Passing your driving test first time - the skinny

Swaneck

I have heard a lot moaning about how hard it is to pass your test. I passed it the first time I took the test with no problems - here a few hard won nuggets of knowledge.

1. Turn up on time and in the correct centre. Read the form once and then read the test form again. Do not turn up in the wrong place - it happens

2. Check your brake lights, tyres etc a couple of days before the test. Do not do this the morning of the test and then hope the tester will not notice.

3. Drive at 30 mph in 30 mph zones. If you go slower you will fail. Don't worry about lolly pop ladies, policemen, small children etc. 30 mph or fail.

4. Drive at 40 mph in 40 mph zones. If you go slower you will fail. Don't worry about lolly pop ladies, policemen, small children etc. 40 mph or fail.

5. Keep you hands on the wheel as much as possible at 10 to 2 position

6. Observation - look around like you are looking for your lost dog. It does not matter if you are actually seeing anything. Testers love to see observation.

7. Up to 30 mph - 33 mph stay in 3rd gear. Don't worry about changing into 4th it gives you too much to do.

8. Get lessons WITH and ISM qualified instructor. Anyone can set themselves up as a driving instructor. At least if they are ISM qualified they have to pass a test. Buy the ISM DVD if this is your first time doing the test.

9. Get a car and drive it lots. You will not pass the test based on lessons alone. You need to get on somebody's insurance and drive.

10. Quit moaning about how long it takes to get a test. Be creative and do something about. I live in Clonsilla and rather then take the test in Blanchardstown which has a 12 month waiting list. I took it in Mullingar which only took 10 weeks waiting for a test. Check the DOE website for towns/center's and there waiting list. Work it out it takes approx one hour to drive to Mullingar. It takes more then one hour to drive across Dublin.

11. Try and take the day off before the test to drive around the test center area. Practice your turnabouts, reverses etc all that day. Remember preparation and practice, preparation and practice.

12. Turn up at the center with your paperwork correctly laid out. This will not be a problem for you as you have prepared it the day before and shoved it into the glove box.

13. Get a good nights sleep. DO NOT GO OUT

14. Do not turn up too early as you will only sit around and getting nervous.

15. Get your act together and you will pass no problems - remember this - think of all the gob****es you know who have passed their test. If they can pass you can fly your test.

Alun

Swaneck wrote:

7. Up to 30 mph - 33 mph stay in 3rd gear. Don't worry about changing into 4th it gives you too much to do.

I know someone who was failed for not changing into 4th gear at 30mph in the middle of Dublin!

irlirishkev

I passed first time.

I found the key to my passing, was getting a pre-test run around the testing route. I did it once and my instructor said I was rubbish. He pointed out the faults, and then I tried again, and he said provided I drove like that during the test then I'd pass. I did, and I did.

Re changing up to 4th in a 30 mph zone, I'd say if you can do it, do. Ideally, you should be in the highest gear possible without stalling the engine. In other words, don't rev the hell out of it. The tester won't like that.

Kevin.

D!ve^Bomb!

had my test the other day.. my bro gave me lessons leading up to the test(he was an instructor with ISM) and he believed i wasn't going to fail.. Guess what, i did, all because i apparently didn't 'cancel my indicators promptly' enough:rolleyes:

bottom line is, it doesn't really matter how good you are, it all comes down to who the tester is.. my brother couldn't believe it..

Alun

irlirishkev wrote:

Re changing up to 4th in a 30 mph zone, I'd say if you can do it, do. Ideally, you should be in the highest gear possible without stalling the engine. In other words, don't rev the hell out of it. The tester won't like that.

Surely that depends a lot on the car, and the gear ratios, but on most modern cars with a 5-speed box I'd hardly describe 30mph in 3rd as "revving the hell out of it"

Petal

I had my test last Decemeber and passed first time.. only driving 3 months before that.. I definetly believe it depends on what tester you have. I wasnt nervous at all really, I just wanted to get my first driving test over and done with. I wasnt expecting to pass. I ended up driving 35mph in 30mph zones because I read they mark you for goin too slow so I decided to concentrate on everything else, like gears etc. I screwed up the reverse around the corner bit but he still passed me on it. Didnt mark me for right of way? To be honest there were a few faults I made, like crossing my hands over on the wheel etc, but he didnt fault me on it.. not even a grade 1. Still, I think its hard to pass regardless of what tester you have. My cousin failed in the same test centre last week with 18 grade 2's and a few grade 3's..

