pot belly

PowerHouseDan · 31-01-2005 5:01pm #1

Used to big into the trainin,but college etc slacked off,Have a bit of a pot belly whats the best way of losing it,I have cut out the crap food etc,

joe. · 31-01-2005 5:02pm

Jog

Drapper · 31-01-2005 5:07pm

joe. wrote:

Jog

forget jog !! tke up power walking ! and manage you heart rates to burn it off !!!

jogging is no good for starting a weight loss plan !!

Thorbar · 31-01-2005 5:14pm

I'm in somewhat of the same situation, although I wouldn't say I have a pot belly now I can pinch about an inch on my stomach and I reckon if I keep this up I'll be a fatty before I know it. I'm not looking for something that will give me amazing short term results, I'm looking for a way to change my life style which over time will benefit me. Does anyone know of a good resource of the net where you can get a work out plan and a diet plan that suit each other and are long term sustainable and not just crash weight loss? Failing that is there some sort of specialist I could go to who would tailor make a workout plan and eating plan for me?

Drapper · 31-01-2005 5:15pm

Thorbar wrote:

I'm in somewhat of the same situation, although I wouldn't say I have a pot belly now I can pinch about an inch on my stomach and I reckon if I keep this up I'll be a fatty before I know it. I'm not looking for something that will give me amazing short term results, I'm looking for a way to change my life style which over time will benefit me. Does anyone know of a good resource of the net where you can get a work out plan and a diet plan that suit each other and are long term sustainable and not just crash weight loss? Failing that is there some sort of specialist I could go to who would tailor make a workout plan and eating plan for me?

http://www.polar-uk.com/index.html

or

https://www.polarpersonaltrainer.com/wm/

Khannie · 02-02-2005 12:32pm

Drapper wrote:

jogging is no good for starting a weight loss plan !!

Why not?

I run on a treadmill twice a week (cycle quite a bit too). My treadmill session is heart rate controlled. I keep my heart rate in the upper end of my cardio zone for 25-30 minutes (I vary time and intensity). I was under the impression that this was a fine way of ridding myself of unwanted fat (along with eating reasonably well).

logic1 · 02-02-2005 4:35pm

Khannie wrote:

Why not?

I run on a treadmill twice a week (cycle quite a bit too). My treadmill session is heart rate controlled. I keep my heart rate in the upper end of my cardio zone for 25-30 minutes (I vary time and intensity). I was under the impression that this was a fine way of ridding myself of unwanted fat (along with eating reasonably well).

Depends if you're holding alot of muscle mass aswell which you don't want to eat into. Jogging is very catabolic and muscle isone of the first tissues to be eaten into when you're in need of quick calories.

If you're not worried about loosing muscle along with fat jog away.

.logic.

Mr E · 02-02-2005 5:04pm

Is all cardio catabolic?
Are some exercises worse than others?

Transform · 03-02-2005 1:41pm

Not necessarily.

Jogging or any form of aerobic exercise only becomes catabolic when excessive lactic acid is produced.

jogging done for the purpose of fat loss should be completed at the lower end of the heart rate zone (60-65%) and even then this does not mean its optimal as you can still be producing excessive lactic acid and going into anerobic (hence not burning fat).

Most people excercise at too high of an intensity when looking to drop body fat and just end up burning their blood sugars and stored carbohydrates. If you get tested properly (VO2 max test) some pople can produce excessive lactic acid and go into anerobic at a very low heart rate e.g. i have seen semi-pro 400m runners go anerobic at just 140bpm (beats per minute) so using heart rate zones unless you have been tested is not always accurate. This same guy was very over trained and was going into sessions tired before he even STARTED!!! This was because he was never doing any sessions to clear the lactic acid from the previous tough sessions.

My advice is eat right, stretch religiously to maintain flexibility (if you can't touch your toes without bending the knees its absolutely a disgrace), do long and easy cardio sessions mixed with some higher intensity ones and of course lift weights progressively improving and changing the program.

logic1 · 03-02-2005 2:01pm

Transform wrote:

i have seen semi-pro 400m runners go anerobic at just 140bpm (beats per minute) so using heart rate zones unless you have been tested is not always accurate.

I hear the Origin Fit tests they've set up around the UK are very effective for measurement of the aforementioned.

http://www.theoriginhealthandfitness.com/burnfat.htm

Transform wrote:

This was because he was never doing any sessions to clear the lactic acid from the previous tough sessions.

Not so sure about this bit. Most if not all lactic acid clears the muscles within one hour after exercise so unless he was going from one tough session directly into another...

.logic.

jman0 · 03-02-2005 2:58pm

"if you can't touch your toes without bending the knees its absolutely a disgrace"

Omg you have got to be kidding me. There has never been a time in my life that i've managed to do that. I've always been terribly inflexible particularly around the knee area my whole life. I've given up stretching because i don't see improvement, feel any results, don't appear to suffer any from not doing it, and it's embarrassing even trying when you're as inflexible as i am.

SprostonGreen · 03-02-2005 5:31pm

jman0 wrote:

"if you can't touch your toes without bending the knees its absolutely a disgrace"

Omg you have got to be kidding me. There has never been a time in my life that i've managed to do that.

Me neither, I've got tight hamstrings. I'm fairly fit and have been for a few years now.

It's absolutely no "disgrace" to not be able to touch your toes, unless of course you're attending a school in the Victorian times, where this is a seen as a benchmark for fitness.

Jim10000 · 03-02-2005 5:36pm

I was feeling guilty as hell about my belly and inability to touch my toes reading these posts until I saw the picture of the couple on the 'Polar Weight Management Web Service' website.

I'm in better shape than them!

Khannie · 03-02-2005 5:59pm

logic1 wrote:

Depends if you're holding alot of muscle mass aswell which you don't want to eat into. Jogging is very catabolic and muscle isone of the first tissues to be eaten into when you're in need of quick calories.

If you're not worried about loosing muscle along with fat jog away.

Jaysus...that's a little disconcerting (even the image of my body having a little snack on its own muscle). I'm not very muscular, though I am toned. I don't want to lose what I've got though. I mean, I wouldn't want to end up looking like an average long distance runner.

I'm currently 5'8" and 10.5 stone. Anything under 9 stone and I start to look (IMO) unhealthy. Haven't been that light since my early 20's.

Mostly I want to lose what's left of my pot like lots of the others around here it seems. I've been jogging to do that (and biking a bit). From what I can gather from what's been said, I'm safe enough to continue as I am.

Must admit, I'd never heard the word "catabolic" before.

Magic Monkey · 04-02-2005 2:25am

Resistance training coupled with jogging should minimise a loss in muscle mass when the aim is losing bodyfat (but not gaining mass), compared to jogging alone.

Khannie · 04-02-2005 1:45pm

Sound. Thanks.

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