League Rules

Aryzel

Archery Intervarsity League Rules

For scoring and running of competitions normal FITA rules apply, except where superseded by the below.


Eligible Competitors
(1) All students enrolled in a full time course in a college are eligible to shoot for that college.
(2) Years Grace – Those who were enrolled in a full time course on the 1st January of a year can shoot in the season that starts in that calendar year.
(3) A person can defer their Years Grace, by one year. And compete in the following season instead.


Archer Categories
(1) There will be three main categories at competitions. Advanced, Beginner and Bare bow. (If deemed appropriate extra categories for Compound, Guest, …, can be added at the desecration of the competition hosts.)
(2) Advanced and Compound archers will shoot a FITA 18 round. 60 arrows on a 40cm target at 18m
(3) Beginner and Bare bow archers will shoot a Portsmouth round. 60 arrows on a 60cm target at 20yards (18m will be used in practice)


Definition of Categories
(1) Bare bow. Is open to all archers. Archers must use their bow without a sight; the FITA rule on bare bow size will not apply.
(2) Beginner. Any archer who has not scored 400 points or over on the Portsmouth, or 300 points or over on the FITA 18 round in competition (Intervarsity, Schools or IAAA) can shoot as a beginner, if they choose.
(3) Advanced. Is open to all archers.
(4) A record will be kept of advanced archers, who can no longer shoot as beginners. However it is the responsibility of each club to make sure that their archers are in a valid category. A mistake in the list of advanced archers is not a valid excuse if an archer is found to have shot in an invalid category.


Breaking of Rules
(1) If a score should not have been counted, then it should be discounted.
(2) If during a competition an archer is found to be shooting in an invalid category, then every effort should be made to let the person shoot in the correct category of the remainder of the competition. The decision lies solely with the competition host, who should do whatever they deem appropriate for the competition as a whole.
(3) If after a competition an archer is found to have shot in an invalid category or were ineligible to compete. Then the score should not have been counted and should be discounted and the correct results calculated.
(4) Invalid scores must be discovered before two weeks after the final intervarsity of the season. The change in results can take longer, but the invalid scores must be announced to all colleges within the two weeks following the final intervarsity. After the two weeks no other invalid scores will be considered.
(5) While ever effort should be made to confirm that all colleges are fully aware of the League rules, it is the responsibility of each college to know the rules. Ignorance of the rules is not a valid excuse if the rules are broken.


Intervarsity Team and Individual Scores & Prizes
(1) At each competition, the team score for each college will be the sum of the top five individual recurve scores of members of that college team.
(2) Individual scores will be ranked by Category-Score-Hits-10s-9s…1s
(3) Team prizes will be giving to the five archers that make up the team score of the teams that come 1st, 2nd and 3rd.
(4) Individual prizes will be given to 1st, 2nd and 3rd in each category.
(5) If there are very few people in a category then a prize for 1st in that category is sufficient.


League Team and Individual Tables & Prizes
(1) The League score for each team will be the sum of the team scores at each competition.
(2) For the League, there will be two individual categories, Male and Female.
(3) In each category, people’s final score is the sum of their scores from each competition. Minus their worst score. Missing a competition automatically gives a score of zero for that competition.
(4) Prizes will be given to the 1st, 2nd and 3rd place Team, Male and Female for the season.
(5) Team prizes should be for the top 5 individual scores in the Male and Female League Tables.

League Awards
(1) Awards will be given to all archers that achieve the following scores:
(2) 400+ in the Beginner/Bare bow Category OR 300+ in the Advanced Category.
(3) 400+ in the Advanced Category.
(4) 450+ in the Advanced Category.
(5) 500+ in the Advanced Category.
(6) A plaque should be presented to archers that shoot 550+ in the Advanced Category.
(7) Beginner/Bare bow awards will be presented on the day of the competition they were achieved at. Other awards can be claimed at the following intervarsity. For the final intervarsity of the season all awards can be claimed.

Aryzel

Suggestions, objections, anything in particular i left out?

As you might have noticed, i sugget in the rules that end of year prizes go to 1st, 2nd and 3rd place individuals and team, instead of just the 1st place we did for the last few seasons.

We give prizes for 2nd and 3rd at each competition, and achieveing that for the entire league is worthy of some sorta prize. It doesn't have to be the cool trophies that 1st place get, but something should be given to 2nd and 3rd to show for their achievement.

For the individual ranking at compeitions,
Category-Score-Hits-10s-9s-....1s
Any other suggestions? Should we drop Hits? Is a score 450 with 60hits better than 450 with 59hits? And should there be a cut off, only go to 9s, after that its a draw?

toxof

FITA rules have droped the HITS.
And it only goes down to 9s. After that there has to be a one arrow shoot off.
For our situation this is not always ideal as some archers could be waiting an hour to shoot that one arrow. If its even after that FITA rules say that its a flip of a coin.

