Ferraris for sale - where?

Kersh

Specifically 308/328/348 or 365 gt4 bb/512bb/512bbi or testarossas. Anyone know where in Ireland there are any for sale?

Silvera

I'm not aware of a Ferrari owners club in the Republic ....... there may be one up North.

Another option would be to get in touch with somebody who services them and may be able to point you in the right direction - e.g. Howard Langridge in Naas.
(I don't have contact details for him as yet. You could get his details through the Porsche Owners Club : www.porsche-club-ireland.ie)

Silvera.

shagman

There's one for sale in the car showrooms in Rathdrum Co' Wicklow. Don't know what model though.If you buy it can I have a go

Kersh

Thats not a bad idea, Im in the Porsche club so Ill give it a try. Ill probably get slagged by the lads for thinking about switching marques... .

Dades

Kersh wrote:

Ill probably get slagged by the lads for thinking about switching marques... .

Yeah, those Porsche owners can be so mean...

stratos

We used to have a porsche on our house with a sliding door.

mike65

Stratos banned for worst joke on boards today!

Mike.

stratos

My work here is done.

lomb

not a classic car so slightly off thread but newlands motor company here in clondalkin have a sky blue late 2004 ferrari 360 spyder convertible. hes looking for 300 grand and has been unable to sell it. its in the window if anyone is passing.

stratos

300 hundred grand for a car, staggering. if I paid more than about 1500 i'd need oxygen. Saw a story on tv about a guy always wanted a gt 40. He didn't have the readies. He went out and bought a second hand bodyshell, and for the next 20 years bought each part individually as an when he had a few spare coins. he now has a gt 40. he says his sons can't wait for him to pass on, so they can get it. He says no way he's getting buried in it. Anyone got a shovel. Still you gotta admire his dedication/stupidity not sure which.

stratos

The Atheist wrote:

Yeah, those Porsche owners can be so mean...

rotflmao

Kersh

kmick

http://homepage.tinet.ie/~pkanters/showroom.html

kmick

There is also a number of models on
www.cbg.ie
www.autotrader.ie
Get me one as well.

Mr. Presentable

Don't know the name of the garage - it's opposite Lidl (or is it Aldi?) at Belgard. At the edge of Cookstown Ind Est. Red Ferrari, used. Don't know the model, just happened to notice it in passing last night.

lomb

stratos wrote:

300 hundred grand for a car, staggering. if I paid more than about 1500 i'd need oxygen.

lol, yeah yer man has all the nice cars, has a 2000 bentley, a 2003 911, a 2003 cl500, a 2002 range rover. some operation but not sure what he does cause see the same cars day in day out

PaulK_CCI

Sorry Kmick, that is a link to my old inactive webpage....

please look at http://welcome.to/classiccarsireland

Regarding Ferrari's

"Kelly's", the Renault dealer in Rathdrum has a selection of new and 2nd hand ferraris, Aston Martins and Porsches, but these are generally only a couple of years old, and quite expensive.

Importing these type of cars from the UK or the Continent, will mean you're liable for VRT duties because they're younger than 30 years, and for that reason alone, importing a Ferrari of that vintage is going to set you back quite a lot.
A trick is to import a LHD Ferrari, because the VRT office will knock 25% off the Open Market value of a left hand drive car, on which it bases the actual duty. This means that you generally end up considerably cheaper importing a "younger" Left hand drive.

To answer your original question, yes, I do know several Very good condition 308, 328, 512 and other Ferrari's for sale. Let me know what you're looking for specifically, and I can give you a few examples.

By the way, I would ONLY purchase through specialists, and I would only get involved with very good to extremely good condition cars, not with the "cheaper" end of the scale, because in my experience that saving is lost very quickly as soon as the bills start rolling in!!

