wana get high

termanator

drugs should they be legalised whats your view have you ever taken drugs before what was you experience
i want to hear your views post your reply now

Esel

termanator wrote:

:eek: wana get high

drugs should they be legalised whats your view have you ever taken drugs before what was you experience i want to hear your views post your reply now

This is what people pay taxes for?

Ph D or Narc?

John R

If you want to hear everyone's views why not read through all the past threads on the subject?

Serbian

termanator wrote:

drugs should they be legalised whats your view have you ever taken drugs before what was you experience
i want to hear your views post your reply now

Thank you for your new and insightful topic

pwd

alcohol and tobacco should be outlawed also, which would hugely alleviate the stress on the underfunded healthcare system here, if it were done effectively.
A huge amount more money should be put into providing public amenities for people of all ages and interests.
Addictive video games such as football management and role playing games should also be outlawed.
Unemployment benefit should be granted without delay to people who are in need of it. At the moment people who do not qualify for the dole can be left totally broke. Recipents should be obliged to do some community or charity work, however.
The penitentinary system in this country is entirely inadequate, and many criminals are let off with serious crimes, or suffer only minimal sentences. Corporal punishment should be introduced for crimes in order to accommodate the excess numbers. The death penalty would be inteligent for a crimes such as muutiple murder, child molestation, serial rape, and any crime that exhibits extreme cruelty and sadism.
Unions are far too poweful in the public sector, and many other areas also. In some jobs you are more likely to get in trouble for working too hard than slacking as a result. Unions are a dated concept and should have their powers relegated, if not outlawed completely. France is the first nation in the EU to consider doing something along these lines by relegatingf unions' power to strike. Ideally, in place of unions, most jobs should be required to have some form of internal policing, to prevent unfair treatment of people in the workplace.
Moral people will not consider having children until they are in a position emotionally, financially, socially etc to be able to give them the support they need. Why not impose this requirement on amoral people also? Some sort of schemes could be worked out that would be effective. In China there has been tax penalties on the communities where people have more than one child, and that creates an effective pressure on parents to releagte themselves, so that would also seem a feasible way of introducing what I propose.

D!ve^Bomb!

pwd wrote:

alcohol and tobacco should be outlawed also, which would hugely alleviate the stress on the underfunded healthcare system here, if it were done effectively.

As long as you're not being sarcastic then you are my new best friend , I’ve actually brought this topic up before... BUT!! Typical Irish mentality and there love of alcoholism :rolleyes:

pat kenny

This topic has been talked about many, many, many times before in the 5 years Iv been around.
It degenerates into complete nonsence.
Can this be put into trolls or something.

jor el

Drugs are bad, mmmkaaaaay.

Tha Gopher

How funny, just the other day yours truly posted the following in a different topic (it was skanger thread 123,759 actually http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=234423)

"Jesus, another fukin skanger thread! The only topic that gets repeated more is (and is infinitely more boring) is when a 15 year old boards user, just into his house after smokin a few drags off a joint for the first time, starts yet another "do ya think weed should be legalised? I think so, its just a good, peaceful way of bein laid back and chillin out. Nobody fights when theyve been smokin" despite the fact that

a- You were most probably smoking hash, not weed, to be pedantic tbh son
b- As if every stoner in this world is some sort of Mahatma Gandhi meets Bob Marley figure............
fair amount of this lot will claim to be smokers when the next legalise hash thread pops up in....oh,Id give it 3 hours till theres a new one"

Well,2 days it took,all the kids musta been too stoned to do one over the weekend



Have i taken drugs before? Yes, more times than i can remember. Hash semi-daily, the rest generally rarely . However the only thing better than getting high on hash,pills and coke is going online and telling everyone about it in a look at me Ive done drugs manner (see my sig )

Sigh, ive said it before and ill say it again. If drugs were legalised theyd be taxed. Nobody wants to buy pricey taxed drugs. Possesing illegally bought drugs would prolly still be illegal. So in essence bar going on your birthday to smoke in a cafe Dam style,it wouldnt be a whole pile different





And pwd-**** off!!! Ban drinking, **** me are you Michael McDowell by any chance?
Mind you, I agree that it would be a good idea to phase out tobacco. Perhaps introduce some cut off point, where its only available to people who turned 16 before, lets say, 2008, by use of ID cards or somethin

But ban alcohol? Id die for the cause

azezil

pwd wrote:

alcohol and tobacco should be outlawed also

She's a witch!!