Renegade_Archer

Does this mean I get a plaque??

I guess not, seeing as I last shot it in the ULIV in 2003, guess I will have to shoot it again then

trig

Firstly, thats some great work Aryzel, fair play to ya. A daunting task if ever there was one, putting a set of rules on our little piece of chaos.
These might be a little nit-picky, but thats only cos you did a pretty tight job:

Aryzel wrote:

(4) Individual prizes will be given to 1st, 2nd and 3rd in each category.

Perhaps we should just specify a minimum number of prizes and leave the rest up to the organisers. Something like:
(4) Individual prizes will be given to first in each category and further prizes may be given out at the descression of the Intervarsity organiser

Aryzel wrote:

(5) Team prizes should be for the top 5 individual scores in the Male and Female League Tables.

I'm just thinking that you could have a situation where someone's score is never part of the team score, but due to attendance or whatever that person finishes higher then others whose score did count towards team scores. Would it then be right for that person to get a team prize? Would it not be fairer if it was given on the basis of total points that had gone to the team score over the year? ......A bit of a pedantic point perhaps

Aryzel

I'll change the prizes to read 'recommended prizes are....'
That gives enough space to change things as deemed appropriate.

On the team individuals prizes, the possiblity that you suggest is extremely unlikely. But anyways, over the year the individuals who have contributed most to the full team, not just the best five at each competition, will be rewarded. Just because you don't make the top five doesn't mean your not equally important.

The flip side off your arguement is someone who comes 6th for the team at every competition losing out to someone who only came to one competition and came 5th for the team. The five best overall individuals over the course of the year seems a more reasonable choice to me.

Ewan, all other awards are back dated, can't see why your 550 shouldn't be.

trig

I don't know Ewan, UCD might have something to say about your award being backdated!
After all, you weren't ment to know the rules at the time, were you?

Sorry, couldn't resist.

You're right, it is a very remote possibility Aryzel. I don't know though, you said that just because you don't make the top five doesn't mean your not equally important, but if that were the case, the team score would be the sum of everybody's score. The fact of the matter is that if you your score isn't in the top five, it doesn't really count, at least as far as the team is concerned.
And what if you came and scored points at four of six intervarsities, but missed only two when a person with mediocre scores pips you having done reasonably well, but just cos they made an extra IV or two they get the prize.
It's probably academic anyhow

Aryzel

There are a few basic options, all allow cases where someone who might be deserving a medal doesn't get one, but you can't give medals to everyone. We get everyone to decided which they perfer at Carlow.

(1) Top five individual scores from the Male and Female league tables.
i.e the Best five archers of the team over the year.

(2) Top five individual scores from those that were in the top five for the team at some stage during the year. i.e Once your in the top five at least once your all your scores are counted.

(3) Top five individual scores, only considering the scores that were counted for the team at each competition. i.e Any score you got that ranked 6th or worse for you team at an compeitition isn't counted.

(4) Top five personal bests over the year.

The first one is clear and straight forward, but if you miss two competitions you will probably lose out to someone who was at them all.

The second actually has the exact same problem, but cuts out those that didn't make the team at some stage.

The third one, pick those the contributed the most to team scores over the course of the year.

The forth one is a bit different, also it allows a good beginner to get a medal over a decent advanced archer.

trig

That seems to be all the bases covered.

Again, I know it seems academic, but as we all found out, these things are better spelled out in advance as opposed to waiting for them to blow up in our faces.

Reble_archer

i no i have no business getting involved in team score discussions as it wont affect me but what would your thoughts be on an averaged score from each team at an event of their total score,but only if the team had five or more archers present at the event(so i still cant get one).

so that the whole colleges scores were used instead of just the top five? and end of year medals were given out to the five best of the top college, on their average score for the year,but they wld have to be a certain number of IVs to be eligible????

im sitting here bored waiting for some1 to drink with so i just thought id be a pain in the ass.

Aryzel

an averaged team score wouldn't work well, simply because teams would drop their worst archers from the competition because they would bring down their average. And if you set a minimum size requirement then it would be in the interest of each college to only bring the minimum number.

Also puts undue pressure on complete beginners to do well, with the best five rule, you go, have fun and if your in the top five good, if not there is no real pressure. Allows compete begineer to get a feel of competition and hopefully hooked on the sport. Team averages would change that, you would practice in your club, but only the elite top five would go to intervasities.

Panserborn

Howye

Long time listener, first time caller - hope I'm doing this right

Just a question on Barebow. We (thats the royal "we") were told some time ago that barebows couldn't use longrods or pretty much anything other than limbs, risers and a string - is this still true? From the new rules it seems that anything goes except for a sight.