I always say that the easy bit of Ferrari ownership is purchasing one !! That's a piece of cake.... It's the maintaining it and keeping it on the road, that proves very difficult to new owners

lomb

PaulK_CCI wrote:

Sorry Kmick, that is a link to my old inactive webpage....

please look at http://welcome.to/classiccarsireland

Regarding Ferrari's

"Kelly's", the Renault dealer in Rathdrum has a selection of new and 2nd hand ferraris, Aston Martins and Porsches, but these are generally only a couple of years old, and quite expensive.

Importing these type of cars from the UK or the Continent, will mean you're liable for VRT duties because they're younger than 30 years, and for that reason alone, importing a Ferrari of that vintage is going to set you back quite a lot.
A trick is to import a LHD Ferrari, because the VRT office will knock 25% off the Open Market value of a left hand drive car, on which it bases the actual duty. This means that you generally end up considerably cheaper importing a "younger" Left hand drive.

To answer your original question, yes, I do know several Very good condition 308, 328, 512 and other Ferrari's for sale. Let me know what you're looking for specifically, and I can give you a few examples.

By the way, I would ONLY purchase through specialists, and I would only get involved with very good to extremely good condition cars, not with the "cheaper" end of the scale, because in my experience that saving is lost very quickly as soon as the bills start rolling in!!

I always say that the easy bit of Ferrari ownership is purchasing one !! That's a piece of cake.... It's the maintaining it and keeping it on the road, that proves very difficult to new owners

Tbh i heard ferrari 355s and they are reliable as far as ferraris go need cambelts every 24000 miles at 3500-5000 euro. engines need rebuilding, and parts are crazy money.
hey paul what your experiance of silver shadows, were coming onto the point next year of 30 year old shadow 2's. can a good one be run on a budget. and does service history really affect the price once its in ireland?

PaulK_CCI

lomb wrote:

Tbh i heard ferrari 355s and they are reliable as far as ferraris go need cambelts every 24000 miles at 3500-5000 euro. engines need rebuilding, and parts are crazy money.

Not sure exactly, but yes, Ferrari's tend to go through their cambelts every 30-50k miles and engine out jobs on Ferrari's don't come cheap. Also your parts are very expensive. For example, the Ferrari 400's that you pick up for peanuts nowadays: I recommend anyone to do a search for pricing an exhaust system for a Ferrari. You will find some interesting costs!!! If you want to put a stainless steel exhaust on 400 it's going to set you back about 4k. If I;m not mistaken, a 512BB takes the biscuit with something along the lines of 8,000 euro;s for a full exhaust in SS!!!

lomb wrote:

hey paul what your experiance of silver shadows, were coming onto the point next year of 30 year old shadow 2's. can a good one be run on a budget. and does service history really affect the price once its in ireland?

Silver Shadows are generally fairly reliable, but since they've become so cheap, a lot of them have been run on a shoestring, with a lot of the essential maintenance just simple not done or ignored. So if you buy the wrong car, you could be looking at very high maintenance bills. As with Ferrari, parts are generally very expensive, making them difficult to keep up. By the way, the difference between the series 2 and one mean nothing if you ignore the maintenance history. A very well looked after series 0ne is going to be 10 times more reliable than an early series 2 with a flaky history!!

I always say that if you intend to run a classic on a Budget, forget makes like Rolls Royce, Jaguar, Aston Martin, Ferrari, Maserati, because it's simply not going to work out. If you're lucky you can get a couple of years troublefree motoring out of the car, but what you're effectively doing is postponing the more expensive maintenance, which is inherent in those thoroughbred cars, and land it on the next hapless soul who thinks he/she has landed him/herself a bargain!!!

Kersh

Thanks Paul,
yes I know the vrt is dear. I got quoted 16000 euro for a 1990 rhd 348. 13000 for a 1987 rhd 328, and 8000 for a 1981 rhd 308. It would kill me to hand over that much money to the government, it really would. Id sooner move to the UK, and get a job as an instructor at Bedford or something.
So that leaves pre 75 cars = Fibreglass 308, or a 365 bb. Both of which there arent many knockin around.
I am still waiting for a quote off vrt for a testarossa. A Ferrari club member reckons he was quoted 12000 for a 1990/91 TR, but that sounds a little low for a 90/91.

hawkmoon269

kersh,

Des Cullen cars in Rathgar bring in quite a few Ferraris, mainly newer ones, but it might be worth giving them a call, they may be able to give you some tips (in addition to the very sensible ones PaulK has given).

