Irish Team Vs. Scotland (Other 2 links down)

[Jackass]

Ireland Team To Face Scotland (Saturday):

15. G. Murphy
14. S. Horgan
13. B. O'Drisscoll
12. G. D'Arcy
11. D. Hickie
10. R. O'Gara
9. P. Stringer
1. R. Corrigan
2. S. Byrne
3. J. Hayes
4. M. O'Kelly
5. P. O'Connell
6. S. Easterby
7. J. O'Connor
8. A. Foley
Replacements: Sheahan, Horan, O'Callaghan, Miller, G Easterby, Humphreys, Dempsey.

Shrimp

Not a bad line up I must say, but then again, nerither are Scotland witht he way they played last week

eirebhoy

Doubt either of the two centres will play.

[Jackass]

According to sky news, both O'Drsicoll ad D'Arcy are passed fit to play on Saturday, after scans yesterday revealed the two groin strains sufferd by the players versus Italy were not as serious as first suspected, so the only change is Johnny O'Connor coming in for Dennis Leamy at openside flanker.

kazzer

They will have to undergo a fitness test first I imagine.

[Jackass]

Personnally i would prefer to see them both rested for the scottish game, in preperation for the English game, as i think our backline would still be far to strong for the scotish without them, i imagine at least one of them will be sidelined by Eddie O'Sullivan (Mr.Catious) but then again, is he so catious would he risk both of them to avoid risking defeat?

Nukem

DubGuy22 wrote:

Personnally i would prefer to see them both rested for the scottish game, in preperation for the English game

Think you are right - dont care what you pull but if its at full tilt it has to hurt.
They cant be 100% though? Although both of them limped off the plane with no crutches and were moving ok just with a slight limp.Lets hope if they play they dont injury themselves again.

Downtime

O'Sullivan said that he would give them until the last minutes before kick off to "cry-off"

gutta

Nukem wrote:

Although both of them limped off the plane with no crutches and were moving ok just with a slight limp.

You know what? The whole thing was fabricated... It's just gamesmanship.

EOS said to the lads before the match 'OK lads, the both of youze pull up with a fake injury whenever it looks like we're going to win, create this whole furore about the midfield partnership coming adrift and confuse the oppositions down the road'.

(I know, I was in the dressing room, I'm the Gatorade carrier).

Anyways, the pair of them had to concentrate really hard to keep up the limp off the plane, they were both tangoing away after the Italians were sent to bed after the afters without a bother. Pair o' big girls' blouses, not doing their reputations any good with the rest of the fellas on the team but the press is in a tizzy and the Scots have wet their panties at the fabricated opportunity.

Mark my words & watch 'em both run in a brace of tries each come the Scots.

uberwolf

see the gamesmanship theory occured to me. But it's not the case. Not against scotland. Famous last words but we shouldn't need either of teh two to play to win that game, there's no need to psyche out teh Scots and it was too early in a close game to pull D'Arcy off for the craic.

I don't think they'll both line out, and I certainly don't see either playing the full game.

Certainly no need to risk them IMHO

Nukem

gutta wrote:

Mark my words & watch 'em both run in a brace of tries each come the Scots.

Doubt they will play and if they do it wont be for the 80mins if they are injured.
Why would D'arcy pretend to pull anything in full flight and while doing a move.And BOD has had a very similar injury to this before so i doubt they are faking it.

BolBill

gutta wrote:

You know what? The whole thing was fabricated... It's just gamesmanship.

EOS said to the lads before the match 'OK lads, the both of youze pull up with a fake injury whenever it looks like we're going to win, create this whole furore about the midfield partnership coming adrift and confuse the oppositions down the road'.

(I know, I was in the dressing room, I'm the Gatorade carrier).

Anyways, the pair of them had to concentrate really hard to keep up the limp off the plane, they were both tangoing away after the Italians were sent to bed after the afters without a bother. Pair o' big girls' blouses, not doing their reputations any good with the rest of the fellas on the team but the press is in a tizzy and the Scots have wet their panties at the fabricated opportunity.

Mark my words & watch 'em both run in a brace of tries each come the Scots.

Jaysus people, hold yis r noses because theres an awful smell of shít

jonno

Strong lineup and I reckon good enough to beat the Scots with or without the centres. I think Horgan and Payne would be enough to beat them. I don't see them both playing a full 80 min and I woudl hope that EOS wouldn't risk them if they are not 100%. Although they do have a 2 week break till the England game.

The Rooster

Our pack is goina be more important than our backs this week. Thankfully O'Concrete has replaced Leamy, and lets hope he'll do the business.

And hopefully Foley and O'Connell will turn up this week.

daveirl

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kazzer

You know what? The whole thing was fabricated... It's just gamesmanship.

EOS said to the lads before the match 'OK lads, the both of youze pull up with a fake injury whenever it looks like we're going to win, create this whole furore about the midfield partnership coming adrift and confuse the oppositions down the road'.