On another point, I've been shooting (badly :mad: ) within the university circut for some years and I really think its great that a formal central organisation has been set up to run it. I don't envy yer jobs but kudos to all of ye for the work ye've put in - well done.

Aryzel

The reason i allowed stabilizers ect in the rules for barebow, was cause i've seen some barebow shooters with them on.

If clubs take it on themselves to make sure that barebow shooters don't have the stabilizers, then we could use the full rules.

These are only suggested rules, i'll talk to the barebow people at carlow and see what they prefer.

baggins

Panserborn wrote:

kudos to all of ye for the work ye've put in - well done.

Delete "ye all" insert "Dermot" in place.

I really dont think anyone else deserves nearly as much credit for the running of the intervarsity scene.

Aryzel

The compound question came up at Carlow, Vachn from GMIT is getting a compound and might be shooting in at UCD IV, after talking about it, several clubs aggreed that resonable solution is that, compounds will shoot on vegas faces, (the ones with 3 sub-targets that only count 6 or better). And only one compound score can be in the team score.

Also maynooth now has a longbow archer, and noone seemed to have any problems with him shooting in the barebow category, as long as he uses normal arrows, not field archery ones.

I forgot to mention it to the club reps at the end so i'll contact them all and make sure they are ok with this for the UCD competition.

Maynooth, DIT, GMIT are the clubs i know for certain are ok with this and i'll call the others. Also the 'mistakes' issues was told to everyone and will be discussed and decided on at the UCD competition.

Aryzel

Updated rules - 7th Feb 2005 - Updates in red
Futhere updates, in green.


Archery Intervarsity League Rules

For scoring and running of competitions normal FITA rules apply, except where superseded by the below.


Eligible Competitors
(1) All students enrolled in a full time course in a college are eligible to shoot for that college.
(2) Years Grace – Those who were enrolled in a full time course on the 1st January of a year can shoot in the season that starts in that calendar year.
(3) A person can defer their Years Grace, by one year. And compete in the following season instead.


Archer Categories
(1) There will be three main categories at competitions. Advanced, Beginner and Bare bow. (If deemed appropriate extra categories for Compound, Longbow, Guest, …, can be added at the desecration of the competition hosts.)
(2) Advanced archers will shoot a FITA 18 round. 60 arrows on a 40cm target at 18m
(3) Beginner and Bare bow archers will shoot a Portsmouth round. 60 arrows on a 60cm target at 20yards (18m will be used in practice)
(4) Compound archers will shoot a FITA 18 round. 60 arrows on a Vegas target (which is three 40cm target faces only using 6 or better). Also compounds will use the inner 10 ring only, the reminder of the gold scores as a 9.
(5) Longbow archers will shoot a Portsmouth round. And can be included in the bare bow category at the desecration of the hosts.



Definition of Categories for Recurve Archers
(1) Bare bow. Is open to all archers. Archers must use their bow without a sight. Barebow archers are recommended to not use a stabilizer.
(2) Beginner. Any archer who has not scored 400 points or over on the Portsmouth, or 300 points or over on the FITA 18 round in competition (Intervarsity, Schools or IAAA) can shoot as a beginner, if they choose.
(3) Advanced. Is open to all archers.
(4) A record will be kept of advanced archers, who can no longer shoot as beginners. However it is the responsibility of each club to make sure that their archers are in a valid category. A mistake in the list of advanced archers is not a valid excuse if an archer is found to have shot in an invalid category.


Breaking of Rules
(1) If a score should not have been counted, then it should be discounted.
(2) If during a competition an archer is found to be shooting in an invalid category, then every effort should be made to let the person shoot in the correct category of the remainder of the competition. The decision lies solely with the competition host, who should do whatever they deem appropriate for the competition as a whole.
(3) If after a competition an archer is found to have shot in an invalid category or were ineligible to compete. Then the score should not have been counted and should be discounted and the correct results calculated.
(4) Invalid scores must be discovered before two weeks after the final intervarsity of the season. The change in results can take longer, but the invalid scores must be announced to all colleges within the two weeks following the final intervarsity. After the two weeks no other invalid scores will be considered.
(5) While ever effort should be made to confirm that all colleges are fully aware of the League rules, it is the responsibility of each college to know the rules. Ignorance of the rules is not a valid excuse if the rules are broken.