Tar.Aldarion

alcohol outlawed er no thanks!!!¬!
how bout ppl dont abuse it.
your trying to ban people being idiots

Shabadu

@ pwd-
democracy not working out for you, eh? People are corrupt and mad. Your utopia won't and can't make people any happier than the crappy systems in this society, there'd always be injustices and pain and horribleness.

We all feel our own personal benevolent dictatorships are the best, but in the interest of fairness we have to compromise and just try to improve the world in our own ways.

Good for you for having a strong conviction of what you feel is right though. I may not agree with the ethics that you hold but at least people still have 'em.

[this is all with the caveat that you're not being sarcastic, in which case i'll just get me coat.]

termanator

D!ve^Bomb! wrote:

As long as you're not being sarcastic then you are my new best friend , I’ve actually brought this topic up before... BUT!! Typical Irish mentality and there love of alcoholism :rolleyes:

no iam no been sarcastic it is an interesting topic of real life
it is part of socity wether we want it or not we try to ignore it but it dosent go away so the best way todeal with it is see what other peoples views are and share them what you think

termanator

yes to you who think alcohol should be baned i agree
totaly as year in year out there is never a day when there is not
an tragic accident involving alcohol
what car owners think about when they get into ther car after drinking over the limit is beyond all human sainty
they know the risk they are takeing and the peanlty involved
why why why why why must they ignore the warnings
now please try and keep to the issue drugs what is your experience and do they have any longterm effect as we grow older

Doper Than U

I'm for a ban on alcohol too. And drugs. And tobacco. But that's probably because I don't use them, and the only experience I have of them are negative. It's just a personal opinion though, and not one that's likely to take hold in Ireland. Incidentally, we do have the highest beer intake per person in the world.
I'd ban idiots too.

Blisterman

Ban tobacco, legalize weed. That'd solve a lot of problems.
And as for people who smoke spliffs, tough, you're just gonna have to relight.

Kernel

termanator wrote:

yes to you who think alcohol should be baned i agree
totaly as year in year out there is never a day when there is not
an tragic accident involving alcohol
what car owners think about when they get into ther car after drinking over the limit is beyond all human sainty
they know the risk they are takeing and the peanlty involved
why why why why why must they ignore the warnings
now please try and keep to the issue drugs what is your experience and do they have any longterm effect as we grow older

Pfft.. this old debate again. I'm not in favour of legalising drugs, mainly because I like to have my brain working the way nature intended. You talk about drink-driving, and yet if you legalise drugs, more people will be driving around tripping on acid/E or coked out of their eyeballs., or stoned. There are also addictive qualities, both physical and psychological, which would not = a nice well ordered society.

Banning alcohol is very big brotherish, and I wouldn't like to go down that road tbh. Tobacco is too addictive, insidious and dangerous, and I would be in favour of banning it... For the same reasons that some drugs are banned. Too dangerous.

Each drug has different long term effects, and effects people differently due to their physiologies and their psychological make up... but in general, drugs bad mmkay.

MrNuked

alcohol is more addictive than almost any other drug.
a drunk man will be more dangerous on the road than a stoned man, who will be more cautious.
Alcohol has more negative social effects than most other drugs, since it causes users to lose control of any controlled anger they may have.
Alcohol has more negative effects on health than most other drugs.
Alcohol has a negative psychological effect. It is a depressant.

AngryBadger

I'm only getting involved 'cause I wanna see my new sig woohoo!

StupidLikeAFox

MrNuked wrote:

alcohol is more addictive than almost any other drug.
a drunk man will be more dangerous on the road than a stoned man, who will be more cautious.
Alcohol has more negative social effects than most other drugs, since it causes users to lose control of any controlled anger they may have.
Alcohol has more negative effects on health than most other drugs.
Alcohol has a negative psychological effect. It is a depressant.