D!ve^Bomb!

even if you get one grade 3 you fail..

You were VERY lucky, are you sure he just didn't notice you going 35 in 30 zone, because that is an instant fail

no offence, but i assume your tester was a man, and that you're a woman?

bobbyjoe

I just passed this morning.
Wooohoooooo.
The fourth time trying!!!!
Wish I'd had those tips four years ago.
All I'd say is that you definetly need to be driving regularly as in every day for at least a couple of months before attempting it.

Swaneck

The point I was trying to make was that my driving improved radically when I stopped trying to make sure I was in exactly the correct gear all the time and concentrated on keeping both hands on the wheel for as much time as possible. It gives you much better control over the car, better control = better confidence=better speed=better test scores.

Without wishing to do down your friend s/he was properly failed for more then just one incorrect gear change

stratos

When I took my test I got my employer at the time, to send in the application form, with a form saying I would lose my job if the test was not passed. When I took the test I could see this letter attached to the testers clip board. I did an Awful test as 2 cars crashed in front of me on a roundabout. This completely made me lose my concentration. I looked really hung dog as we returned to the test centre. He really didn't want to pass me but he did.

BrianD3

Lots of good tips there. I would add to them

1) Every time you do *anything* while driving, look in your mirror. As well as maneouvring this includes changing gear, braking, accelerating, going from a 30 mph zone to a 40 etc.

2) As already stated get lessons with ISM, no-one else. Get at least 10 lessons even if you think you don't need them.

3) Choice of vehicle - if you're used to driving a car with power steering don't do your test in a manual steering car, you are guaranteed to **** up the turnabout and reverse if you do. Also be sure you're comfortable with the gearshift in your vehcile don't do you test in a 15 year old Alfa Romeo if you're used to driving the instructors 1 year old Nissan Micra

4) Try to make the driving lessons harder than the actual test will be. Maybe do a commentary as you're driving along (helps to improve concentration and awareness) Also make the reverse and turnabout as difficult as possible, pick narrow heavily cambered roads for the turnabout and hilly areas for the reverse. The test will be a pleasant suprise after this.

BrianD3

mackerski

Swaneck wrote:

8. Get lessons WITH and ISM qualified instructor. Anyone can set themselves up as a driving instructor. At least if they are ISM qualified they have to pass a test. Buy the ISM DVD if this is your first time doing the test.

Hmm. Wasn't it one of their crew who, when put on the spot on Newstalk had no idea of how to signal on a roundabout?

Dermot

Stephen

I have my test on Friday.

wish me luck!

stratos

God speed, hope it goes well.

Moonbeam

It definately comes down to the tester on the day,

no matter how prepared you are or how well you drive,he can tick everybox on the form and no one can say otherwise

mikecomer

i concur with the people who disagreed with the third gear tip.
my tester told me that he failed me for not going into fourth at 30 miles/hr.

MariaRyan

I would love to put it down to my driving skills but to be honest, I think the thing that passed was my outfit - My full 1999 Arsenal kit, Jersey, shorts and socks -

Good luck Stephen, my fingers are crossed for ya and if ya have a decent pair of lags - wear shorts!!

popey21

I have my test on Monday I feel sick to my stomach thinking about it, and idea on how to get around the nerves

D!ve^Bomb!

popey21 wrote:

I have my test on Monday I feel sick to my stomach thinking about it, and idea on how to get around the nerves

don't do it.. that should sort the nerves out..

koneko

Don't get too nervous. Remember, if you fail, you can just book it again and you'll have the experience of knowing what the test is like.

Check your mirrors a lot, as Brian suggested, and make it obvious you're checking them. Take your time on the reversing-around-a-bend, you don't have to do that one fast, you just have to do it well. And practice practice practice

popey21

This is my third time to do it. The first time I was only driving about 3 weeks and wasn’t nervous at all . I think failing the first time has knocked the confidence. i feel sick at the though of failing yet again, Especially when I see so many morons who drive crazy passing the test

D!ve^Bomb!

Ok focus on this ****...