Intervarsity Team and Individual Scores & Prizes
(1) At each competition, the team score for each college will be the sum of the top five individual scores of members of that college team. At least four of the five scores must be from recurve archers. At most one score can be from a compound or longbow archer.
(2) Individual scores will be ranked by Category - Score -10s - 9s…1s. Hits are not considered. If the individuals are still equal then they are considered joint winners and extra prizes should be presented if necessary.
(3) If two teams have equal scores then the teams are ranked according the individual scores that form the team score. If all the individual scores are equal then the teams are joint winners and extra prizes should be presented if necessary.
(4) Team prizes will be giving to the five archers that make up the team score of the teams that come 1st, 2nd and 3rd.
(5) Its recommended that the individual prizes will be given to 1st, 2nd and 3rd in each category.
(6) If there are very few people in a category then a prize for 1st in that category is sufficient.



League Team and Individual Tables & Prizes
(1) The League score for each team will be the sum of the team scores at each competition.
(2) For the League, there will be two individual categories, Male and Female.
(3) In each category, people’s final score is the sum of their scores from each competition. Minus their worst score. Missing a competition automatically gives a score of zero for that competition.
(4) If the final score of two teams or individuals are equal, then they are ranked according to their scores from the separate intervarsities that were used to calculate their final score. If all the separate scores are equal then the two teams are joint winners and should receive a prize each, if required.
(5) Prizes will be given to the 1st, 2nd and 3rd place Team, Male and Female for the season.
(6) Team prizes should be for the top 5 individual scores in the Male and Female League Tables.


League Awards
(1) Awards will be given to all archers that achieve the following scores:
(2) 400+ in the Beginner/Bare bow Category OR 300+ in the Advanced Category.
(3) 400+ in the Advanced Category.
(4) 450+ in the Advanced Category.
(5) 500+ in the Advanced Category.
(6) A plaque should be presented to archers that shoot 550+ in the Advanced Category.
(7) Beginner/Bare bow awards will be presented on the day of the competition they were achieved at. Other awards can be claimed at the following intervarsity. For the final intervarsity of the season, all awards can be claimed.

Aryzel

Question. Should compounds be always considered a separate category, or can they included in the advanced category at the descretion of the hosts?

trig

The only thing I would consider is limiting the number of compound scores that can contribute to the overall team score to one or two of the five. I was talking to Sinéad about it though, and the vegas face with the inner 10 (5 or less = no score) might just level the playing field enough. In all honesty, the compound only really comes in to its own outdoors at the long distances, ie >50m.

A very good compound archer is still likely to beat a very good recurve archer but I don't think its really an issue yet. I think we should see how Vachn (I think its her anyway) gets on if she chooses to go down that road.

A good compound bow is quite expensive, no clubs have any for beginners (that I know of), there are no IV coaches for compound shooters (although Galway archers are bound to have 1 or 2) and at the moment even good recurves are few and far between so if a person takes up compound they're fairly handicapped from the start.

Aryzel

ahh trig read the updates

trig

Oh yeah. Sorry, my week doesn't begin until tuesday...if it ever gets going at all. Still, the rest of it makes sense (at least in my head)

Aryzel

Added in a few more updates to cover what to do with people and teams with equal scores, updates to the updates in green

MicS

Aryzel, just my question as non-native English speaker: what you mean - "discretion", "desecration", "descretion" or something else?

About compound archers at UCD intervarsity. I don't think we ordered triple faces on a square target face, and I have only vertical triple faces. So if our commitee decides it is ok for compound shooters, we will need them to bring their own target faces, 'cause the notice is quite short.

Aryzel

Sorry ment 'discretion' its the choice of the host.

If there are no triple face targets avaliable at a compeition, then the compound archer can shoot a normal face and but only arrows that score 6 or better are counted

Oh and ther vertical tripple face should be fine.

Aryzel

And having compounds is a league decision by all clubs, not the decision of any individual club. I'll call all the clubs that i haven't asked yet tomorrow.

trig

I have 20 vegas faces at home. I'm sure I can spare 2 or swap 2 for 40cm faces or something. The vertical ones are a pain in the b****x. I know the IAAA compound shooters hate them too.

Just remind me before the shoot cos I've the memory of a goldfish

trig

I think we have to accept compounds in some shape or form. It really would be grossly unfair to exclude them just cos it makes life difficult for us. Its how we treat them thats the real matter for discussion.

Aryzel

Gold fish actually have fine memories, the 5sec thing was just a lie used to justify selling fish in tiny bowls, would you lock a cat or dog in a cage 24hrs a day until it dies?

Also fish feel pain like animals and birds, the suggestion that they don't feel pain was another lie so that people could continue to kill them as a hobby. How you would like to be pulled 100 feet in the air by a metal barb stuck in your mouth? Suffocate to death, have your head chopped off, your stomach ripped open and your insides torn out? Not necessarly in that order....

trig

Easy tiger! Well, at least we know what you were in your previous life Dermot.
Any joy with the big five double zero on Sunday btw? I heard you had a rough one on saturday night

MicS

Aryzel wrote:

And having compounds is a league decision by all clubs, not the decision of any individual club. I'll call all the clubs that i haven't asked yet tomorrow.

