Am i losing my mind???

Chinafoot

okay a few months ago i was lying in bed half asleep and i had an awful feeling that there was somebody in my room. then i felt this great weight on top of me and i couldnt move. it was scary....then the weight lifted but i felt the side of my bed move down, ya know like if somebody were to sit on it. then it lifted and i was able to move again. i put this down to "must have been a dream" but it was so real.

since then i've always had a terrible feeling in my room when i turn the light off. im 21 years of age and feel like such a gimp! i've NEVER had a problem sleeping with the lights off. but when i do turn the lights off i keep thinking i can see things in the corner of my eye and just have a very uneasy feeling in general. as a result i sleep with a lamp on.

anyway this morning something freaky happened....i woke up at 630am as per usual and my light was off....presume my dad came in and turned it off...but anyway i was facing to the left (which is where the lamp is) like i always do but for some reason i turned over and faced to my right (where my desk is). i saw the weirdest thing. it looked like there was a tall man leaning against my desk!!! i could see his outline and then suddenly i could make out his face.... :eek: he *seemed* to be smiling but im not 100% sure.
anyway, i rolled over and very quickly turned on the light and of course there was nobody there. it really freaked me out and i've been putting it down to just not being fully awake....but like the incident a few months ago it was seemed so real!!!

so do you reckon im just going nuts???

calis

nah there havce been reports of this all thru history and even some very famous paintings depict demons sitting on peoples chests as they sleep. i read about this few years ago but me aul mind is gone and the details have become sketchy.

Chinafoot

calis wrote:

demons sitting on peoples chests as they sleep.

well thats comforting! :eek:

GuanYin

Its called sleep paralysis. Its not uncommon and was the origin of the succubus/incubus myth.

Basically the switch in your brain that keeps you immobile during sleep doesn't switch back on when you wake and the perception is a side effect.

Talliesin

Yep, I'm not one to completely dismiss the idea of otherworldly factors, but sleep paralysis is well documented and studied and has exactly the symptoms you describe. It can be scary, and your increased anxiety about sleeping is understandable, but you aren't losing your mind.

As for the person you saw, again I believe in various entities that don't fit into the scientific view of the world, but the most likely explanation is that you were partly asleep and you saw a person, and later a face, because the part of our brains that deal with processing visual information is keyed to find first faces and secondly humanoid shapes from the time we are babies being fed and looking up at a face onwards. As such your brain will be biased towards seeing a face or a human shape whenever it has incomplete visual information (because it's dark, you aren't wearing glasses you need, you are half-asleep, you've only just started looking at the scene and haven't taken it all in yet [our eyes only see a small area in detail and the blur around that gets filled in by our brain from memory] etc.).

Try to get yourself into a less anxious state of mind before you go to sleep, relaxation exercises can help or a good comedy book or tv show (for that matter if it is something on the psychic plane a good hearty laugh is one of the best weapons of psychic self-defense there is).

[Jackass]

I wouldn't worry about if i was you, very simular thing happend to me not long ago in bed, except i was on my side, and i open'd my eyes and it felt like i had been tied down and gagged, i even tried to speak/shout, but all that came out was a grunt, and then i was able to move.....my heart was thumping after it i was so freaked.....but my mate told me all about the sleep paralys thing before so i wasnt to worried about it since...as for the dude in your room, its just the fact that if this kind of thing is in the back of your mind, or if you were still a little frightind, your mind will just play tricks on you....but on the other hand, you could just have an evil spirit stalking and attacking you in your room!!!

solas

I had that happen to me years ago and I've often read of other peoples experiences and they all say the same thing. They always add the suggestion that they sensed a presence or felt someone was sitting on their chests or were made aware of something in the room.

I didn't have those thoughts, which is strange because I am open to the possibility of the paranormal, I was just very conscious that I wasn't able to move and that's just a horrible feeling. It was like being on the inside looking out and not being able to do anything. I tried so hard to move but it was impossible and it was very frustrating. I never associated that sensation with someone sitting on my chest tho..

What did freak me out was the deafening hum, waves and waves of a very loud buzzing sound and it felt like it was sucking me out of my body (through my head) and I was trying very hard to "hold on" and get movement back into my body.

In doing some reading on sleep paralysis, it seems it most often occurs when you sleep on your back, I do recall that I was laying on my back during the whole thing, so I tend to sleep on my front or side (recovery position). Occasionally I get the humming sensation just as I'm dropping off to sleep and it wakes me up again, but I'm more relaxed about it now and almost enjoy the sensation, usually interpret it as I'm really tired and and going to have a very (lovely and needed) deep sleep.

try sleeping on your front or side..and if your nervous about the whole thing keep a tea light burning (make sure its safe and in a purposely designed protective holder)

stevenmu

Sleep paralysis is often associated with Astral Travelling. Whether you choose to believe in it or not, it may be worth reading about it to reassure yourself that it's not too unusual and is perfectly safe. It's possible your continuing fears are due to apprehension over you first experience so understanding and being comfortable with that may help.