Also Dermot Wallace in Ballsbridge has the odd older Ferrari every once in a while.

I salute your taste - those 1970s' and 1980's Ferraris are definitely my favourite classics.

lomb

PaulK_CCI wrote:

Not sure exactly, but yes, Ferrari's tend to go through their cambelts every 30-50k miles and engine out jobs on Ferrari's don't come cheap. Also your parts are very expensive. For example, the Ferrari 400's that you pick up for peanuts nowadays: I recommend anyone to do a search for pricing an exhaust system for a Ferrari. You will find some interesting costs!!! If you want to put a stainless steel exhaust on 400 it's going to set you back about 4k. If I;m not mistaken, a 512BB takes the biscuit with something along the lines of 8,000 euro;s for a full exhaust in SS!!!


Silver Shadows are generally fairly reliable, but since they've become so cheap, a lot of them have been run on a shoestring, with a lot of the essential maintenance just simple not done or ignored. So if you buy the wrong car, you could be looking at very high maintenance bills. As with Ferrari, parts are generally very expensive, making them difficult to keep up. By the way, the difference between the series 2 and one mean nothing if you ignore the maintenance history. A very well looked after series 0ne is going to be 10 times more reliable than an early series 2 with a flaky history!!

I always say that if you intend to run a classic on a Budget, forget makes like Rolls Royce, Jaguar, Aston Martin, Ferrari, Maserati, because it's simply not going to work out. If you're lucky you can get a couple of years troublefree motoring out of the car, but what you're effectively doing is postponing the more expensive maintenance, which is inherent in those thoroughbred cars, and land it on the next hapless soul who thinks he/she has landed him/herself a bargain!!!

wouldnt touch aston, ferrari, maserati or certain jags, but i reakon the rolls (or a porsche) are a more interesting proposition as they were built properly to begin with. as u say u want one thats had money no object care,drive it for a few years and let it on.

series 2s have dual split aircon and handle better so i reakon id wait a few years to get one. really have a lot of road presense, very nice cars.

lomb

PaulK_CCI wrote:

Not sure exactly, but yes, Ferrari's tend to go through their cambelts every 30-50k miles and engine out jobs on Ferrari's don't come cheap. Also your parts are very expensive. For example, the Ferrari 400's that you pick up for peanuts nowadays: I recommend anyone to do a search for pricing an exhaust system for a Ferrari. You will find some interesting costs!!! If you want to put a stainless steel exhaust on 400 it's going to set you back about 4k. If I;m not mistaken, a 512BB takes the biscuit with something along the lines of 8,000 euro;s for a full exhaust in SS!!!


Silver Shadows are generally fairly reliable, but since they've become so cheap, a lot of them have been run on a shoestring, with a lot of the essential maintenance just simple not done or ignored. So if you buy the wrong car, you could be looking at very high maintenance bills. As with Ferrari, parts are generally very expensive, making them difficult to keep up. By the way, the difference between the series 2 and one mean nothing if you ignore the maintenance history. A very well looked after series 0ne is going to be 10 times more reliable than an early series 2 with a flaky history!!

I always say that if you intend to run a classic on a Budget, forget makes like Rolls Royce, Jaguar, Aston Martin, Ferrari, Maserati, because it's simply not going to work out. If you're lucky you can get a couple of years troublefree motoring out of the car, but what you're effectively doing is postponing the more expensive maintenance, which is inherent in those thoroughbred cars, and land it on the next hapless soul who thinks he/she has landed him/herself a bargain!!!

can one not just have say an exaust custom made for a ferrari for a few hundred, using the exaust can of something else? why do u need oem parts?