Sure. I just meant that I would notify our commitee that there MAY be compound shooters, so that there would be no problems or misunderstandings later at the day of competition.

Aryzel

i figured thats what you ment mikhail, i just wanted to be clear about things atm.

I think i'm still recovering from the weekend Only 899 on sunday. Boss was talking to me about bow hunting today, i wasn't very impressed, so was a little fired up when you made the fish post :P

trig

Well at least you actually shot (ahem Toxof). Máire actually shot pretty well I hear (but then she's used to it!).

Didn't know you felt so strongly bout the whole hunting issue. Did you point out the fact that its illegal? Spose there's always the 3D shoots

Aryzel

I usually keep my views to myself, i've found people tend not to like having their perceptions challenged. Ignorance is bliss as they say.

Sinead shot very well too, 540's no problem. Anyone notice that the best Advanced and Barebow archers are both girls?

If i can reduce some of my inconsistancy a bit i should be able to shatter 500 no problem. I think the problem is i've been focusing too much on the scores and stopped trying to improve my form. Summer should be fun though

trig

Yeah, but Máire was on the good stuff the same as yourselves in Carlow. Don't think Brendan did so bad either.
And yes ignorance is bliss, I think I'm living proof of that!

I hear what you say about summer, I can't wait. Exams finished, outdoor shooting and plenty of alcohol.
Could it be mental as well? I mean there's a whole load of mental theory about comfort zones that keep people at the level they've already been shooting at. The other thing is the focus on the score at the end of the day (ie 500 or 400 or whatever it may be) rather then shooting one arrow at a time and letting the chips fall where they may. Too much conscious thought can damage your shooting, I know its disasterous for me. Sinéad won't shoot if she starts to think about the shot! As for me, my problems are entirely physical at present.

Panserborn

Could somebody clarify a situation for me.

A friend of mine is an archer in Cork but she done her masters here in NUIG last year and graduated in October 2004. Is she still covered by the "years grace" rule since its not the same calander year but its less than 12 months since she stopped being a student?

The reason I ask is that she is shooting in the Nationals at GMIT but would like to throw in her tupence with us on the Saturday for pratice and it would be nice to log her score with our team if the rules allow.

Also, whats the deal with the badges (400/450/500 etc.) and the barebow catagory? Niamh shoots up to 500 on barebow at the moment (imagaine the embarassment training beside her! ) but I don't think she has got a badge yet.

Aryzel

I'm going to update the rules this weekend from the suggestions i got at UCD.
Will have them up saturday or sunday.

Anyways, when did the girl finish her masters, (i don't mean graduate, some people have their graduation 18months+ after they are finished) when did she hand in her thesis? If it was some time in 2004 then she can shoot this season for ye, so she can shoot at GMIT and UL if she likes.

I'll be updating the Awards stuff this weekend too, i'm going to sort it out for barebow archers then, i never really expected anyone to ever shoot so well barebow

Oh and i should have the badges for 500+ for Galway

Panserborn

She handed up in July 2004 so everything should be hunky dorey. Cool.

The scariest thing about Niamh and the barebow is she only started a year ago! :eek:

lilRedSmurf

Ooh Shiny Badges...

Well as far as the vegas faces go we have plenty in Galway so I'm happy to bring my own and yes I've tried the vertical ones and the results were unmentionable so I'm more then happy to oblige.

And it is definitly tough starting up on compound but its something I've wanted to do since I started shooting so I dont mind. And I think its something we need to get more female shooters into cos if we were to get a few good female compounds all trained up we'd have a chance at a full compliment national team.
(and a chance at beating the english lot, who were the only team at the EuroNations to have a full team....)
And the guys I've talked to and Sinead and Maire in particular have been such a great help.

So basically thanks for accomadating me so comfily into the IV's

trig

I don't think there's any doubt Niamh deserves those badges (well the 400 and 450 at least). Thats some incredible barebow shooting. I'd love to see what she'd shoot if she spent a year at recurve.

Panserborn

trig wrote:

I'd love to see what she'd shoot if she spent a year at recurve.

Too right. I tried to get her to turn to the light side but she is set in her ways of the dark side of barebow!

trig

Well, its your loss. Quite literally.

Aryzel

Last Modified : Thursday 3rd March 2005

Archery Intervarsity League Rules

For scoring and running of competitions normal FITA rules apply, except where superseded by the below.


Eligible Competitors
(1) All students enrolled/attending a full time course in a college at the date of an intervarsity are eligible to shoot for that college at that intervarsity and for the remainder of the season.
(2) Years Grace – If an archer is not enrolled/attending a full time course, they can still compete during the season, if in the previous season they were able to compete. Provided the previous season was not a Years Grace.
(3) A person can defer their Years Grace, by one season and compete in the following season instead.
(4) An archer should always compete for their current college. Or if they are on Years Grace then the college they competed for last.