1. OBSERVATION - this is the main reason most testees fail, always check yer mirrors, as in every 15 seconds and make it obvious,

2. SPEED - Don't break the limit, simple:) if you do it's an instant fail(depending on the tester)

3. REVERSE - When you're doing your reverse around a corner bit, don't use the accelerater, control the car with the clutch and break and take it nice and slow, ALWAYS check around the car like your life depended on it, as you're turning the front of the car will be moving into the road so make sure to KEEP CHECKING FOR TRAFFIC coming from the right(as well as traffic coming from behind)

4. UPHILL START - Obviously you should start in neutral, check all mirrors - indicate(keep checking mirrors) - into first and take off, as you take of have a glance over the right shoulder..

5. GENERAL DRIVE - the test is basically about driving smoothly, moving slowly up the gears and not jerking the cars.. So don't 'put the foot down', accelerate SLOWLY and SMOOTHLY.. Always make sure you are in the correct gear in relation to the speed you're going..

Depending on the car you have, you should probably go into 2nd gear at 10mph, 3rd at 20mph etc.. but as i said it depends on the car

TURNABOUT - Main thing with this is to RELAX, DON'T cross your hands over when turning, to make this easier then go as slow as possible, this way you have more time to turn the actuall wheel.. after each turn use the handbrake and all the time be aware of what it happening around you, when using the handbrake PRESS the button in, remember these testers are doing this ALL day, i'd imagine the noise of putting a handbrake get them easily pissed off..

If you see cars coming, relax, don't panic, don't try and do it faster, the cars have to wait for you so take your time..

TURNING - when turning, don't acclererate on the turn because you'll turn wide, give yourself time to slow down and move down gears, on all turns you should be in 2nd gear.. Always stay the same distance from the kerb, if you go nice and slow and you will be..

when turning right, time when you turn, as soon as you've completed the turn you should still be the same distance from the kerb, if you have turned and THEN you have to move over to the kerb then you've done it wrong

When turning ALWAYS check your mirrors first(for cyclists etc)

If the driver tells you to turn left/right, ALWAYS check mirrors 1st, THEN indicate.

On roundabouts take it nice and slow and stay close to the roundabout..

Again the tester will be testing you untill you are back in the test centre so make sure you park well..

When you first go to the centre, make sure to reverse into a space, that way you can just pull out as normal, if you don't reverse into the space then you'll have to reverse out... WITH THE TESTER IN THE CAR!!!!

check all lights/indicaters/break lights etc work,, make sure you know what controls what on the dash...


god damn i'm tired!! i've probably left a lot of **** out

popey21

will do all of that , i feel much better now , if i fail ill blame you


Is there anywere online that has the rules of the road with all the signs you need to know. least i could be doing something contructive in work

Poz3D

Sorry, I don't know any resource online, but you can pick up a Rules of the Road book in nearly any book store for €2.50.

Stephen

I passed! \o/

irlirishkev

Well done!

Feels good doesn't it!

Poz3D

Congratulations!

I hope I have the same luck when I do my test.

stratos

Stephen well done. forums are weird eh? your rootin' for someone you don't even know. high five.

Type 17

Stephen wrote:

I passed! \o/

Well done, but bear in mind (You, and everyone else who has ever passed their test) that you will only NOW begin to REALLY learn how to drive safely/properly/fast, but safe/etc.

To give you an idea of what I mean: I passed in 1992, and now realise that what I knew when I passed the test, was only about 30% of what I now know (and I'm still not a brilliant driver - impatient with others, forget to check mirrors the odd time, too fast for the conditions sometimes, etc).

Once again, congratulations, and well done, but don't forget that you are only now in a position to start learning to be the best driver that you can be - no driver should ever stop trying to learn - good luck and safe driving!

Squirrel

My sister failed for doing 30 in a 30 zone. Some dipsh1t was doing 40 and she failed for not keeping up with traffic. Watch out for that 1

DubTony

Type 17 wrote:

... don't forget that you are only now in a position to start learning to be the best driver that you can be - no driver should ever stop trying to learn - good luck and safe driving!

Best bit of advice on the board yet.

I passed my test in

... wait for it ...

1983.

I can concur with most of the advice here. But it's got to be remembered that passing the test is simply so that you can get a licence. It doesn't mean you are a good driver, it doesn't make you brilliant. You simply passed a test.

