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Korn's Head Leaves Band

  • 22-02-2005 11:08pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 78 ✭✭


    It was announced today that Korn guitarist, Brian 'Head' Welch has left the band, citing 'moral and personal issues'

    He has left the band, mainly because, as a born again Christian, he has problems with what Korn represent. He will also be making a statement at a church group on Sunday, before leaving for Israel at the end of the month.

    Visit www.mtv.com for more information.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,746 ✭✭✭0utshined




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,353 ✭✭✭radiospan


    From the thread title, I was hoping you meant Jonathan Davis had left because he died. :p

    Born again Christian? :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,483 ✭✭✭Töpher


    Israel?

    How does a born again Christian have problems with entertaining a load of stupid 12 year olds? :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 78 ✭✭Cat O'Nine Tail


    That, I object to.

    Yes, I'm a Korn fan, and a pretty big one at that. But I'm by no means 12 years old, and neither are the Korn fans that I speak to on a regular basis. We're all between the ages of 25-34, and are long time Korn fans.

    Head has had a lot of personal problems in his life-addictions to prescription pills, for a start-and if this is the best way for him to deal with it, then so be it. I don't fully understand why he's done it, but I respect him for it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,422 ✭✭✭cajun_tiger


    Aw he's gonna be missed, he's been my all time fave for years!!!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 78 ✭✭Cat O'Nine Tail


    plazzTT wrote:
    From the thread title, I was hoping you meant Jonathan Davis had left because he died. :p

    And as for that...........that's just pathetic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,082 ✭✭✭Tobias Greeshman


    He has left the band, mainly because, as a born again Christian, he has problems with what Korn represent.
    Is this some kinda publicity stunt or something... Korn aren't exactly what Id call an angry band, but they certainly don't preach hatred either.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 78 ✭✭Cat O'Nine Tail


    Is this some kinda publicity stunt or something... Korn aren't exactly what Id call an angry band, but they certainly don't preach hatred either.

    Nope, it's not a publicity stunt. The news was confirmed on Korn.com last night. Plus, Head announced it on a radio station in Bakersfield.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,848 ✭✭✭✭Doctor J


    Meh, big deal. He's made his money, now he's getting out. Give it 10 years and he'll be back for the oul re-union fundraisers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 100 ✭✭[ Daithí ]


    That's a real shame. Korn are one of my favourite bands, and although I prefer Munky, without Head they won't be the same.

    This seems a bit sudden, but I suppose he's been brooding on it for a couple of years now.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 818 ✭✭✭idontknowmyname


    He objects to the morally wrong videos etc that Korn make.....big turn around. ok he's found Christianity but at one point he loved being in the band cause he wouldn't have otherwise. Times change, people change, best of luck for whatever he does in the future


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,848 ✭✭✭✭Doctor J


    I wonder will he return the money he made from those videos and albums or give it away to charidee. After all, it would not be the christian thing to do, to keep money made from such clearly questionable pursuits. Material wealth is un-christian anyway.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,422 ✭✭✭cajun_tiger


    would put it past him...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,480 ✭✭✭projectmayhem


    i find it strange because he's always been the funny one (shagging the plastic sheep on film etc.)...

    all the fans are giving him lots of "respect" and what not but i can't help but think his whole personality within korn was a big act. blabbermouth's reports are saying he was very different outside of korn. truely that makes korn looks pretty bad imo...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,254 ✭✭✭chewy


    born agains or so in denial...

    isn't pod or something a christian heavy metal band can't he do that?

    loud as f*** music positive message?? why quit


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 78 ✭✭Cat O'Nine Tail


    The official statement from Korn.com:

    "Korn has parted ways with guitarist Brian "Head" Welch, who has chosen the Lord Jesus Christ as his savior, and will be dedicating his musical pursuits to that end. Korn respects Brian's wishes and hopes that he finds the happiness he is searching for. Jonathan, Fieldy, James and David are personally closer than ever, and are currently in the studio working on their 8th record, the follow up to their highly successful Greatest Hits album. The record is due to be released this coming September."

    Head isn't giving up completely on music, he's just not playing metal anymore.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 454 ✭✭CrazyTalk


    i suppose its his choice but I think its such a shame...........it is a bit odd though, the guy was said to 'drink beer whilst showering', doesnt seem very christian. Well, thats the end of an era.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    Head has had a lot of personal problems in his life-addictions to prescription pills, for a start-and if this is the best way for him to deal with it, then so be it. I don't fully understand why he's done it, but I respect him for it.