Archer Categories
(1) There will be three main categories at competitions. Advanced, Beginner and Bare bow. (If deemed appropriate extra categories for Compound, Longbow, Guest, …, can be added at the discretion of the competition hosts.)
(2) Advanced archers will shoot a FITA 18 round. 60 arrows on a 40cm target at 18m
(3) Beginner and Bare bow archers will shoot a Portsmouth round. 60 arrows on a 60cm target at 20yards (18m will be used in practice)
(4) Compound archers will shoot a FITA 18 round. 60 arrows on a Vegas target (which is three 40cm target faces only using 6 or better). Also compounds will use the inner 10 ring only, the reminder of the gold scores as a 9.
(5) Longbow archers will shoot a Portsmouth round. And can be included in the bare bow category at the discretion of the hosts.
(6) An archer can only shoot one competition round in one category during an intervarsity. At the hosts discretion an archer can shoot practice ends after they have finished their competition round.

Definition of Categories for Recurve Archers
(1) Bare bow. Is open to all archers. Archers must use their bow without a sight. Bare bows should have no sight, or marks or blemishes that may be used as sight marks. The unstrung bow should be able to pass though a ring12.2cm in diameter
(2) (2) Beginner. Any archer who has not scored the following at an Intervarsity or Schools competition can shoot as a beginner, if they choose.
400+ points in the Beginner category.
350+ points in the Bare Bow/Long Bow categories.
300+ points in the Advanced/Compound category.
400+ points on a 60cm target in a Schools Competition

(3) Advanced. Is open to all archers.
(4) A record will be kept of advanced archers, who can no longer shoot as beginners. However it is the responsibility of each club to make sure that their archers are in a valid category. A mistake in the list of advanced archers is not a valid excuse if an archer is found to have shot in an invalid category.


Breaking of Rules
(1) If a score should not have been counted, then it should be discounted.
(2) If during a competition an archer is found to be shooting in an invalid category, then every effort should be made to let the person shoot in the correct category of the remainder of the competition. The decision lies solely with the competition host, who should do whatever they deem appropriate for the competition as a whole.
(3) If after a competition an archer is found to have shot in an invalid category or were ineligible to compete. Then the score should not have been counted and should be discounted and the correct results calculated.
(4) Invalid scores must be discovered before four weeks after the final intervarsity of the season. The change in results can take longer, but the invalid scores must be announced to a committee representative from each college within the four weeks following the final intervarsity. After the four weeks no other invalid scores will be considered.
(5) While ever effort should be made to confirm that all colleges are fully aware of the League rules, it is the responsibility of each college to know the rules. Ignorance of the rules is not a valid excuse if the rules are broken.


Intervarsity Team and Individual Scores & Prizes
(1) At each competition, the team score for each college will be the sum of the top five individual scores of members of that college team. At least four of the five scores must be from recurve archers. At most one score can be from a compound or longbow archer.
(2) Individual scores will be ranked by Category - Score -10s - 9s…1s. Hits are not considered. If the individuals are still equal then they are considered joint winners and extra prizes should be presented if necessary.
(3) If two teams have equal scores then the teams are ranked according the individual scores that form the team score. If all the individual scores are equal then the teams are joint winners and extra prizes should be presented if necessary.
(4) Team prizes will be giving to the five archers that make up the team score of the teams that come 1st, 2nd and 3rd.
(5) Its recommended that the individual prizes will be given to 1st, 2nd and 3rd in each category.
(6) If there are very few people in a category then a prize for 1st in that category is sufficient.
(7) Additional prizes can be presented for guests but the above prizes are for intervarsity archers only.


League Team and Individual Tables & Prizes
(1) The League score for each team will be the sum of the team scores at each competition.
(2) For the League, there will be two individual categories, Male and Female.
(3) In each category, people’s final score is the sum of their scores from each competition. Minus their worst score. Missing a competition automatically gives a score of zero for that competition.
(4) If the final score of two teams or individuals are equal, then they are ranked according to their scores from the separate intervarsities that were used to calculate their final score. If all the separate scores are equal then the two teams are joint winners and should receive a prize each, if required.
(5) Prizes will be given to the 1st, 2nd and 3rd place Team, Male and Female for the season.
(6) For the winning teams, prizes should be given to the 5 individuals who contributed the most points to their teams League Table score during the season.