Never stop learning. And when you make a mistake, ensure you learn from it and never make it again.

Tony

Duckjob

Some good advice on offer here. However, for what it's worth...

IMHO the single most important goal you should have going into the driving test is to leave the tester with the impression that you are 100% in confident control of the car at all times.

If the tester walks away from your car with that impression, they are not going to fail you on details such as "not doing 33 in a 30mph zone". You hear a lot of stories from people saying they got failed on such things, but a tester cannot put down on a report that they , "didn't feel at ease being driven by this person", which is probably what most failures translate to if you read between the lines.

Wasted

Failed today for second time, I am a confident(not cocky) careful driver (3 Kids), emphasis in test is arseways I failed for a series of grade 2 faults, not changing gear exactly as specified ie 2nd 20mph 3rd 30, how many road deaths where caused last year by incorrect gear selection, Not cancelling my indicators promptly enough, car tends to be reluctantant to cancel and hard to hear it beeping, for progress on a busy right turn in Dublin with an Audi speeding straight through I thought it prudent to allow it pass,wrong I should have sped in front and for going left at a junction after being told to do so, he says I meant the second left, penalised for reaction, despite a good recovery on my part, a perfect turnaround in a really narrow car and a half space in an opel astra also penalised no reason given thats just the way it is,oh and I also am unable to turn to the left, its just lucky that I have only been driving in a straight line all of this time. Apart from the indicator business none of these things matter except in the mind of a tester, they do not cause accidents and are not indicative of a bad driver, it is nit picking and arbitrary another tester in the same test could easily have passed me on the basis of due care and attention to prevailing conditions,Forgive the rant but I have better things to do than sit driving tests, I drive every single day, and I am despite what the examiner decided, a good driver. Watch out tomorrow on the roads, its full of incompetents. Hope you get a decent tester, its more important than how you drive.

koneko

Wasted wrote:

Apart from the indicator business none of these things matter except in the mind of a tester, they do not cause accidents and are not indicative of a bad driver, it is nit picking and arbitrary another tester in the same test could easily have passed me on the basis of due care and attention to prevailing conditions,

No offense, but the fact that you think making mistakes are fine as long as they don't cause accidents makes me think the tester was right to fail you. Mistakes mount up. You think it's fine to make them, you start making more, and that doesn't make a person a safe driver. You should be working to improve mistakes you make, instead of getting cocky and assuming you know everything already.

Forgive the rant but I have better things to do than sit driving tests, I drive every single day, and I am despite what the examiner decided, a good driver.

A lot of people drive every day, that doesn't mean they're good. The driving test is necessary to ensure there is at least some level of competency out there. The test should be a lot harder than it already is, but it's better than having no test at all.

D!ve^Bomb!

Wasted wrote:

Failed today for second time, I am a confident(not cocky) careful driver (3 Kids), emphasis in test is arseways I failed for a series of grade 2 faults, not changing gear exactly as specified ie 2nd 20mph 3rd 30, how many road deaths where caused last year by incorrect gear selection, Not cancelling my indicators promptly enough, car tends to be reluctantant to cancel and hard to hear it beeping, for progress on a busy right turn in Dublin with an Audi speeding straight through I thought it prudent to allow it pass,wrong I should have sped in front and for going left at a junction after being told to do so, he says I meant the second left, penalised for reaction, despite a good recovery on my part, a perfect turnaround in a really narrow car and a half space in an opel astra also penalised no reason given thats just the way it is,oh and I also am unable to turn to the left, its just lucky that I have only been driving in a straight line all of this time. Apart from the indicator business none of these things matter except in the mind of a tester, they do not cause accidents and are not indicative of a bad driver, it is nit picking and arbitrary another tester in the same test could easily have passed me on the basis of due care and attention to prevailing conditions,Forgive the rant but I have better things to do than sit driving tests, I drive every single day, and I am despite what the examiner decided, a good driver. Watch out tomorrow on the roads, its full of incompetents. Hope you get a decent tester, its more important than how you drive.

you didn't do your test in tallaght did ya?

Keyzer

To all you people who failed and are whining about it - Tough.
I failed the first time, I was not prepared at all for the test.
I passed the second time, having watched a school of motoring video several times, 3 pretests and hours or practice.

