Weird goings on at work

steviem

A couple of weeks ago me and my boss were doing the late shift in the pub where i work. At the end of the night he was looking for cling film to cover a jug. He went into the kitchen then came back out and asked where the film had gone to, i told him that i last saw it on the shelf where it always sits. I then went in and both of us hunted the kitchen for this roll of cling film.

Reckoning it must have finished and someone threw the roll out the boss then opened a new pack on the kitchen worktop and brought it out to the bar.

Next morning on opening up the new roll was sitting where we had left it but when he went into the kitchen, the boss found the old roll sitting in the middle of the worktop right where we opened the new roll the night before.

Now, if one of us had missed it, fair enough. But both of us hunted that kitchen together the previous night and that roll was nowhere to be seen.

Also, lightbulbs keep falling out of their holders at night when theres only a couple of people in. He reckons it just a dodgy lot of bulbs but why does it never happen when the pub is busy with more vibrations likely to cause a problem with them.

Stark

One of your employees is taking the mickey?

Oryx

stuff like that happens us in work from time to time, papers going missing just when you need them, the one item you need nowhere to be seen only to turn up when you dont want it, we call it the cosmic joker, it would be amusing if it wasnt so frustrating! Maybe its the same gremlin that eats bic biros and hides odd socks

Zillah

Why is it that ghosts love pubs?

Oryx

phlematic wrote:

Why is it that ghosts love pubs?

I guess its all the spirits in the place, boom boom!

Zillah

Ba dum, tcsh

steviem

One of your employees is taking the mickey?

I wish, we locked the pub and opened again the next morning..

[Jackass]

KatieK wrote:

stuff like that happens us in work from time to time, papers going missing just when you need them, the one item you need nowhere to be seen only to turn up when you dont want it, we call it the cosmic joker, it would be amusing if it wasnt so frustrating! Maybe its the same gremlin that eats bic biros and hides odd socks

Ya, i know that guy, So annoying!!!!

I hear he's related to the missing sock fairy!

steviem

This afternoon i was working away as concientously as ever!! Anyway, myself and the girl i was working with were standing at the till in front of one of the customers. We heard a voice calling her name clear as day and turned round, when we turrned round we also noticed that the customer at the bar had turned round also. The girl asked him what he wanted but he said that he never said anything but he also heard the voice calling her name and thats why he had turned around, to see who it was. I think you can guess whats coming, no-one was there....

Getting spookier by the day..

Zillah

Cool! Keep us updated. How did "the girl" react? Has she lost anyone recently? How old is she? Does she have a history of this sort of thing? Where's the pub?

Oryx

Phlematic asked all the questions I was thinking of. If its not a stupid question did you recognise the voice? Male/female?
Would love to hear how this develops, youve probably all got the heeby jeebies now, dont panic REALLY bad things only happen in the movies.

stormkeeper

KatieK wrote:

I guess its all the spirits in the place, boom boom!

lol, I haven't heard a joke like that for ages...

preytec

i seen a film just like that, the haunted:http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0102007/
it's ment to be a true story, but it sounds just like it, things disappearing and been called by name,itwas made for TV and i only saw it once on ITV but it would be worth trying to get a copy

keep us posted on any events that happen. in the film a guy gets raped by this young girl that keeps changing into an old woman and a man and back to the girl

joe.

what happened next

[Jackass]

preytec wrote:

in the film a guy gets raped by this young girl that keeps changing into an old woman and a man and back to the girl

HOLY SH!T!!!
And this is a true story????
Dude...quit your job!!

steviem

OK, time for an updated that has quite freaked me out. At this point i must tell you that i worked in this pub 5/6 years ago and left to work abroad, only returning this summer. Back to the story, I've only rememberd to update cos we were discussing it again tonight.