League Awards
(1) Awards will be given to all archers that achieve the following scores:
(2) 400+ in the Beginner Category. Or 300+ in the Advanced/Compound Category. Or 350+ in the Bare Bow/ Long Bow Categories.
(3) 400+ in the Advanced / Compound / Bare Bow / Long Bow Categories.
(4) 450+ in the Advanced / Compound / Bare Bow / Long Bow Categories.
(5) 500+ in the Advanced / Compound / Bare Bow / Long Bow Categories.
(6) 550+ in the Advanced / Compound / Bare Bow / Long Bow Categories.
(7) Beginner awards will be presented on the day of the competition they were achieved at. Other awards can be claimed at the following intervarsity. For the final intervarsity of the season, all awards can be claimed.

Exceptions
While the above rules are ment to cover most eventualities in the League, exceptions will occur. The governing committee can and should make modifications and exceptions to the rules when it is appropriate.

Remember the League exists to allow people to compete and enjoy archery. The league rules should reflect this in a way that is fair to all the clubs and archers in the league

Aryzel

update of league rules based on the suggestions from UCD IV, if i've forgotten anything or made mistakes let me know, and i''l get more suggestions from ye at gmit.

Aryzel

made an additional update, its in green

Aryzel

giving this a quick bump, for people new to the league, its good to read, must check my computer at home and see if this was the final version i did

toxof

Last Modified : Monday 6th February 2006
A few changes regarding the final leauge results.

I am proposing for next year bare bow will follow the same rules regarding target size/scores as recurve. If a barbow archer gets 400 then they will progress to a 40cm target. Before any one argues just think that only 5 people in the history of the competitions have broken the 400 mark.
Also Niamh wants to compete at the National championships this year, this will be on a 40cm face. And if she wants to compete in other IAAA comps, she will have to shoot at the 40cm target.

Archery Intervarsity League Rules

For scoring and running of competitions normal FITA rules apply, except where superseded by the below.


Eligible Competitors
(1) All students enrolled/attending a full time course in a college at the date of an intervarsity are eligible to shoot for that college at that intervarsity and for the remainder of the season.
(2) Years Grace – If an archer is not enrolled/attending a full time course, they can still compete during the season, if in the previous season they were able to compete. Provided the previous season was not a Years Grace.
(3) A person can defer their Years Grace, by one season and compete in the following season instead.
(4) An archer should always compete for their current college. Or if they are on Years Grace then the college they competed for last.


Archer Categories
(1) There will be three main categories at competitions. Advanced, Beginner and Bare bow. (If deemed appropriate extra categories for Compound, Longbow, Guest, …, can be added at the discretion of the competition hosts.)
(2) Advanced archers will shoot a FITA 18 round. 60 arrows on a 40cm target at 18m
(3) Beginner and Bare bow archers will shoot a Portsmouth round. 60 arrows on a 60cm target at 20yards (18m will be used in practice)
(4) Compound archers will shoot a FITA 18 round. 60 arrows on a Vegas target (which is three 40cm target faces only using 6 or better). Also compounds will use the inner 10 ring only, the reminder of the gold scores as a 9.
(5) Longbow archers will shoot a Portsmouth round. And can be included in the bare bow category at the discretion of the hosts.
(6) An archer can only shoot one competition round in one category during an intervarsity. At the hosts discretion an archer can shoot practice ends after they have finished their competition round.

Definition of Categories for Recurve Archers
(1) Bare bow. Is open to all archers. Archers must use their bow without a sight. Bare bows should have no sight, or marks or blemishes that may be used as sight marks. The unstrung bow should be able to pass though a ring12.2cm in diameter
(2) (2) Beginner. Any archer who has not scored the following at an Intervarsity or Schools competition can shoot as a beginner, if they choose.
400+ points in the Beginner category.
350+ points in the Bare Bow/Long Bow categories.
300+ points in the Advanced/Compound category.
400+ points on a 60cm target in a Schools Competition

(3) Advanced. Is open to all archers.
(4) A record will be kept of advanced archers, who can no longer shoot as beginners. However it is the responsibility of each club to make sure that their archers are in a valid category. A mistake in the list of advanced archers is not a valid excuse if an archer is found to have shot in an invalid category.


Breaking of Rules
(1) If a score should not have been counted, then it should be discounted.
(2) If during a competition an archer is found to be shooting in an invalid category, then every effort should be made to let the person shoot in the correct category of the remainder of the competition. The decision lies solely with the competition host, who should do whatever they deem appropriate for the competition as a whole.
(3) If after a competition an archer is found to have shot in an invalid category or were ineligible to compete. Then the score should not have been counted and should be discounted and the correct results calculated.
(4) Invalid scores must be discovered before four weeks after the final intervarsity of the season. The change in results can take longer, but the invalid scores must be announced to a committee representative from each college within the four weeks following the final intervarsity. After the four weeks no other invalid scores will be considered.
(5) While ever effort should be made to confirm that all colleges are fully aware of the League rules, it is the responsibility of each college to know the rules. Ignorance of the rules is not a valid excuse if the rules are broken.