Wow, that scared the **** outta me, i almost dropped my pint! :eek:

tuxy

pwd wrote:

alcohol and tobacco should be outlawed also, which would hugely alleviate the stress on the underfunded healthcare system here, if it were done effectively.

good idea and lets hope prohibition works out as good for us as it did for the yanks then

fizzynicenice

Doper Than U wrote:

I'm for a ban on alcohol too. And drugs. And tobacco....... Incidentally, we do have the highest beer intake per person in the world.
I'd ban idiots too.

EGAD!!! INFIDEL!!! I'LL PUT A JIHAD ON YOU RIGHT NOW!

MickFarr

Good Lord!

Don't legalise it! The price would rocket! :eek:

tuxy

Doper Than U wrote:

Incidentally, we do have the highest beer intake per person in the world.

for some reason i don't believe this
links please

GraveRobber

Its like this... if a perent tells there child that they dont care about them drinking at the age of 12 then that kid will drink excessivly(spelling?) pick up smoking or drugs or something. There will always be a new way to rebel... if hash is legalised then the next big thing will be all these drugs like playstations etc(That is the drug playstation for all you innocents). So it should not be legalised because theres no real problem getting it anyway and the penalty from getting cought is minimal. Y bother making it legal, at least the scumbgs that sell it will get put into jail for being the scum that they are. Ever hear of the saying if somethings not broken then dont fix it.

Blisterman

Well I think if you're doing drugs just cause they're illegal, you shouldn't be doing them at all.
And Id say the price would drop if they were leaglized. Anyone could grow it.

Neuro

tuxy wrote:

for some reason i don't believe this
links please

We are in fact the second largest consumers of beer per capita:

1. Czech Republic, 155 litres pp. pa.
2. Ireland 147.1 litres pp. pa.

http://www.beerwsc.co.nz/page.asp?PageID=3

Only Human

According to the tour guide at the Jameson distillery in cork (I think) we consume over half the whisky distilled per anum out of something like 12 million bottles. The other supplys the rest of the world!

GraveRobber

If i remember correctly from the guinness book of records in 2004 ireland was the 2nd highest and the checks wer the first. This year though we are the biggest drinkers.

ExoduS 18.11

can sumone just close this thread please? please? how many times does the "drugs are bad" "But alcohols worse, so lets just compare the two!" rota of threads have to keep going?

Piste

It'll die in a few days. Then there will be a skanger thread. Then that will die. Then there will be a D4 thread. Then that will die. Then someone will post the same link as one that was posted last week. Then Someone else will start a 'should weed be legalised?' thread. And so the cycle begins once more.

Kernel

MrNuked wrote:

alcohol is more addictive than almost any other drug.

Right.. Alcohol is more addictive than crack cocaine is it? How about heroin? Normal coke? Come on lad!

MrNuked wrote:

a drunk man will be more dangerous on the road than a stoned man, who will be more cautious.

Both are dangerous.. a stoned man should not drive, neither should a drunk man.. how about a man tripping on acid? Or someone under the influence of Angel Dust?

MrNuked wrote:

Alcohol has more negative social effects than most other drugs, since it causes users to lose control of any controlled anger they may have.

Sure most harder drugs cause that. Losing control is one of the reasons people take them.

MrNuked wrote:

Alcohol has more negative effects on health than most other drugs.

Well, that is because other drugs are controlled substances.. if heroin is legalised and becomes are widely available as alcohol, i'm sure that would have a worse effect than alcohol. Plus, smoking is the biggest killer, ahead of alcohol, and what keeps people smoking is the nicotine, so indirectly, nicotine/cigarettes have the worst effects.

MrNuked wrote:

Alcohol has a negative psychological effect. It is a depressant.

Hallucinagenics can have a very bad psychological effect, and ecstacy use has been linked to depression and problems with serotonin receptors in the brain.

All your points are wrong, sorry man.

