Indymedia

PaulHughesWH

It's been down for days.

Anyone know whats wrong with it?

http://www.indymedia.ie

Goodshape

No idea. indymedia.org is still up.

mycroft

DNS server fees were forgotten.

they've paid them it's just going to be back online on monday, so any youngpd trying to extract revenge for last years some wag purchasing the lasped young pd address and redirecting it to indymedia.

Paul you and the rest of the Barrett clique will have to wait till monday till the site that you use for your version of the three minute hate is back online.

PaulHughesWH

mycroft wrote:

DNS server fees were forgotten.

they've paid them it's just going to be back online on monday, so any youngpd trying to extract revenge for last years some wag purchasing the lasped young pd address and redirecting it to indymedia.

Paul you and the rest of the Barrett clique will have to wait till monday till the site that you use for your version of the three minute hate is back online.

If I can get a word in edgeways in what is a site devoted to the realm of anti-Irish and liberal bigotry.

foxybrowne

Is that anto-liberal bigotry, or liberal bigotry?

mycroft

PaulHughesWH wrote:

If I can get a word in edgeways in what is a site devoted to the realm of anti-Irish and liberal bigotry.

Compared to that pro irish (translation, everyone who agrees with us) bigotry.

Oh and hey, guardian, and examiner readers aren't the ones who who arrange lynch mobs and beat up and attack those who disagree with them.

If you compare the number of attacks on racial minorities, and the number of attacks on fascists like you (one, and it was pathetic and in UCD and he got an unhealthy amount of pr out of it. ) I think someone like you claiming about bigotry, feeding hate and ignorance in the name of social equality, is like watching a KKKer trying to garner sympathy for the loss of his world in the face of the black rights movement

I had the pleasure of meeting a japanese girl who needed stitches from the rocks thrown at her. By your attitude you and your ilk are the wronged party not the poor student who came here.

I have the same level of sympathy for you that I do for seal cullers decrying their loss of business.

The Corinthian

mycroft wrote:

Oh and hey, guardian, and examiner readers aren't the ones who who arrange lynch mobs and beat up and attack those who disagree with them.

No, they brand them pariahs.

If you compare the number of attacks on racial minorities, and the number of attacks on fascists like you (one, and it was pathetic and in UCD and he got an unhealthy amount of pr out of it. )

How do you know he’s a Fascist? Has he exposed the benefits of the Corporate State lately or are we just bandying a few clichés around?

Oh wait - maybe it’s because he disagrees with you.

mycroft

The Corinthian wrote:

No, they brand them pariahs.

Theres a mild difference between a metaphorical branding, an actual, y'know a beating, branding, taring n feathering. Theres a subtle difference. nazi's and paul, and justin, can survive the words, but y'know in the end of the day its the immirgrations who end up in the emergency room, with said and stick and stones wounds, while barrett and his ilk get to lick their wounds from the press, knowing that "words can only hurt you".

How do you know he’s a Fascist? Has he exposed the benefits of the Corporate State lately or are we just bandying a few clichés around?

Oh wait - maybe it’s because he disagrees with you.

Oh god you got me. Oh no wait a major paper has video of him at a celebration of a SS unit. Now call me nuts, I think anyone who doesn't view national socialism as the most reprehensible western worldview since the inquistion is a psychotic holocaust denying asshole.

But hey call me nuts. I tend to get out of a taxi when the driver starts a sentence with "Now I'm not a racist but....." I think sitting on a platform, while a celebration of the most sinister and vile group created in the last century occurs, and not spitting abuse at any and all there, and damn the reaction, is the behaviour of someone without, y'know, a soul.

So I can see how'd you'd have issues with my worldview.

The Corinthian

mycroft wrote:

Theres a mild difference between a metaphorical branding, an actual, y'know a beating, branding, taring n feathering. Theres a subtle difference.

Like the difference between a concentration camp and internal exile?

Oh god you got me. Oh no wait a major paper has video of him at a celebration of a SS unit.

PaulHughesWH was at a celebration of an SS unit?

mycroft

The Corinthian wrote:

Like the difference between a concentration camp and internal exile?

Cute take one thing I didn't say, and then link it to another thing i didn't say.

Or to put it another way;

Corinthian "Mycroft says he's not gay, therefore, mycroft says it's okay to coral gays into re education camps."

PaulHughesWH was at a celebration of an SS unit?

:rolleyes:

No but Paul here has on several occasions defended Barrett, and if I was on here defending Castro you'd feel no complusion dragging his freedom of the press and oppression of homosexuality up at me.

So y'know, horses for courses.