    I can fully understand it. The man is extremely weak-willed. So before he's had addictions, now he's joined America's favorite cult, the movementarians. No wait, born again christians.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,848 ✭✭✭✭Doctor J


    And let's be honest here, Christianity has killed countless more than Metal ever has.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,708 ✭✭✭✭Mr. CooL ICE


    Head isn't giving up completely on music, he's just not playing metal anymore.
    Next he'll be jamming with church choirs, downtuned 7-string and all.

    Not a korn fan but its a pity to see another mind poisoned by bible bashers


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,197 ✭✭✭Spalk0


    Another lost soul has taken the wrong path!

    Shame really!

    I liked Korn an all!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88 ✭✭Seed


    Peoples interpretations of metal/religions have killed countless people.

    Sides, he was my favourite member of the band. Mainly cause of the hair..ah well.


  • Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 12,739 Mod ✭✭✭✭cournioni


    Next he'll be jamming with church choirs, downtuned 7-string and all.
    :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,655 ✭✭✭Ph3n0m


    apparantly some Punk band have issued a tshirt with the slogan


    "Korn gives Head to God"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 98 ✭✭Drevin Fairy


    Why couldnt they all be born-again christians and leave the band simultaniously???


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 drop_dead_fred


    hey i dont care what you people say to me after you read this...but even though it is dissapointing to the fans that head has now left the band i think it is a great thing that he is doing. I like korn as well, not a major fan, but i think it is heaps good that he is chossing to live that life. It just shows that he is truly dedicated. Like i understand that it is dissapointing and upsetting, but he has to do what it is he has to do. So yeah, that is all i have to say about it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 drop_dead_fred


    Doctor J wrote:
    And let's be honest here, Christianity has killed countless more than Metal ever has.
    shut up...there are different types of christianity ok, just get over it, he has chosen the right path. Don't bag out on Christianity becuase you dont even understand what it is all about. Do you not understand all the stuff that Jesus Christ did for you?? I think that you should look more into it before you say stupid things! Another thing whoever said that thing about the cult is a moron. You should respect other people's beliefs, and i fully respect Head for what he is doing. Maybe next time you open you mouth you should fully understand what moronic things are coming out of it...don't just say something beacause you are trying to hard to be 'metal' or something...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,655 ✭✭✭Ph3n0m


    shut up...there are different types of christianity ok, just get over it, he has chosen the right path. Don't bag out on Christianity becuase you dont even understand what it is all about. Do you not understand all the stuff that Jesus Christ did for you?? I think that you should look more into it before you say stupid things! Another thing whoever said that thing about the cult is a moron. You should respect other people's beliefs, and i fully respect Head for what he is doing. Maybe next time you open you mouth you should fully understand what moronic things are coming out of it...don't just say something beacause you are trying to hard to be 'metal' or something...


    ahem the Crusades, the Spanish Inquisition, and many more - all brought to you by religion :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,992 ✭✭✭Korvanica


    Ph3n0m wrote:
    ahem the Crusades, the Spanish Inquisition, and many more - all brought to you by religion :)

    Hear Hear :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,708 ✭✭✭✭Mr. CooL ICE


    Korvanica wrote:
    Hear Hear :D
    And Galileo Galilea being accused of heresy. And don't get me started on priests...


    I can almost hear a mod closing this thread.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 78 ✭✭Cat O'Nine Tail


    shut up...there are different types of christianity ok, just get over it, he has chosen the right path. Don't bag out on Christianity becuase you dont even understand what it is all about. Do you not understand all the stuff that Jesus Christ did for you?? I think that you should look more into it before you say stupid things! Another thing whoever said that thing about the cult is a moron. You should respect other people's beliefs, and i fully respect Head for what he is doing. Maybe next time you open you mouth you should fully understand what moronic things are coming out of it...don't just say something beacause you are trying to hard to be 'metal' or something...

    Don't tell me I don't know what Christianity is all about. From what I've seen recently, it's all about filling people's minds with poisonous propaganda.

    The Spanish Inquisition, the Salem Witch Trials, hell, half the troubles in the North of Ireland boil down to so called Christianity.

    As for Head's decision, yes, I respect it. It's his life, and it's his choice. But when you've got Jonathan Davis admitting on a Korn Korner chat that even he thinks that Brian's been brainwashed, then you begin to wonder just whose words are coming out of Brian's mouth; his own, or the so-called 'pastors' at his 'church'. Maybe they were attracted to him by the size of his bank balance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 454 ✭✭CrazyTalk


    jesus.........didnt know about that. But then again the official KoRn site makes my PC crash. Stupid dial up. ¬_¬


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,592 ✭✭✭Ancient1


    he has chosen the right path.

