The aftermath of IRA/INLA "community policing"

mycroft

Last year over a dozen teenagers killed themselves in the ardoyne. Many or most had been on the recieving end of IRA and INLA puinishment beatings and shootings.

The beatings of teenagers are the most visible aspect of the IRA's work and
the sight of young men in wheelchairs or walking with the aid of crutches is
commonplace. These beatings and shootings cause permanent debilitating pain and a large number of young people subjected to this form of violence are taking their own lives. The issue of extraordinary high levels of young men
and women in Catholic areas was highlighted recently in the Ardoyne area
where the local IRA unit was stood down two years ago. The IRA then
sub-contracted the "policing" role to the local group of Irish National
Liberation Army (INLA) people who have carried out horrific beatings on
youths. Seventeen young men have committed suicide in Ardoyne since the
start of the year rather than continue to be subjected to this form of
violence. The rate of teenage suicide in west Belfast and Ardoyne is higher
than in other parts of this island and is way above rates in all other
European countries.

from here

also here

In the light of current events how can the IRA apologists, sorry SF supporters, defend this continued behaviour?

Now before you start yelling about SF condemnation of puinishment beatings, blah, blah, blah, by refusing to join the police board, and the foot dragging support SF gives to the PSNI, they are giving an air of legitimacy to the puinishment beatings, by not offering or supporting the alternative legitimate police service.

Children are dying in droves. Children from the communities SF represent, and these children are dying because of IRA puinishment beatings. Surely SF should demand that IRA community policing squads should desist and put pressure on communties to force the INLA puinishment squads into hiding.

Villain

I would never defend punisment beatings, I like Gerry Adams condemn them no matter who carrys them out. The policing issues need to sorted out, the Paton report has to be implemented in full, so the nationalist community can have fate in the Police force.

You need to realise not every SF voter supports the IRA or their activities.

mycroft

irish1 wrote:

I would never defend punisment beatings, I like Gerry Adams condemn them no matter who carrys them out. The policing issues need to sorted out, the Paton report has to be implemented in full, so the nationalist community can have fate in the Police force.

You need to realise not every SF voter supports the IRA or their activities.

See this is what I'm talking about the passing the buck, the "I don't defend puinishment beating but..." Newsflash you can blame the GFA the Paton report forever, and tut tut all you want but in the end of the day it's republicans going out and kneecapping members of their own communties, and whinging about police reform while this is happening is just sickening

the_syco

SF has some control over the IRA. Not the INLA. The IRSP is the political party in charge of the INLA.

Mr Little (IRSP) wrote:

"If you're asking the question directly, do I believe that the INLA is directly responsible for these young men deaths, I'm telling you I don't believe that they are."

In other words, they are doing it. Its black and white. Anything besides it is a lie.

BCB

mycroft wrote:

Last year over a dozen teenagers killed themselves in the ardoyne. Many or most had been on the recieving end of IRA and INLA puinishment beatings and shootings.



from here

also here

In the light of current events how can the IRA apologists, sorry SF supporters, defend this continued behaviour?

Now before you start yelling about SF condemnation of puinishment beatings, blah, blah, blah, by refusing to join the police board, and the foot dragging support SF gives to the PSNI, they are giving an air of legitimacy to the puinishment beatings, by not offering or supporting the alternative legitimate police service.

Children are dying in droves. Children from the communities SF represent, and these children are dying because of IRA puinishment beatings. Surely SF should demand that IRA community policing squads should desist and put pressure on communties to force the INLA puinishment squads into hiding.

Yes indeed and as we all know The Sunday Independent are the bastion of journalism, :rolleyes: most of that is a crock of **** carefully designed to demonise the Republican movement,next they`ll be saying that saying that every teenager who dies in the North after an attack is the fault of the IRA,its a crock of **** and Jim Cusack and co havent got the facts to back up their outrageous claims,im not going to say that the IRA have are not involved in punishment beatings as they have been,yet these people have deserved to get a hiding,they have terrorised their communties joyriding/burglary/drug dealing,etc while the RUC/PSNI do nothing about it therefore the IRA are left with no choice but to give those responsible a severe beating,most learn their lesson and do not reoffend,those who do have to face the consequences,its rough justice but overall its effective,but to make outrageous claims like Republican hater Jim Cusack has done is just another ploy to as previously stated demonise and discredit the Republican movement and his outrageous claims should be treated with the contempt it deserves

mycroft

BCB wrote:

Yes indeed and as we all know The Sunday Independent are the bastion of journalism, :rolleyes: most of that is a crock of **** carefully designed to demonise the Republican movement,next they`ll be saying that saying that every teenager who dies in the North after an attack is the fault of the IRA,its a crock of **** and Jim Cusack and co havent got the facts to back up their outrageous claims,im not going to say that the IRA have are not involved in punishment beatings as they have been,yet these people have deserved to get a hiding,they have terrorised their communties joyriding/burglary/drug dealing,etc while the RUC/PSNI do nothing about it therefore the IRA are left with no choice but to give those responsible a severe beating,most learn their lesson and do not reoffend,those who do have to face the consequences,its rough justice but overall its effective,but to make outrageous claims like Republican hater Jim Cusack has done is just another ploy to as previously stated demonise and discredit the Republican movement and his outrageous claims should be treated with the contempt it deserves

Translation it's all a lie, and if it isn't a lie sure they got what they deserve cause they're scum and it's what they deserve.

This is the subtext of every SF apology, and if the IRA are commited to peace they should stop.

SF has some control over the IRA. Not the INLA. The IRSP is the political party in charge of the INLA.

The INLA operate because the IRA allow them to operate, if they put pressure on the INLA they'd be forced to disband

mike65

I'm not going to say that the IRA have are not involved in punishment beatings as they have been,yet these people have deserved to get a hiding,they have terrorised their communties joyriding/burglary/drug dealing,etc while the RUC/PSNI do nothing about it therefore the IRA are left with no choice but to give those responsible a severe beating...

The reason the PSNI "do nothing" is cos they are treated as hostile, which of course suits the IRA as that means they can continue to act as thugs and enforcers and make it clear that nationalists stay clear of the PSNI or else...and on it goes.


Mike.