PaulHughesWH

Fantastic debate, I only asked a question. Is anything else any of your business?

mycroft

PaulHughesWH wrote:

Fantastic debate, I only asked a question. Is anything else any of your business?

Well I dunno its a politics forum so we tend to discuss everything.

I through clenched teeth try to avoid you, and your ilk, who tend to be to me in some way personified, y'know thats everything thats low and base about humanity, and frankly the only thing that stops me from doing what I think you deserve are two things A) who'd clean up the mess? It'd make me no better than a bunch a filthy, hatefilled, xenophobic, assholes who treat a hugh chunk of humanity in the manner you so richly deserve.

The Corinthian

mycroft wrote:

Cute take one thing I didn't say, and then link it to another thing i didn't say.

No. Just saying that you can be a bigot without having to resort to violence, that’s all.

No but Paul here has on several occasions defended Barrett,

Then, on the strength of that overwhelming evidence, he must be a Nazi.

if I was on here defending Castro you'd feel no complusion dragging his freedom of the press and oppression of homosexuality up at me.

You’re comparing Justin Barrett to Castro? I think you need sleep.

But seriously, if you were defending Castro I doubt I’d care. I just saw you viciously attacking another poster and brand him a Nazi because you apparently disagree with him (or simply don’t like him). And frankly the lazy and generally ignorant habit of branding anyone with right wing or politically incorrect views as a Nazi or Fascist just pisses me off.

mycroft

The Corinthian wrote:

. And frankly the lazy and generally ignorant habit of branding anyone with right wing or politically incorrect views as a Nazi or Fascist just pisses me off.

Frankly pissing you off is validation for me.

But I think you'll notice I never refer to Paul as a nazi or a fascist, I refer to the politican he defends as a nazi and a fascist, and when I cited examples of Barretts links with neo nazis groups you shut up about it.

I've condemned Paul, I've described that in no uncertain terms he disgusts and sickens me, something akin to what you did in the above, but I don't refer to him as a nazi, I refer to Barrett as one, and seeing as Barrett, that jug eared, poisonious dwarf, did everything but lead a SS meeting an a Leni Reifenstanl appreication society meeting, I feel confident in calling him a Nazi sympathiser.

But seriously, if you were defending Castro I doubt I’d care.

Uh huh. Yeah see corthinian, you've a history of defending a "politcialy incorrect worldview" (or morally wrong for those of us with any redemning social charististics) without defending it, y'know using facts and figures, see our debate re african debt, you've still not gotten around to y'know refuting anything I said. I think this "charming asshole" persona you've cultivated on boards and reality is wearing thin and you're resorting to defending more and more outrageous positions without merit and relying on sheer chutpzah to try and walk away from it.

The Corinthian

mycroft wrote:

Frankly pissing you off is validation for me.

Ahh... the politics of hate...

But I think you'll notice I never refer to Paul as a nazi or a fascist, I refer to the politican he defends as a nazi and a fascist

Now, that’s a big fat porkey and we both know that. You clearly referred to, in response to Paul, “fascists like you” and when I asked specifically whether it was Paul who was the Fascist, you did not deny your accusation.

and when I cited examples of Barretts links with neo nazis groups you shut up about it.

Because I was never defending Barrett here.

see our debate re african debt, you've still not gotten around to y'know refuting anything I said.

Actually I did refute your arguments. Please come out of this fantasy world you’ve constructed.

I think this "charming asshole" persona you've cultivated on boards and reality is wearing thin and you're resorting to defending more and more outrageous positions without merit and relying on sheer chutpzah to try and walk away from it.

Yet you on the other hand now seem to increasingly rely upon branding those who would consider having distasteful views as ideological pariahs - this entire thread has been little more than you hurling abuse against those you disagree with. If that’s how you win arguments, I’ll stick to chutzpah, thank you.

mycroft

The Corinthian wrote:

Aause I was never defending Barrett here.

Actually I did refute your arguments. Please come out of this fantasy world you’ve constructed.
.

No you just said "I disagree" in a variety of ways over and over again to a host of supporting material, without citing a single source to defend your own point of view, isn't refuting.

Now run allong I think you need to re read the complete writings of Ken Livingstone, in intense detail to find something that offends you

swiss

Unless anyone has anything to add about the original topic, I don't see this thread going anywhere.

MyCroft, I have to agree with the Corinthian that you seem less interested in discussing this topic than you do in throwing barbed comments at whomever you determine to be "fascist". The problem with this confrontational approach is that not only will agression lead to more of the same, but that the tone of dogmatic indignation is not something that is condusive to a cordial conversation or debate.

In other words, tone down your posts please.

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