Saying you are a good driver means jack.
Would you be alright with someone who is training to be a doctor failing his exams but telling you "I'm a very good Doctor, the exams were stupid"....

Its an exam, therefore you prepare for the exam in the correct manner.
If you fail, you have only yourself to blame, not the inspector or the test.
I made mistakes on my test when I passed, but overall the instructor obviously deemed me to be competent enough to earn a full licence.

D!ve^Bomb!

Keyzer, you just completely contradicted yourself.. it totally depends on what tester you get..

I made mistakes on my test when I passed,

PERSACTLY!:D.. you were lucky to pass. the tester just thought he'd give you the benefit of the doubt.. people in this thread alone have said they were fúckin speeding and STILL passed!! i mean come on!

i failed because i didn't cancel my indicators 'promptly' enough, now that is just fúckin rediculous and just goes to show just how arse ways this country it.. the test means **** all tbh, the only reason i want to do it is because of insurance cost, other than that i couldn't give a fúck..

seamus

D!ve^Bomb! wrote:

i failed because i didn't cancel my indicators 'promptly' enough, now that is just fúckin rediculous and just goes to show just how arse ways this country it.. the test means **** all tbh, the only reason i want to do it is because of insurance cost, other than that i couldn't give a fúck..

That's not a grade 3 fault. Clearly you had other faults.
When I failed my bike test, it was all for things which showed a lack of confidence with the bike - it was a school bike, which was bigger than my own, and the sum of my experience on it was doing 40mph through the Phoenix park behind the instructor, 20 minutes before the test
My faults indicated lack of confidence on the bike, and they were right, I didn't know the bike at all. It's frustrating obviously when you know that you don't make these mistakes under normal conditions, but what can you do?

Keyzer

D!ve^Bomb! wrote:

Keyzer, you just completely contradicted yourself.. it totally depends on what tester you get.. ..

I made mistakes, yes, negligible mistakes, but the instructor obviously deemed me competent enough to earn a full licsense.
I was very confident when doing my test, and I made sure the instructor knew it.
How do you know it depends on the instructor? It doesn't depend on how you drive then? or your competency? or your understanding and reading of driving situations?

i failed because i didn't cancel my indicators 'promptly' enough, now that is just fúckin rediculous and just goes to show just how arse ways this country it.. the test means **** all tbh, the only reason i want to do it is because of insurance cost, other than that i couldn't give a fúck..

Thats called a mis-leading signal my friend.
Just because when you did it on your test and there might not have been a car behind, the instructor must assume you do this all the time.

And for the record, there is no way you failed for just this reason.
You failed because of multiple reasons, and those reasons combined deemed you not fit to hold a full driving licsense.
I failed the first time for multiple reasons, however, my driving has improved hugely since failing for the first time and passing the second time.

And the only reason you want to pass is to save money on your insurance?
Not to be a safer driver? What a great philosophy to have.
This philosophy is the reason why there are so many crap drivers on the roads in Ireland.

D!ve^Bomb!

no offence keyzer but you're talkin bollox.. yes it does depend on what tester you get,, this is just fact.. learn to live with it..

i did make other mistakes,, and not canceling your indicator promptly enough is misleading,, this is why he marked me for for both being misleadin and not cancelling promptly enough.. but these weren't even in situations when turning left or right, this was for over taking parked cars on a narrow road, i indicated to pass these parked cars and i didn't cancel the indicator until i was back on my side of the road.. how exactly is this being misleading? even though i did make a couple of other mistakes, if he hadn't of marked me for this shíte then i would have passed..

how exactly does passing my test make me a safer driver?

man, the a majority of drivers on the road have full licences.. it means ****, everyday someone nearly kills me..

Keyzer

D!ve^Bomb! wrote:

no offence keyzer but you're talkin bollox.. yes it does depend on what tester you get,, this is just fact.. learn to live with it..

I don't accept this nonsense, how many times have you taken your driving test?

i did make other mistakes,, and not canceling your indicator promptly enough is misleading,, this is why he marked me for for both being misleadin and not cancelling promptly enough.. but these weren't even in situations when turning left or right, this was for over taking parked cars on a narrow road, i indicated to pass these parked cars and i didn't cancel the indicator until i was back on my side of the road.. how exactly is this being misleading? even though i did make a couple of other mistakes, if he hadn't of marked me for this shíte then i would have passed..

