bastard, scum or not intelligent enough for them to concern themselves, you need to go with the flow.

You said it, not me. What flow? Are you suggesting I join Sinn Fein now? ROFL

What difference? It is OK to murder as long as a government does the murdering. That difference?

No, the difference between a government and a bunch of terrorists, that despite claiming to love this country, rape it.

Sleepy

aodh_rua wrote:

One could argue that the FG voters are too busy at work to spend time hanging around boards.

I think you've a definite point here. The age demographic on Boards.ie would tend to be in their 20's. Most people in their twenties (or younger) tend to still be quite idealistic and have yet to give into cynicism of the centrist parties.

It's quiet well documented that a large amount of Sinn Fein's support is of the angry young man variety, the Greens has always had a young support base (through the idealism of youth), Labour is similar to the Greens in that respect. Students tend to take something of an interest in economics and you'll always find a few that will sign up to the free market ideals of the PD's. Though I believe their intolerence of terrorism in Irish politics also plays a part in their appeal.

Velcrow

A lot of opinion based on such a small amount of votes! What's new !