Couple of weeks ago, Friday night.One of the regular customers came in with his wife and stood at the end of the bar talking to some other guy. They never stayed and left after a couple of minutes. I turned to the manager who was standing beside me and said " God, i haven't seen her since i came back" she asked who and i said "*****'s wife, she used to moan about everything". Manager said "who you talking about" i said again ******'s wife, haven't seen her in ages. She then told me that she had died the year before. Manager looked at me and said " you seen her?" and i said that she was standing behind ***** at the bar. Talking about it now she said that i went pale and my face just dropped when i found out that the woman had been dead a year yet i had seen her standing behind her husband at the bar.

preytec

so what your saying is that "you see dead people"
where did i hear that before?
what are known as ghosts are meant to be natural emotional holograms recorded by large bodies of water or stone, they appear very rarely and draw of “close by” life energy, allot of people that see such an event say how they feel cold and couldn’t move but put it down to fear. They can’t interact, they’ve got one path to travel, like walking down a hall, but if the house plan was changed you might see them walking with their legs under the floor or walking through walls
thats not to say there's nothing else out there, i just think you're changing the type of story, what you were talking about was a "demon" or better known as a poltergeist, now you'er saying that a customer spirt is haunting the pub? did she die there?
if you want why not ask if http://www.praofi.org will take you up on it and see what they find

steviem

so what your saying is that "you see dead people"[

No i didn't, i said that i saw "a person". If i saw a horde of them then i would be sh*tting myself.

now you'er saying that a customer spirt is haunting the pub? did she die there?

Erm, no i didn't say that either, at any point in the recollection. Read again.

What i was suggesting was that she was still with him, she came into the pub with him, she left with him.


Please feel free to attempt to discredit my experiences at any time, but please do so with only the facts that i have provided. Don't be adding your own bits in. If it happens i will tell you, if it doesn't happen don't add it to make your reply sound more plausible. I thank you...

Zillah

Preytec you're all over the place.

To so confindently lable something as a "demon" or a poltergeist is naive. They both have dozens of different meanings and interpretations, its probably best if you don't post it as fact. A clever man once said "You're entitled to your own opinion, not your own facts."

Steviem wrote:

Please feel free to attempt to discredit my experiences at any time

Child...candy shop...

But more seriously, given what we know, the situation must be one of the following.

A - You're lying
B - You're insane
C - Something very wierd is going on.



EDIT: Thanks for update, keep em coming.

preytec

phlematic
wtf are you kidding? the warrens are the ppl saying that demons are poltergeist, plus he's already said that the light bulbs have fallen from the holders and that things have gone missing, so what’s that tell ye?
plus I’m not saying there facts, it’s an online forum if you take everything ppl post as FACT… well you deserve everything you get. might have ran my post by your "clever man" before you posted, is he the same guy that said "lay down with dogs, get up with fee's" ask him the next time you see him

steviem,
yes you said you saw someone from beyond the grave, it’s only a matter of time before you see another one, but why would her sprit show herself to you? What would be the point? wouldn’t it be better to appear to him to let him know

the_syco

steviem wrote:

me and my boss were doing the late shift in the pub



lightbulbs keep falling out of their holders at night when theres only a couple of people in

:rolleyes: Sounds like one of your staff doesn't like the light

steviem

But more seriously, given what we know, the situation must be one of the following.

A - You're lying
B - You're insane
C - Something very wierd is going on.

I would reckon a mix of B & C , but i promise you, hand on heart, that i am not lying. The only reason that i am not going to mention the pub or it's location is that some accounts have been shared here that involve the personal lives of a few of the customers/regulars. I would have no wish whatsoever to tell him that i saw his late wife standing behind him as i know that it would upset him greatly.

What i will do is share any further experiances with you. All has been quiet this past couple of weeks, but you never know the moment.

Oryx

preytec wrote:

yes you said you saw someone from beyond the grave, it’s only a matter of time before you see another one, but why would her sprit show herself to you? What would be the point? wouldn’t it be better to appear to him to let him know

Ye gods, no. How would you feel if that happened to you? Youd book yourself into the local mental asap. Sounds like an accidental appearance that o/p happened to catch.

logic1

preytec wrote:

is he the same guy that said "lay down with dogs, get up with fee's"

What kind of pervert charges people to lay down with dogs?

.logic.

Zillah

Wow. Um

preytec wrote:

phlematic
wtf are you kidding? the warrens are the ppl saying that demons are poltergeist, plus he's already said that the light bulbs have fallen from the holders and that things have gone missing, so what’s that tell ye?

I have NO idea what you're trying to convey with this. Really.

As far as I know a demon is traditionally a resident of hell, one of the servants of satan, used to torment the damned. In a more modern context a demon has become a title for any sort of negative or evil spirit.