Kersh

Originality, quality, Tubis on 348 are a good example. Some people are just real picky...Im the same with the 911, anything I get for it is an oem replacement. Cos I want it to look original.
But that said....8 grand..jaysus!!

ambro25

One 'classic shape' (308-type) currently FS in small dealer in Dublin 6, road parallel & just behind lower leeson street, across from that big hotel what's-its-name... Oh I shut up , useless with street names/Friday night, brain not in gear no more

lomb

Kersh wrote:

Originality, quality, Tubis on 348 are a good example. Some people are just real picky...Im the same with the 911, anything I get for it is an oem replacement. Cos I want it to look original.
But that said....8 grand..jaysus!!

crazy money for a bit of piping not worth 8 more like 1500euro at most.

Kersh

Please try and remember....

lomb

PaulK_CCI wrote:

Not sure exactly, but yes, Ferrari's tend to go through their cambelts every 30-50k miles and engine out jobs on Ferrari's don't come cheap. Also your parts are very expensive.

was just reading what cars guide on ferrari f355 -
Best 'small' Ferrari ever. Should be bought to use rather than as an investment, though they hold their value well. But everyone knows that, so they cost a fortune - if you can find one.
Needs huge maintenance. Clutch cables can snap, brake discs rust, engines are temperamental, new timing belts needed after 12k miles


sure thats crazy, 3000 stg every 12000 miles £4stg a mile for cam belt replacement. bonkers :rolleyes:

PaulK_CCI

lomb wrote:

new timing belts needed after 12k miles

Sorry Lomb, but I'd say whoever published that must have gotten their info wrong... that's not quite how bad it is!
For example on a 308QV, (so a 355 would most definitely be able to do better !!!) Ferrari themselves claim first major service to be done at 15k miles (which doesn't include the cambelts, just checking and tightening them), and cambelts change at 30k miles. Which is still not great compared to other cars, but not as bad as 12k....
However, I'm sure there are "pub story" tales of cars that have required a cambelt change at 12k, but I would predict excessive wear and tear due to incorrect use would be a more suitable explanation.

lomb

PaulK_CCI wrote:

Sorry Lomb, but I'd say whoever published that must have gotten their info wrong... that's not quite how bad it is!
For example on a 308QV, (so a 355 would most definitely be able to do better !!!) Ferrari themselves claim first major service to be done at 15k miles (which doesn't include the cambelts, just checking and tightening them), and cambelts change at 30k miles. Which is still not great compared to other cars, but not as bad as 12k....
However, I'm sure there are "pub story" tales of cars that have required a cambelt change at 12k, but I would predict excessive wear and tear due to incorrect use would be a more suitable explanation.

your probably right, it does sound nuts, thats why i quoted it. i just thought if thats ferrari ownership then they can keep it!

Kersh

308/328 cambelt change is not too bad pricewise c500stg, but the 348.355/tr is an engine out cambelt change , garages in UK charge c850 for that. Most cars every 30k/3 to 4 years. Afaik the belts have to be done every 3/4 years even if you only do 10 miles. The other side is a clutch on a TR is supposed to last just 12-15k miles. Thats not a lot.....

lomb

Kersh wrote:

308/328 cambelt change is not too bad pricewise c500stg, but the 348.355/tr is an engine out cambelt change , garages in UK charge c850 for that. Most cars every 30k/3 to 4 years. Afaik the belts have to be done every 3/4 years even if you only do 10 miles. The other side is a clutch on a TR is supposed to last just 12-15k miles. Thats not a lot.....

i seriously doubt a main ferrari dealer will change a cambelt for 500-850 or even a ferrari specialist for that matter. more like 2.5-3k stg. ferrari ownership is only for the rich/brave/stupid preferably the first of them.

Kersh

Try a few of the ferrari garages in the UK..Verdi, khpc, etc, they have fixed price servicing of various ferraris, and they are the average price, trust me , its not rocket science, they are only cars, its just the stamps in the service book hold the value up. Its defo not thousands of pounds stg for a cambelt service...One of the garages charges c1750stg for a cambelt+18k service...
I have a folder of all the info I need for ferrari ownership. I have been lokking for over a year now.

