Legality of p2p?

Fanny Cradock

what the title said - What is the current legality of downloading programs from kaaza, edonkey etc.?

i heard that making files available (i.e. uploading) was illegal but that downloading wasn't! is this true?? im asking in mostly relation to Ireland, but i was wondering if there is a wider EU or worldwide ruling on the matter?

i know someone in the US who recently received a letter from her isp informing her that they know she's been up to no good and bad stuff will happen soooon :eek: ! basically it was a non specific threatining letter! however, i think that it's highly unlikely that an isp would seek to sue somebody because they broke someone elses copyright.



i know im in the wrong section but i couldnt be arsed finding the appropriate one.

Ciaran500

Downloading off p2p is perfectly legal as long as you are downloading something legal. :rolleyes:

Getting any game/program/music thats not freeware off them is illegal.

fade2black

Yeah and taping songs off the radio and taping west wing off the telly is illegal.....come get me.

aidan_walsh

Ciaran500 wrote:

Downloading off p2p is perfectly legal as long as you are downloading something legal. :rolleyes:

Getting any game/program/music thats not freeware off them is illegal.

INAL ALERT!!! There should be no issue if you already bought the original media and use the original serial number, as you have purchased a license to use the software. Problem is, without the original media, this is difficult to prove unless it required registration with the publisher/developer.

Capt'n Midnight

fade2black wrote:

Yeah and taping songs off the radio and taping west wing off the telly is illegal.....come get me.

Recording for "time delay listening/viewing" for your own use is perfectly legal.
Selling or distributing would be illegal.

Fanny Cradock

so0 the answer is unequivocally clear then - its illegal to download, errr...illegal downloads.

shame, i thought there was a grey area where we could all download illegally under the full protection of the law. guess not

aidan_walsh

Franny Cradock wrote:

i thought there was a grey area where we could all download illegally under the full protection of the law.

Highlighted for inherent stupidity.

Sorry, but its true.

radiospan

It's probably illegal, but so is skipping past the ads in America. :-)

They were trying to pass a law over there that would technically make it illegal to not watch the ads during TV programmes!

Fanny Cradock

doodle_sketch wrote:

Highlighted for inherent stupidity.

Obviously the subtle tones of sarcasm escape your comprehension.

**** u!

CuLT

Indeed doodle, that did appear to be a sarcastic comment rather than stupid

aidan_walsh

In that case, why ask the question at all if he knew well what the answer was??

Fanny Cradock

thank you cult




doodle, i didn't know the answer originally and therefore i asked the question.

no more smart(?) comments please

ViperVenoM

Fanny Cradock wrote:

i think that it's highly unlikely that an isp would seek to sue somebody because they broke someone elses copyright.

heh my isp booted me off the other week..for downloading.."things"..i had to write em a letter saying ive removed the file and i wont do it again... before they would let me connect again..

yeh right :rolleyes:

dont worry though no one ere will ave this isp its our own isp that you can only get in our town and in england anyway but ..meh..cheeky sods!

mad m

Go on dare you, name and shame the ISP who waved its fist at you.

ViperVenoM

well i dont mind its Karoo

but like i said it wont bother any of you guys..but hey feel free to pop over to england and torch the bastards...although it was hiliarious when i got there with my fake letter

woman at desk - How can i help you

me - i was told to bring in a signed letter to get me account reactivated

woman - *reads*

me - *whistles*

woman ..ok think this is ok let me just ring someone...*hello..yes...yeh weve got ANOTHER of these letters already today*

me - looks at watch - 9:14am (i dont do mornings but ..hell i was netless :eek: )...*sniggers*

ran home and life was good...up to now

Syth

plazzTT wrote:

It's probably illegal, but so is skipping past the ads in America. :-)

They were trying to pass a law over there that would technically make it illegal to not watch the ads during TV programmes!

They actually have passed a law (or made a regulation or something) that makes it illegal to sell (make?) something that can skip past the ads (if the TV station doesn't want you skip past the ads). So a fastforward button would be illegal to use (sometimes) on new machines.

monster_fighter

doodle_sketch wrote:

INAL ALERT!!! There should be no issue if you already bought the original media and use the original serial number, as you have purchased a license to use the software. Problem is, without the original media, this is difficult to prove unless it required registration with the publisher/developer.

There is no "fair use" provision in Irish law.

However, I cannot see any judge handing down a fine for making a copy of legally held material for personal use (though they technically could).