I had a similar experience before too, except that I thought someone was coming in the window. I felt the vibrations too similar to Solas except I felt more like I was being sucked back into my body. It can be a pretty enjoyable thing, afterwards of course, when you've figured out what the hell just happened. It helped a lot too that I'd recently read a thread here on Night Terrors

peachypants wrote:

so do you reckon im just going nuts???

If you are, don't worry about it. Just sit back, relax and enjoy it, it's a hell of a ride...

[Jackass]

solas wrote:

What did freak me out was the deafening hum, waves and waves of a very loud buzzing sound and it felt like it was sucking me out of my body (through my head) and I was trying very hard to "hold on" and get movement back into my body.

Holy crap....ya i forgot about that, infact i think that was what woke me up..i was in a semi-dream, and thought a bee flew into my ear or something, then i woke up, and the bee-buzzing sound was really loud, thats when i tried to talk/shout!! Now it makes more sense to me.

Deffenatly not paranormal...but still fu<kin freaky as sh!t when it happens!!!

Jonathanpbk

weird that this just came up! that happened to me the other day! i was wrecked tired and i went to bed. i was staying with a friend in his aunt's house and we were sharing a big double bed. i started to get these horrible images in my head as i was drifting off which put me in an anxious state.... then came the buzzing! it sounded like my doorbell at first but it started to get really loud so i tried to tell my friend what was happening and that i wanted it to stop but i couldnt speak or move! then it stopped and i got to sleep grand just after! but i had no idea it was a common enough thing!

solas

except I felt more like I was being sucked back into my body.

I agree..being sucked back in fits the sensation, it was painful physically (until I relaxed) there was a great pressure on my crown and my ears as if comming in for landing there's the knowing that your really "not in your body" but at the same time you are, at least the mind is wide awake and connected. It's the strangest sensation.
Reading the thread has me kinda laughing at the memory of trying to shout, absolutley nothing came out until after a few minutes when I had finally managed to regain control of my body and a great big warrior cry splits the silence....RRAAAAHHaarr..err

Stark

http://www.astralvoyage.com/spirituality/subself.html

Interesting theory.

Holy crap....ya i forgot about that, infact i think that was what woke me up..i was in a semi-dream, and thought a bee flew into my ear or something, then i woke up, and the bee-buzzing sound was really loud, thats when i tried to talk/shout!! Now it makes more sense to me.

Deffenatly not paranormal...but still fu<kin freaky as sh!t when it happens!!!

The woman behind the astralvoyage site also mentions this "bee in the ear" sensation, it's quite common for people to experience it.

It's a great site, even if I'm not sure about some of the spirituality stuff, I find the "one soul" theory a bit questionable, and conflicts with stuff I've read elsewhere so I'm not sure exactly what to believe.

Zapho

Well the thing is that you are not paralysed when you sleep. If you were, you'd run up a very high risk of getting a blood clot in your leg or something. To prevent this you actually move an awful lot during sleep and its not slight movements either, its complete turn arounds, constantly changing positions.
Nah I wouldn't put this down to a sleep problem peachypants, especially if you've never expecienced this before. When I spent a few months at my granddads house I had strange experiences in the night too, but nothing as strong as yours. I'd often wake up and sense a presence in the room. But when I'd look around there would be know one there. But it only ever happened while I was sleeping in that room. It didn't happen anywhere else.
What really freaked me out was the first night I was staying there I brough my cat up to the room with me. She started starring at the bed for a minute and then hissed at it before running out of the room and refusing to go back in! Maybe you should try that, see what happens.

stevenmu

Zapho wrote:

Well the thing is that you are not paralysed when you sleep. If you were, you'd run up a very high risk of getting a blood clot in your leg or something. To prevent this you actually move an awful lot during sleep and its not slight movements either, its complete turn arounds, constantly changing positions.

In a way you're right, you also need to keep breathing and your heart to keep pumping. Sleep paralysis is a loss of voluntary control over your body's movements. It happens because as you dream you brain is still generating the signals that correspond to your movements in that dream. So if you dream that you're walking your brain trys to make your body walk. The problems this can lead to are pretty obvious as is the need for sleep paralysis.

Zapho wrote:

Nah I wouldn't put this down to a sleep problem peachypants, especially if you've never expecienced this before. When I spent a few months at my granddads house I had strange experiences in the night too, but nothing as strong as yours. I'd often wake up and sense a presence in the room. But when I'd look around there would be know one there. But it only ever happened while I was sleeping in that room. It didn't happen anywhere else.
What really freaked me out was the first night I was staying there I brough my cat up to the room with me. She started starring at the bed for a minute and then hissed at it before running out of the room and refusing to go back in! Maybe you should try that, see what happens.