Borzoi

BTW Charles Hurst (Boucher Rd, Belfast) were avertising a selection of Ferraris and Maseratis in the yesterdays Sunday Tribune

lomb

Kersh wrote:

Try a few of the ferrari garages in the UK..Verdi, khpc, etc, they have fixed price servicing of various ferraris, and they are the average price, trust me , its not rocket science, they are only cars, its just the stamps in the service book hold the value up. Its defo not thousands of pounds stg for a cambelt service...One of the garages charges c1750stg for a cambelt+18k service...
I have a folder of all the info I need for ferrari ownership. I have been lokking for over a year now.

i believe you are right. a quick search turned up a ferrari specialist willing to change cambelts on a 355 for 850quid.
what ferrari are u looking for?

Kersh

A 308/328/348 or a Testarossa/512/365bb. I have given myself 12 months to find the right one, Ill be approaching 30 then, so itll be a present for me... .
I am doing alot of 'research' on the various models. Testarossa is favourite though.

lomb

Kersh wrote:

A 308/328/348 or a Testarossa/512/365bb. I have given myself 12 months to find the right one, Ill be approaching 30 then, so itll be a present for me... .
I am doing alot of 'research' on the various models. Testarossa is favourite though.

what budget do u have, have u factored insurance on it?

Kersh

Garage policy covers insurance,
Budget c 70000 euro.
I could possibly be swayed by a 964 turbo....porsches are great.

the jakinator

ther Are ferraris for sale in dublin in a car shop accross the road from the burlington hotel!:cool:

MercMad

Another option would be to get in touch with somebody who services them and may be able to point you in the right direction - e.g. Howard Langridge in Naas.
(I don't have contact details for him as yet. You could get his details through the Porsche Owners Club

.............Howard Langridge passed away about a month ago ! Not sure if his garage even exists now !

A guy I know paid €25,000 VRT on a 1997 355 ! Seems cheap compared to your figures !

Kersh

Booo, the ferrari is on hold , bought a new race car (see sig), so I havent bothered to sell any of the road or other race cars, so the ferrari oney is tied up. .
I did get a 12000eu quote for Vrt for a 1987 testarossa. Maybe by the time i sell my fleet to get the ferrari, VRT will be gone...:D

V6 Alfa

To get the car you want you will have to import it. I lived in Zurich for three years and drove a Mondial. They have an excellent selection of ferraris at low costs (because the country is so rich, have so many second hand ferraris knocking about)

You can see what I mean by visiting this site. Its like their version of Car Buyers Guide. Prices are in Swiss Franc, so will be even lees in Euros (about 2 thrids the price)

http://www.autopool.ch/AS24Web/List.aspx?wl=1&lng=ger&from=Home&make=27&cur=CHF&zipcountry=CH&total=548&sort=price

VRT will be gone in 12 months...

Now I drive a 3.0l V6 24v Alfa GTV. Love it!

Kersh

The only snag there is that I have vrt and vat to pay. Cos its from a non EU country.

SirDaniels

Hi there, I have a fantastic Ferrari 348TB for sale. Its in fabulous condition and is unmarked through out. There is 38,552 miles on the clock. It comes with a very rare interior for the 348 which is the cream leather over red carpet and cream and black leather dash. If you want to give me a call for viewing or some pictures you can get me on 085-7352416. Daniel

Whitedoor

Kersh wrote: »

Garage policy covers insurance,
Budget c 70000 euro.
I could possibly be swayed by a 964 turbo....porsches are great.

After all this time what this would amount money buy now?

Did u ever buy a ferrari

ahal

This thread is almost 5 years old.

Whitedoor

I know , just interested to see what happened

unkel

He did buy a fibreglass 308

Jeez, second zombie thread I'm keeping open today. I must be getting soft...