When you were indicating, was there a turn coming up on the other side of the road? Your supposed to indicate for 2-3 seconds and then cancel.
You don't need to indicate that your going back in - did you know this?
Did you prepare at all for your test?

how exactly does passing my test make me a safer driver?

Its not supposed to make you a safer driver - its supposed to prove you already are one.

D!ve^Bomb!

well it's nice of you to make assumptions to prove your point.. but alas, they are only assumptions..

i did the driving test once.. when i was indicating there was no turn on either side of the road, hence i was not being misleading, and no i did not indicate when i was going back in.. :rolleyes:

I did prepare, my brother gave me lessons for three weeks before hand, he was a driving instructor and gave pre-tests for the ISM, he couldn't believe i failed, he said i failed for nothing..

how does the test prove you're already a good driver, what does a test prove in 20mins driving, it proves FúCK ALL!!

Keyzer

Righto...
So you've done the test once and that then makes you authority on driving instructors?

With your attitude I guarantee you'll fail the next time as well....

Either way you look at it, you failed your driving test, not the driving instructor. Your faults combined went over the threshold and you failed.
Therefore, you need to improve your driving in order for you to pass your test, its as simple as that no matter what your opinion of the test is.

koneko

D!ve^Bomb! wrote:

I did prepare, my brother gave me lessons for three weeks before hand, he was a driving instructor and gave pre-tests for the ISM, he couldn't believe i failed, he said i failed for nothing..

In fairness, your brother wasn't there during the test. Some people don't do well during test, they make people nervous and perform worse than they usually would.

Did you prepare specifically for the driving test for 3 weeks, or was that in general (3 weeks driving experience)? Genuine question, not a dig or anything, I'm asking , because 3 weeks on the road isn't a lot of driving experience.

D!ve^Bomb!

In fairness, your brother wasn't there during the test. Some people don't do well during test, they make people nervous and perform worse than they usually would.

no, 3 weeks for the test specifically..

I understand what you're sayin,, i did make one or two mistakes in the test due to nerves, and they were stupid mistakes, i also think the tester should take into consideration people do get nervous!

Keyzer wrote:

Righto...
So you've done the test once and that then makes you authority on driving instructors? .

I don't even know what this sentence means, where do you get the impression i think i'm an 'authority on driving instructors', what does that mean? the amount of times i've heard people saying how **** they did and still passed, read through the thread and you might notice, i know someone who passed who even stalled the fúckin car!! :rolleyes:

Keyzer wrote:

With your attitude I guarantee you'll fail the next time as well.....

What attitude is that? because i think the test is a joke i'm gonna fail the next time? please explain

Keyzer wrote:

Either way you look at it, you failed your driving test, not the driving instructor. Your faults combined went over the threshold and you failed.
Therefore, you need to improve your driving in order for you to pass your test, its as simple as that no matter what your opinion of the test is.

you have no idea what i'm trying to say do you :rolleyes: i KNOW i made a few mistakes ok? WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY is i was marked for something completely stupid, and it was because of that that i failed, if i WASN'T marked for that then i would NOT HAVE met the criteria for a fail, ya get me now? yeah? i can't remember the exact catergories on the paper they give you at the end but i was not marked once for the most important categories, ie, control of car, speed, observation, awareness of other road users etc... NOT ONCE!

as i said already, someone in this thread said they passed even though they were speeding, fúckin SPEEDING, speeding is an INSTANT FAIL, so i'll say it again, IT ALL DEPENDS ON WHAT TESTER YOU GET!!!

now have i made that all clear now?

Keyzer

you have no idea what i'm trying to say do you :rolleyes: i KNOW i made a few mistakes ok? WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY is i was marked for something completely stupid, and it was because of that that i failed, if i WASN'T marked for that then i would NOT HAVE met the criteria for a fail, ya get me now? yeah? i can't remember the exact catergories on the paper they give you at the end but i was not marked once for the most important categories, ie, control of car, speed, observation, awareness of other road users etc... NOT ONCE!

as i said already, someone in this thread said they passed even though they were speeding, fúckin SPEEDING, speeding is an INSTANT FAIL, so i'll say it again, IT ALL DEPENDS ON WHAT TESTER YOU GET!!!

now have i made that all clear now?

