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Do you believe that belief affects the outcome.

  • 09-03-2005 3:17pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 396 ✭✭


    If I force myself into believing that something will happen or could happen would it/ could it.

    Ie, if I wanted someone to like me (who did, but not anymore), if i believed they might get the feelings back would it help?

    Or, if I didn't believe it would happen, would that lessen the chances?DYB


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,689 Mod ✭✭✭✭stevenmu


    I used to believe in something like this. Then I decided it's more likely that my beliefs were more than likely coloured by some foreknowledge of what would happen, be it through some paranormal means or through some relatively normal means (subconcious mind) or just plain common sense.

    It's very hard to make yourself genuinely believe something. In your case do you think that you can make yourself believe someone will like you again just because that's what you want to believe ? Even if you think that that's what you do believe it's possible that deep down you want. If you genuinely do believe that someone will like you again then it's probably because you have some reason to believe it, and the same for if you don't genuinly believe it. Unfortunatly I don't think we get a real concious choice for what we do and don't believe.

    Of course that doesn't take into account the affect of any possible actions you may or may not take. If you decide on a course of (in)action which may improve or reduce your chances of success/failure, then your beliefs are likely to change along with your chances.

    Either way, if you're looking for a tangible real world effect, you're better off taking real world tangible (in)action to make it happen and not rely totally on paranormal phenomona. The two are almost never mutually exclusive, you might aswell try both. Kind of like if you break a leg, you could try just a spiritual healer, or you could just go to the hospital and get a cast, but why not do both, neither should prevent the other working (unless it's one of those healers who has to lick the injury I suppose :) ).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 84 ✭✭79cortinaz


    i believe in positive thought, which would mean that yes, technically i think you could make things go your way by believing it will BUT can you put in the amount of belief necessary for it to happen? like its easy saying to believe in something and it will come true, but that level of belief might be very hard to sustain and at the end of the day the whole thing mightnt be worth the effort involved.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,193 ✭✭✭[Jackass]


    I don't know about the power of the mind being able to subconciously make someone like you more or less, i dont mean it couldn't, i just dont know, but if nothing else, believing something can make you more confident, and if you believe they like you, you'll probably be more fun, and attentive than if you believed they didn't, so in that respect it deffenatly helps. I know the placebo effect of the mind, can covert you believing something is happening to you, to actually making it happen to you (or at least more so than if you didn't, such as improving health, and that's medical fact.) but can this transfer to another person? who knows? But it's your mind, and your beliefes, and you can use them any way you want, so i say if that's what you choose to believe, go for it and good luck :) It cant do any harm anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,399 ✭✭✭✭Thanx 4 The Fish


    I think that if you want to see something then you will be more likely to see it than if you were very sceptical and so not looking for an event. I was in a room of a nightclub I worked in and three or four people claim that they saw a ghost/image/old lady floating around. We were all looking towards the same general area but I did not see anything. I do not think of myself as a sceptic but I do not really believe as some of the people around me did and I had no idea of the history of the place.

    Anyway what I am trying to say is I think yes...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2 Leisha101


    I BELIEVE THIS IS THE MOST CONFUSING THING I HAVE EVER READ!! MY ADVICE WOULD BE TO LET THINGS JUST HAPPEN AS THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO AND SAVE YOUR ENERGY FOR SOMETHING ELSE... :rolleyes:


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