Poltergeist is a german word meaning "noisy ghost" and is used as a title for any sort of bizarre phenomena that involves loud noises or things moving with no visible source. What definition you subscribe to, I don't know.

preytec wrote:

plus I’m not saying there facts, it’s an online forum if you take everything ppl post as FACT… well you deserve everything you get

Its just common courtesy to clarify when you are posting something you personally have a belief in, and when you're posting something that you know to be proven fact. (For example, above I posted my admitedly scant opinion as to the etimology of the word "demon", but I posted the translation of poltergeist as fact.)
Also, I presume you meant "flees" instead of "fee's". I'd hope to find some dogs that are clean of flees thank you.

Steviem wrote:

What i will do is share any further experiances with you. All has been quiet this past couple of weeks, but you never know the moment.

Quiet before the storm I tell you!!

Zillah

**bump**

79cortinaz

preytec wrote:

so what your saying is that "you see dead people"
where did i hear that before?
what are known as ghosts are meant to be natural emotional holograms recorded by large bodies of water or stone, they appear very rarely and draw of “close by” life energy, allot of people that see such an event say how they feel cold and couldn’t move but put it down to fear. They can’t interact, they’ve got one path to travel, like walking down a hall, but if the house plan was changed you might see them walking with their legs under the floor or walking through walls
thats not to say there's nothing else out there, i just think you're changing the type of story, what you were talking about was a "demon" or better known as a poltergeist, now you'er saying that a customer spirt is haunting the pub? did she die there?
if you want why not ask if http://www.praofi.org will take you up on it and see what they find

what you are saying there is quite quite confused.

There is a theory that 'playback' ghosts, ie those that are mainly emotional information captured byt the environment and played back when the conditions are right, theres a theory that iwater remembers thigns and since most matierals are made up of certain amounts of water then stones, walls etc etc can 'remember' the emotional information cast off during a death. murder etc etc.

thats only a theory though. theres much more to all these things besides water remembering information, demons and poltergiests.

are you linked to PRAI? If so you should think a bit more before posting as you arent doing their credibility much good

Zillah

I very much doubt he's from PRAI. Anyway, the idea of water recording things is kinda silly to me. Water always moves. If something happened beside a lake in 1900 then the water in that lake has probably changed completely several times by now. Lakes dont move as quickly as say, a river, but all water flows towards the ocean.

79cortinaz

well years ago they found that if you used water to make a placebo of a medicine, then diluted it until there were no traces of the original medicine found in it, that the palcebo had the same effect and when chemically analyised showed properties similar to that of the medicine. they reckoned this was because the water had a memory and 'remembered' the makeup of the chemical. this theory has since been applied to the playback theory with the idea that somehow moisture content in walls etc etc 'remembers' what had happened - but you raise a good point - surely the moisture content would be made up of different water over the years so how would it remember what the other water had rememebered? eekk! im confused!!

Zillah

years ago they found that if you used water to make a placebo of a medicine, then diluted it until there were no traces of the original medicine found in it, that the palcebo had the same effect and when chemically analyised showed properties similar to that of the medicine.

You'll forgive me if I don't take this at face value. Could you link me to the research/news article etc? I'd really like that clarified, as given my understanding of science it doesnt make sense to me.

Stark

I think he's talking about homeopathy.

People have found it to be highly effective, even one woman who was vehemently against it and set out to disprove its usefulness only to be made a convert. It hasn't been subjected to the same rigourness scientific investigation as conventional drugs though.

Also in homeopathy, it's the disease you dilute, not the medicine. My amateur scientific opinion is that it's like introducing a diluted vaccine to the system, you stimulate your body's own defences against it. The placebo effect probably helps boost the effect and focuses your body's awareness on fighting the disease.

I would have thought they leave a few parts of the original disease in the mixture, but apparently they dilute it so much that the chances of any of the original disease being left are totally miniscule. People who practise homeopathy claim the disease leaves an "imprint" on the water molecules. This is probably what the poster above was getting at. Don't ask me how you could possibly leave an "imprint" on molecules.

Zillah

79cortinaz wrote:

but you raise a good point - surely the moisture content would be made up of different water over the years so how would it remember what the other water had rememebered? eekk! im confused!!

