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wats the safest way to carry a mobile phone?

  • 08-03-2005 10:06am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 478 ✭✭


    theres a alot of stuff on the net regarding tis
    some say to carry it upside down
    wat is the correct way to csarry it?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,225 ✭✭✭Scruff


    in a led lined container with a piece of kryptonite beisde it.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,567 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    synchro wrote:
    theres a alot of stuff on the net regarding tis
    some say to carry it upside down
    wat is the correct way to csarry it?

    Mobile phones use the least power possible in order to prolong the battery life. Any action that you take - holding phone upside down, patented shielding - that blocks the signal just causes the phone to radiate a stronger signal to compensate. Result - shorter battery life and more radiation.

    The radiation dose from a mobile phone is a lot less that from a TV or microwave oven, and the frequency is a lot lower too. Thus far there is no confirmed research that shows that mobile radiation is worse than the hazards of holding something loud to your ear like a walkman.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,396 ✭✭✭✭kaimera


    i carry it in my jeans pocket...wondered why my nuts would be roasting by the end of the day :: had the phone upside down.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,567 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    kaimera wrote:
    i carry it in my jeans pocket...wondered why my nuts would be roasting by the end of the day :: had the phone upside down.
    it's probably the safest way of getting a Darwin Award. :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 312 ✭✭Eoghan-psych


    Definitely in your pocket - that way you can't lose it.

    Bear in mind that any harm from the radiation isn't going to be solved by carrying it in a magnetic blue bucket - EMR doesn't tend to care very much about most things. The only way to isolate yourself from the energy emitted by the phone is to throw it away. Except that won't remove all the other radiation.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,461 ✭✭✭DrIndy


    The newer the phone and the better the reception it has means that it uses less energy - which directly results in reduced emissions.

    So get a newer phone if you have a brick!

    Another point is that when a phone is ticking over, it sends very little radiation out. Its when it is used during a phone conversation that the energy levels are significantly raised.

    There is a lot of controversy over the effects of low frequency ionising radiation. There have been some links to brain tumours, leukaemia (cancer of the blood producing cells) and lymphoma (cancer of the immune system cells).

    However these have been counterbalanced by many papers which do not demonstrate this, or that the creation of the study were not entirely flawless.

    Remember you get an enormous dose of cosmic radiation every time you step on a long haul flight. Radiation is ubiquitous - it is wise to reduce your exposure without going to great and inconveniencing lengths in the process.

    Are mobile phones dangerous? The Jury is still out.......

    To be precautious is a maybe a good idea - what about using a handsfree kit so the large dose of radiation is not next to your head or having a speaker phone?

    Alternately, use landlines all the time - they are cheaper, no need to worry about reception quality and don't die in the middle of the conversation.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,567 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    DrIndy wrote:
    Alternately, use landlines all the time - they are cheaper, no need to worry about reception quality and don't die in the middle of the conversation.
    Back here in Ireland the line rental alone is more than a low usage mobile contract AND you can't guarantee a modem connection even at 28K because of the state of the lines.

    But you are right about going out , Oxygen is carcinogenic and there is also an increased risk of exposure to DHMO. And if you decide to stay in the house keep away from the stairs and the kitchen, they are far more dangerous than mobile phones.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,461 ✭✭✭DrIndy


    Yes Dihydrogenmonoxide is certainly dangerous - produced by nearly every industrial process and fatal if inhaled!

    There were also 37 hospital admission in 1999 in the UK due to injuries from Tea Cosies!

    Seriously though - common sense is very important to reduce radiation exposure, but within reason is best.........


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,567 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    DrIndy wrote:
    There were also 37 hospital admission in 1999 in the UK due to injuries from Tea Cosies!
    Still not believing that one until I see it on a .gov.uk site ;)

    Just pointing out that IMHO all this scaremongering over percieved dangers like phones etc. is just distracting people from real dangers like 98% of drivers breaking the speed limit on 30mph link roads, and issues like e-voting etc.

    The main dangers from mobile phones are accidents caused by not paying attention while using it or getting mugged for it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,461 ✭✭✭DrIndy


    Still not believing that one until I see it on a .gov.uk site ;)

    Seriously!

    http://www.dti.gov.uk/homesafetynetwork/hass/43-100.pdf

    Section 9 page 7

    2 accidents and a national incidence of 37 injuries involving a tea cosy!

    There were also 1 accident with a national incidence of 18 involving napkins!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,425 ✭✭✭Fidelis


    DrIndy wrote:
    The newer the phone and the better the reception it has means that it uses less energy - which directly results in reduced emissions.

    So get a newer phone if you have a brick!

    Not necessarily, you'd be surprised at the SAR figures of many of the older 'bricks'. If anything, the SAR values are still the same due to the fact that by and large, the antenna has moved from being external to internal. Any progression in antenna technology was nulified by hiding the thing inside the casing. Then again, you should always take in-house SAR values with a bucket of salt.

    Capt'n Midnight hits the proverbial nail on the head though; obstructing the antenna in any way will result in a higher power output. Knowing this, try to give your phones antenna as much breathing space when on a call i.e. don't smother it with your hand while holding the phone. Similarly, your phone will use up more power if it's idle in an area of low reception. In just the same way, it's trying it hardest to get a better signal.

    As a means of a cheap, non-invasive vasectomy, I suggest sellotaping your phone to your crotch and have it continuously calling a freephone number.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 383 ✭✭Biologic


    IMHO all this scaremongering over percieved dangers like phones etc. is just distracting people from real dangers like 98% of drivers breaking the speed limit on 30mph link roads
    I'd say a few years ago people were saying " IMHO all this scaremongering over percieved dangers like people going a few miles over the speed limit etc. is just distracting people from real dangers like unemployment".
    I agree the speed limit problem is important but you can't ignore the smaller potential dangers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,335 ✭✭✭rugbug86


    apparantly guys carrying their phones in their jeans pocket kills their sperm, reducing sperm levels. so if you know anyone who's having trouble making a baby, tell them to carry their phone in their shirt/jacket pocket. or in a bag...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 142 ✭✭r3boot


    rugbug86 wrote:
    apparantly guys carrying their phones in their jeans pocket kills their sperm, reducing sperm levels. so if you know anyone who's having trouble making a baby, tell them to carry their phone in their shirt/jacket pocket. or in a bag...

    not more premacidal than a pint or a fever.

    AND carrying it in a bag won't make a difference as the radiation can still reach you. Infact you can be affected by the person sitting next to you on the bus.

    How much is the radiation?
    Is it significant ?


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