Intervarsity Team and Individual Scores & Prizes
(1) At each competition, the team score for each college will be the sum of the top five individual scores of members of that college team. At least four of the five scores must be from recurve archers. At most one score can be from a compound or longbow archer.
(2) Individual scores will be ranked by Category - Score -10s - 9s…1s. Hits are not considered. If the individuals are still equal then they are considered joint winners and extra prizes should be presented if necessary.
(3) If two teams have equal scores then the teams are ranked according the individual scores that form the team score. If all the individual scores are equal then the teams are joint winners and extra prizes should be presented if necessary.
(4) Team prizes will be giving to the five archers that make up the team score of the teams that come 1st, 2nd and 3rd.
(5) Its recommended that the individual prizes will be given to 1st, 2nd and 3rd in each category.
(6) If there are very few people in a category then a prize for 1st in that category is sufficient.
(7) Additional prizes can be presented for guests but the above prizes are for intervarsity archers only.


League Team and Individual Tables & Prizes
(1) The League score for each team will be the sum of the team scores at each competition.
(2) For the League, there will be two individual categories, Male and Female.
(3) In each category, people’s final score is the sum of their scores from each competition. Minus their worst score. Missing a competition automatically gives a score of zero for that competition.
(4) If the final score of two teams or individuals are equal, then they are ranked according to their scores from the separate intervarsities that were used to calculate their final score. If all the separate scores are equal then the two teams are joint winners and should receive a prize each, if required.
(5) Prizes will be given to the 1st, 2nd and 3rd place Team, Male, Female, Barebow & Compound for the season. An individual can not claim a prize for 2 categories, If and archer competed in more than one category then they will be counted in best male or female category.
(6) For the winning teams, prizes should be given to the 5 individuals who contributed the most points to their teams League Table score during the season.

League Awards
(1) Awards will be given to all archers that achieve the following scores:
(2) 400+ in the Beginner Category. Or 300+ in the Advanced/Compound Category. Or 350+ in the Bare Bow/ Long Bow Categories.
(3) 400+ in the Advanced / Compound / Bare Bow / Long Bow Categories.
(4) 450+ in the Advanced / Compound / Bare Bow / Long Bow Categories.
(5) 500+ in the Advanced / Compound / Bare Bow / Long Bow Categories.
(6) 550+ in the Advanced / Compound / Bare Bow / Long Bow Categories.
(7) Beginner awards will be presented on the day of the competition they were achieved at. Other awards can be claimed at the following intervarsity. For the final intervarsity of the season, all awards can be claimed.

Exceptions
While the above rules are ment to cover most eventualities in the League, exceptions will occur. The governing committee can and should make modifications and exceptions to the rules when it is appropriate.

Remember the League exists to allow people to compete and enjoy archery. The league rules should reflect this in a way that is fair to all the clubs and archers in the league

Aryzel

I would suggest that barebow have the option of choosing either 40cm or 60cm for the competitions.

Even with Niamh, there is no need to force her to use 40cm targets. If she wants to shoot on 40cm targets, that is fine, but she should not be forced to because she has broken 400 (or even 500).

If a barebow archer is shooting a high score on the 60cm targets, 400+ or even 500+, then they should be allowed to continue to do so to help their team as much as possible. Her high scores, in the 520's now, should not cause her to be forced onto a smaller target, any more than Noel shooting 540's should cause us to roll out the 20cm xbow targets. The choice to shoot on 40's or 60's should be available to all her.

Aryzel

Also if ye do choose to have a cut off for moving a barebow from 60's to 40's then the cut off should be 500 not 400.

Panserborn

toxof wrote:

I am proposing for next year bare bow will follow the same rules regarding target size/scores as recurve. If a barbow archer gets 400 then they will progress to a 40cm target.

Does this also mean there will be a seperate beginner and advanced competition in the barebow section? Like we have in the "sighted bow" section?

SonicTheBadger

The way i see it, if the numbers are there then have a seperate advanced and beginner, but if not it makes go on a general concensus.

Kadeshh

i agree with toxof, there is no reason why barebow should continue to shoot different rules to anyone else. above 400 on 60cm moves you down to 40's should be compulsory.

the current system distorts scores and peoples perceptions of how they are shooting...

thesage

I agree with toxof too. I don't think I'll be shooting barebow anymore but I think anyone who shoots over 400 barebow should be allowed progress onto a 40cm target.

You're right Kadeshh, there is no point on the IV's being different from IAAA competitons.

One thing though, does this affect the 350+ barebow/longbow award? Or is it just that an award is granted at 350+ and if anyone makes 400+ they merely use the advanced targets?