(I know, I was in the dressing room, I'm the Gatorade carrier).

Anyways, the pair of them had to concentrate really hard to keep up the limp off the plane, they were both tangoing away after the Italians were sent to bed after the afters without a bother. Pair o' big girls' blouses, not doing their reputations any good with the rest of the fellas on the team but the press is in a tizzy and the Scots have wet their panties at the fabricated opportunity.

Mark my words & watch 'em both run in a brace of tries each come the Scots.

So youre the 'Gatorade' carrier are you??? The team use Powerade (or Lucozade sport) I thought! :rolleyes:

Crash

kazzer wrote:

So youre the 'Gatorade' carrier are you??? The team use Powerade (or Lucozade sport) I thought! :rolleyes:

/me does an after match O'Driscoll on it

spanner

kazzer wrote:

So youre the 'Gatorade' carrier are you??? The team use Powerade (or Lucozade sport) I thought! :rolleyes:

haha good spot, as mammy said "lairs get no where"

you should be a lawyer

jonno

Well BOD is out and a decision on D'Arcy will be made tomorrow.
So hopefully D'Arcy will make it and join Shaggy in the centre with Dempsey or Payne on the wing.

rubberduckey

Bad news confirmed, Darcy is out!

Horgan/Maggs in centre, dempsey on the wing.

Hairy Homer

Sweet divine!!!

Dempsey on the wing. What are you on, O'Sullivan? For any number of reasons this should not be countenanced. Dempsey is a solid reliable if unexciting full back. What the hell use is a solid reliable unexciting winger??Especially when we have two solid (OK very solid) beefcakes in the centre??

Then there's the political picture. What does Ulster have to do to get representation on this side? Propose Gerry Adams for a Nobel Peace Prize? Why not take a chance on somebody like Bowe? Or Wallace (Paddy, that is)?

Come on, Eddy. Face up to your responsibilities. Or the day will come when the whole country will take delight in an Irish team without a single Corkman on it. I don't think that's ever happened before. Every Irish team that ever ran out on a pitch had at least one Corkman on it. Usually from Cork Con.

Some of them were even worthy of their places.


Thank God it's only Scotland.......

The Rooster

There are certainly better wingers available than the Swerve. But just because they have certain numbers on their back does not mean they will play in those positions (albeit such "games" rarely happen in rugby, as they would, for instance, in gaelic games).

Thornley mentioned in the Irish Times earlies this week (Monday AFAIR) that one possibility would be to play like this:

11 Hickie
12 Maggs
13 Murphy
14 Horgan
15 Dempsey

IMO that would be the most effective way of placing those 5 players.

I hate the thought of Horgan at outside centre. Sure, he's well capable of doing great, but IMO he's the worst decision maker in world rugby!! So often picks the wrong option, which can have terrible consequences. Leave him on the wing where all he has to concentrate on is running and tackling -which he will do as well and anybody.

eirebhoy

eirebhoy wrote:

Doubt either of the two centres will play.

I only found out recently that Darcy and O'Driscoll were centres. Haven't a clue about the game tbh.

The Rooster

The Rooster wrote:

There are certainly better wingers available than the Swerve. But just because they have certain numbers on their back does not mean they will play in those positions (albeit such "games" rarely happen in rugby, as they would, for instance, in gaelic games).

Thornley mentioned in the Irish Times earlies this week (Monday AFAIR) that one possibility would be to play like this:

11 Hickie
12 Maggs
13 Murphy
14 Horgan
15 Dempsey

IMO that would be the most effective way of placing those 5 players.

I hate the thought of Horgan at outside centre. Sure, he's well capable of doing great, but IMO he's the worst decision maker in world rugby!! So often picks the wrong option, which can have terrible consequences. Leave him on the wing where all he has to concentrate on is running and tackling -which he will do as well and anybody.

That's a bit harsh, and he's playing out of his skin recently for Leinster!
I like him, a big fella with a bit of pace, but he's very route one, the reason his partnership with O'Driscoll worked well was that he'd punch a hole, and O'Driscoll would exploit the gaps, i'm not sure he will function well in the role of Outside Centre at all!

tHE vAGGABOND

Gavin Duffy getting into the squad is no bad thing tho..

Have seen him a few times for Quinn's over here and he looks very impressive, speed, angles of running etc etc.

I can only think he will be a key man come the next world cup; so time with the boys in the squads and a few caps wont do any harm..

daveirl

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rubberduckey

Hi daveirl, I'm always quite impressed with your rugby knowledge. Have been talking about Gavin Duffy recently, in my humble opinion I'd like to see him go to Munster next season just cause our backline is a bit stale and he fits the age profile. Would also like to see if the Brian Carney deal can possibly happen. If you were to re-invigorate the munster backline with Ireland qualified players who would you be looking to sign. Are there any 'sleepers' out there that you know of? i.e. Boss the NZ scrumhalf going to Ulster and qualifying for Ireland.

Thoughts appreciated.