    He is a weakling slave and so are you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88 ✭✭Seed


    Ph3n0m wrote:
    ahem the Crusades, the Spanish Inquisition, and many more - all brought to you by religion :)

    People started, took part in and ended those. Religion is not to blame, people's weak minds are.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    shut up...there are different types of christianity ok, just get over it, he has chosen the right path. Don't bag out on Christianity becuase you dont even understand what it is all about. Do you not understand all the stuff that Jesus Christ did for you?? I think that you should look more into it before you say stupid things! Another thing whoever said that thing about the cult is a moron. You should respect other people's beliefs, and i fully respect Head for what he is doing. Maybe next time you open you mouth you should fully understand what moronic things are coming out of it...don't just say something beacause you are trying to hard to be 'metal' or something...

    Wow, a brand new account, and you're pushing an agenda?

    I smell a rat. A rat with a new alias.
    So kindly take notice, and if I see another post on your behalf that contains any attemts at indoctrination, I'm going to lay the smack down. Understand?

    As for Christianity being a Cult, I stand by my sentiments. The very way the religion is designed is to propigate the notion that only the believers are right, and everyone else is wrong. Just take a look at what you're saying, "he has chosen the right path."
    So any other path is of course, wrong.

    Anyway, this is all going way off-topic, so lets leave the Movementarians alone for now.


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  • Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 12,739 Mod ✭✭✭✭cournioni


    shut up...there are different types of christianity ok, just get over it, he has chosen the right path. Don't bag out on Christianity becuase you dont even understand what it is all about. Do you not understand all the stuff that Jesus Christ did for you?? I think that you should look more into it before you say stupid things! Another thing whoever said that thing about the cult is a moron. You should respect other people's beliefs, and i fully respect Head for what he is doing. Maybe next time you open you mouth you should fully understand what moronic things are coming out of it...don't just say something beacause you are trying to hard to be 'metal' or something...
    "Satan has me by the balls, no wait he's got me by my left testicle."

    LOL, Jesus Christ did nothing for me. I'm alive today because of science and alot of other things that no one can put their finger on. Religion cause more death than Metal ever has, and that is a fact.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,316 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    Head has had a lot of personal problems in his life-addictions to prescription pills, for a start-and if this is the best way for him to deal with it, then so be it. I don't fully understand why he's done it, but I respect him for it.
    This sounds like just another "phase" to me. Also looks like someone may have told him of the "forgivness" of Jeasus H Christ... after they saw his bank balance.

    Hopefully, he'll join some christain rock band.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 78 ✭✭Cat O'Nine Tail


    But when you've got Jonathan Davis admitting on a Korn Korner chat that even he thinks that Brian's been brainwashed, then you begin to wonder just whose words are coming out of Brian's mouth; his own, or the so-called 'pastors' at his 'church'. Maybe they were attracted to him by the size of his bank balance.


    See above.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    PORNAPSTER wrote:
    I'm alive today because of science.

    You mean you were a test tube baby?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,848 ✭✭✭✭Doctor J


    shut up...there are different types of christianity ok, just get over it, he has chosen the right path. Don't bag out on Christianity becuase you dont even understand what it is all about. Do you not understand all the stuff that Jesus Christ did for you?? I think that you should look more into it before you say stupid things! Another thing whoever said that thing about the cult is a moron. You should respect other people's beliefs, and i fully respect Head for what he is doing. Maybe next time you open you mouth you should fully understand what moronic things are coming out of it...don't just say something beacause you are trying to hard to be 'metal' or something...

    Don't tell me to shut up, Churchy, if your likes were preaching the truth you'd have facts to prove I wasn't telling the truth, but you don't and you never have. I merely stated a fact. Please do some research and prove I am right, because you know I'm only staing fact. Contrary to the attitude of most christians, I am quite open to discussion and debate. Clearly you belong to that most enlightened 'if I don't hear a different opinion to mine I'll never have to question myself' sect of bible bashers who reside safely under a cloak of ignorance and suspicion. Next you'll be shouting "Witch" and setting the bonfires!

    Oh, and for the record, the only thing I try hard to be is myself.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 drop_dead_fred


    I'm an idiot who couldn't take a hint even if it was delivered by a battering ram.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    Drop Dead Fred has been banned for ignoring warnings, and likely being an Alias of another user. Thanks for your time, this thread has gone absolutely nowhere besides off-topic and is now closed.


This discussion has been closed.
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