If we're considering that water can record things, then perhaps the water passes on the recording to the new water that enters. Think of it like a coloured dye. As you add more water it all changes colour, but every time it dilutes a bit, but there'll always be a trace.

preytec

what you are saying there is quite quite confused

i know, thats the point, the story has holes in it, well done
as for "demons" who said they are from hell? the bible? so they shouldn't be here on earth? but isn't that the whole point of earth, it's a battle ground between good and evil, you pick your side and died with it, so wouldn't you expect that warriors from both sides would be able to cross over and fight it out

as for the PRAI and credibility, go and dl the video and make up your own mind, look at what they are doing and listen to whats been said, i could say something but i'd like to see if you can pick them out yourself

and listen to that gerry ryan clip, listen to the tone of gerrys voice. now if you know gerry you should be able to read between the lines

it’s funny that there are books and films out there like the entity and the exorcist that are based on true events but ppl still think they want to play with these things as if they have something to prove or they might get fame from it, but wait, now look at that “ live exorcist” that was on channel 4, it was a joke from the word go, the guy doing it wasn’t even with a church, he had his own church and a holy tie on, I feel so sorry for the victim, he’ll never get a bird again, he’s finished. but that’s not why I feel sorry for him, it’s cause he believes he’s been played with by the devil, so much so that he was willing to go onto that show, and put himself up there for everyone to look at and judge. He must have a horrible life to make such a cry for help. or then again, maybe he’s getting a few quid as a backhander and it’s all just an act to boost ratings.

But it all comes down to belief, and what you want to believe in, it is important, but remember if you want to believe that demons are only in hell wouldn’t that be like thinking that Chinese are only in china?

stevenmu

Regarding homeopathy, what I heard about it is that it's the medicine that's diluted. It's probably done in different ways but my understanding was that a small quantity of the herb/medicine to be used is added to water. It is strongly shaken for an extended period of time. The idea of this is that the water take on the healing properties of the original herb/medicine. Small quantities of this water are added to larger quantities of water which are shaken again. This is repeated a few times and the resulting water is added to tablets (can't remember how exactly). It's been shown that during the process the water molocules take on the same shape as the orgininal herb/medicine and it is thought that this is how it takes on the healing properties. Also because it's practically pure water (only a trace amount of the original medicine persists) it absorbs into the body much quicker than other forms.

(I'll have a look for links to back up the molecule/shape bit before anyone stones me )

Zillah

Oh in the name of all the gods of rationailty...

Preytec wrote:

as for "demons" who said they are from hell? the bible? so they shouldn't be here on earth? but isn't that the whole point of earth, it's a battle ground between good and evil, you pick your side and died with it, so wouldn't you expect that warriors from both sides would be able to cross over and fight it out

Ok first of all I don't believe in

A- God
B- Hell
C- Demons

...so it'd be appreciated if you didn't take this sort of thing for granted.

Please define your interpretation of the word "demon". And I do mean define, not spout drivel.

Preytec wrote:

as for the PRAI and credibility, go and dl the video and make up your own mind, look at what they are doing and listen to whats been said, i could say something but i'd like to see if you can pick them out yourself

and listen to that gerry ryan clip, listen to the tone of gerrys voice. now if you know gerry you should be able to read between the lines

This I have no opinion on. I know little of Gerry Ryan, but whenever PRAI members have been here they've been a hell of a lot more logical and reasonably sceptical than you've been.

Preytec wrote:

it’s funny that there are books and films out there like the entity and the exorcist that are based on true events but ppl still think they want to play with these things as if they have something to prove or they might get fame from it, but wait, now look at that “ live exorcist” that was on channel 4, it was a joke from the word go, the guy doing it wasn’t even with a church, he had his own church and a holy tie on, I feel so sorry for the victim, he’ll never get a bird again, he’s finished. but that’s not why I feel sorry for him, it’s cause he believes he’s been played with by the devil, so much so that he was willing to go onto that show, and put himself up there for everyone to look at and judge. He must have a horrible life to make such a cry for help. or then again, maybe he’s getting a few quid as a backhander and it’s all just an act to boost ratings.

These are just words that when strung together seem to carry very little over all meaning. If this has a point, please clarify it.

Preytec wrote:

But it all comes down to belief, and what you want to believe in, it is important, but remember if you want to believe that demons are only in hell wouldn’t that be like thinking that Chinese are only in china?

I have seen, spoken with, touched and kissed Chinese people. You sir are the closest I have come to demons.


As regards to homeopathy, dictionary dot com solves all.

"A system for treating disease based on the administration of minute doses of a drug that in massive amounts produces symptoms in healthy individuals similar to those of the disease itself."