I know exactly what your saying buddy.
I don't know the exact grading system, but your allowed several minor mistakes in the test (I think its about 9). You said you didn't get marked down for anything major so you must have made a lot of minor mistakes. Your indicating mistake capped all those minor mistakes and therefore you failed, it wasn't the only reason you failed. It was the last mistake you made, out of a series of mistakes, which you failed for.

And I'm sorry but I simply disagree with you on the instructor thing.
Those people who listed things they did and still passed, those things might have been the one and only mistake they made in the whole test. As I said, your allowed 1 or 2 grade 3 mistakes (I think grade 3 is the most serious).
Speeding is not an instant fail, its a serious mistake, but not instant fail.
Im sure that person meant they went a little faster than the speed limit, not 90 mph thru a housing estate.

The comment I made about your attitude still stands.
If you regard the test as stupid and that it all boils down to the instructor you get then you will most likely fail again imo. Theres no point in arguing about it, post after post, thats just my opinion.

The best thing that happened to me in terms of driving was failing my test for the first time. I became a better driver because of it, and I learned things and realised things about my driving that I had never noticed before, things that I needed to work on.

D!ve^Bomb!

Keyzer wrote:

I know exactly what your saying buddy.
I don't know the exact grading system, but your allowed several minor mistakes in the test (I think its about 9). You said you didn't get marked down for anything major so you must have made a lot of minor mistakes. Your indicating mistake capped all those minor mistakes and therefore you failed, it wasn't the only reason you failed. It was the last mistake you made, out of a series of mistakes, which you failed for..

Ok fair enough, except i was marked 3 times for not cancelling my indicators promptly enough(there were 3 cars parked on the same road and i had to indicate each time because of the gap between them).. and because i did this, i was marked 3 times for being misleading, even tho there were not left or right turn nor was there any cars infront or behind me..

Thats SIX times for the same thing! do you really think that's fair? i think that's a fúckin joke!! so i did not make 'alot' of mistakes, k?

Keyzer wrote:

And I'm sorry but I simply disagree with you on the instructor thing.
Those people who listed things they did and still passed, those things might have been the one and only mistake they made in the whole test. As I said, your allowed 1 or 2 grade 3 mistakes (I think grade 3 is the most serious).
Speeding is not an instant fail, its a serious mistake, but not instant fail.
Im sure that person meant they went a little faster than the speed limit, not 90 mph thru a housing estate. ..

Man, speeding is speeding, it doesn't matter what speed you go, how the fúck did you pass your test, jesus christ, you don't even know what you're talking about,, if you get ONE grade 3 then you fail.. breaking the speed limit is a grade 3, think about it, you have broken the law in a driving test, do you really think they should give you a pass for that? maybe you think that we should be allowed drive through stop signs aswell? :rolleyes:

Keyzer wrote:

The comment I made about your attitude still stands.
If you regard the test as stupid and that it all boils down to the instructor you get then you will most likely fail again imo. Theres no point in arguing about it, post after post, thats just my opinion...

fair enough, my point still stands also.. i does depend on the tester, not my attitude, i don't get into the car and then argue with the fúckin tester,, i just do the test and drive as best i can.. my attitude doesn't come into it..

Keyzer wrote:

The best thing that happened to me in terms of driving was failing my test for the first time. I became a better driver because of it, and I learned things and realised things about my driving that I had never noticed before, things that I needed to work on.

well according to my test, all i have to do next time is cancel my indicators faster, gee, what a **** driver i am :rolleyes:

Keyzer

Ah whatever, do what ye want...
Sure your the best driver in the world already aren't ye?

D!ve^Bomb!

why yes, cos that *is* what i said:rolleyes:

note the sarcasm

Praetorian

I did my test about 2 months ago. Got it first time in Dundalk. Silly me thought Dundalk would be quicker than Finglas. Took 4 months to get that test, and I was on the cancellation list!

Jesus Dundalk is a bítch of a town to drive around

Keyzer

Why didn't you explain to him what you were doing?

Here, I'm bored with this nonsense.
You failed and thats the bottom line, good luck next time...