Piste

Mr Nuked's last two points were quite valid. Sure if heroin were legalised and became are widely available as alcohol that would have a worse effect than alcohol. But that's an IF. As it is t the moment Alcohol does have more negative effects on health because it is so widely available

Alcohol is indeed a depressant. Just because other drugs also have bad psychological effects doesnt weaken the fact that alcohol has a very negative psychological effect.


Plus, hangovers are teh horrible.

pwd

Kernel:

Alcohol is more addictive than regular cocaine, and also heroin yes. It is less easy to become addicted to it, but a full-blown alcoholic has a stronger dependence than someone addicted to either of these substances. Note also that the post says "almost any other drug".

The intoxicated driving statement was proven by tests. People who are stoned are very calm and sedated and are unlikely to take risks. It does not say that they are safe drivers. I said that they make safer drivers than drunk people. They do. Talking about the other drugs you mention is irrelevant to my point entirely.

Most harder drugs do NOT cause you to lose control of anger in the way alcohol does. Heroin makes you feel completely at peace. Ecstacy makes you feel incredibly happy. Hash and grass pacify you. Cocaine turns you into a cocky bastard. Poppers make you giddy for about 15 seconds. Hallucinigens make you hallucinate. None of these substances cause you to lose control of your anger.

Alcohol does have worse effects on health than most other drugs.

Alcohol does have a negvative psychololical effect. Where is it suggested that hallucinogens and ecstacy do not?

All of the above points are correct. You should take time to read what people say before you contradict thems, and not argue on topics you know nothing about.

Shabadu

You can go out and enjoy one or two pints occasionally as part of a healthy diet.

You can't go out and enjoy the odd syringe of smack as part of a healthy diet. Not everyone is an alcoholic.

pwd

Not every heroin user injects it either.
If you inject alcohol you will kill yourself.

Shabadu

I passed some homeless guy the other day. He was soking heroin off some tinfoil. He noticed I had a bottle of Barolo in my bag. He said: 'I pity you.'

Ajnag

You want a legalised regulated transparent economy?
Or uncontrolled criminal lawless destabilising economy?

Drugs are the worlds 3rd largest trade, people take drugs, thats the reality.
How do you wanna deal with it?

Blisterman

Actually,in its pure form heroin isn't all that dangerous to you. most heroin addicts die from overdose or Aids.

Doper Than U

Originally Posted by Doper Than U
Incidentally, we do have the highest beer intake per person in the world.




for some reason i don't believe this
links please

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/lif_bee_con

pat kenny

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pwd

let's ressurrect this thread to annoy pat kenny.

pwd

pwd wrote:

let's ressurrect this thread to annoy pat kenny.

Hah hah! This is what you get for not giving out much to the audience. Damn you Pat!

Mossy Monk

pwd wrote:

let's ressurrect this thread to annoy pat kenny.

why the **** would you go and do something stupid like that

Robbo

Shouldn't someone have rolled out a Bill Hicks quote by now?

jonny68

termanator wrote:

drugs should they be legalised whats your view have you ever taken drugs before what was you experience
i want to hear your views post your reply now

Some statment to come out with that :rolleyes: if your going to argue about whether or not drugs should be legalised the least you should do is argue the point..im of the opinion that cananbis should be legalised and controlled,it works well in Holland and think of the income it would generate not to mention the jobs it would provide..i could go on but i think you get the message

cooperguy

MrNuked wrote:

Alcohol has a negative psychological effect. It is a depressant.

That is not true your confused like so many other people who think that. The reason alcohol is called a depressant is because it slows down the functions of the body not because it makes you depressed.

StonedParadoX

i doubt strongly they will ban alcohol

but if they do ban alcohol ..they'll prolly legalize Weed afterwards

Wez

ColHol wrote:

Wow, that scared the **** outta me, i almost dropped my pint! :eek:

Yeh, I almost dropped my J.. But I took another toke instead..

Esel

[auto reply] termanator (sic) is in Templemore at the mo, so s/he can't reply to your posts right now. However, your IP has been logged. [/auto reply]

jellie

imagine the total uproar there would be if alcohol was banned..