What you're describing here sounds like a totally different thing. Possibly something to do with ghosts or something but I wouldn't know anything about that. Having experienced sleep paralysis I'm pretty sure that that's what peachypants is describing.

akari no ryu

Not being one to jump on the paranormal explanation before the normal one, as it were, I would have to agree with stephenmu's diagnosis. If it is not sleep paralysis, it is probably some other hypnogogic phenomenon.

stevenmu

solas wrote:

Reading the thread has me kinda laughing at the memory of trying to shout, absolutley nothing came out until after a few minutes when I had finally managed to regain control of my body and a great big warrior cry splits the silence....RRAAAAHHaarr..err

Heh, fair play, I would have been happy with a high pitched little girly sqeal, which is exactly what I was trying to do, but nothing came out.

akari no ryu wrote:

Not being one to jump on the paranormal explanation before the normal one

I don't think there is anything inherently paranormal about sleep paralysis, there are paranormal explanations for what's behind it, but I'm pretty sure the phenomona itself is generally accepted by all, or at least most. Kind of like with lights in the sky, some people say they're aliens, others say they're aircraft or weather balloons but nearly everyone agrees that there is in fact lights in the sky.

<edit> but thanks for agreeing anyway </edit>

stevenmu

Thinking back about it again, I can remember that as it was happening it seemed to go on for a good while, maybe a few minutes, but after it was over I kind of felt like it had only taken a fraction of a second, or maybe a few seconds at most. I'm wondering now what other people think about how long it goes on for, I know everybody would be different but I think for most it would be in the same order of magnitude. What do people think fractions of a second, seconds, tens of seconds, minutes ?

solas

for me it lasted about three to five minutes, or so it seemed.
Initially on realising that you can't move panic sets in and it probably seems like longer, trying to shout and all that..hah
the waves seemed to last forever too but was probably about a minute or so, the more I struggled the louder they got and I finally gave up fighting it and tried very hard to understand what the hell was giong on...I did a lot of thinking.
max five minutes in all I think.

Stark

It was probably a lot shorter in real time than 5 minutes, just seemed that long.

I remember it happened to me once. Was the freakiest thing. I couldn't even move my eyeballs or control my breathing conciously. The feeling of being aware of unconcious breathing is pretty trippy.

stevenmu

Stark wrote:

It was probably a lot shorter in real time than 5 minutes, just seemed that long.

That's what I'm inclined to think too. I think that given your mental state at the time you don't really have any perception of the passage of time, at least not like you normally would. Also the fact that you're only barely concious could distort your memories either making it seem longer because of the shock of it or else shorter because you don't remember it fully. I'm pretty sure that people who faint or are knocked out sometimes get a similar feeling when regaining conciousness. For them it seems to take some minutes but it actually only takes a second or two.

I suppose I'll have to try leaving my projecting alarm clock on at night just in case

solas

I've been thinking about it since this thread began and I'm quite definate it was well over two minutes at least.
I didn't feel confused in a space time context, I was very much awake and trying to think rationally. At one stage I thought if only I could move my arm I could flick on my pc and use it to make a call to someone I knew might be able to tell me what happened, but all the trying in the world couldn't make anything work..but my mind and thought processing was completely intact.
I understand how difficult it can be to perceive time in such instances, especially when in panic mode, the smallest time can seem like forever, but after the initial panic settled I had plenty of time to "deal" with the process. Like I said..I did a lot of thinking. The waves which seemed to flow at a rate of about 1/2 a second and I must have endured at least 100 of them.
funny the thing about breathing...I don't even recall being aware that I was, but obviously I must have been.

solas

thought I was dying tbh...

The waves which seemed to flow at a rate of about 1/2 a second and I must have endured at least 100 of them.

can't explain how painful that was, thought it would never end, almost expected my ears to just implode.

stevenmu

solas wrote:

I didn't feel confused in a space time context

Any chance you could describe what that would feel like for comparison ?

The waves your describing sound kind of different to the vibrations I felt, I felt more like I was being shaken and spun round in circles. The closest thing I can think of too it (without getting into things possibly best not mentioned here) is the sensation I used to get when I started drinking guinness and you'd lie down and it would feel like you're on a roller coaster or something. Except it was much stronger and more violent.

I was just thinking about it again there and I was thinking that the reason it seemed so long at the time is because of all the thoughts and sensations that were flying through my head at the time. Then I remembered that my heart was pounding and there was kind of a feeling of a wave rushing out from it and putting pressure on my ears. I couldn't put a number on it how many times it happened now but it did last a while so maybe the whole thing did go on for a few minutes.

By any chance did the waves start in your chest and wash outwards from there ? It's pretty possible your heart rate was up to 120bpm (every 1/2 second)

Stark

I think in that situation you're not supposed to resist the waves (most people refer to them as "vibrations"), you're supposed to relax and let them seperate you from your body. After that you should be able to move around freely in the astral, though you might feel some influence from the etheric energies of your body while your still in the room. I personally found while I was in close proximity to my body while in the astral that I'd be almost blind and totally unable to hold my balance until I struggled out of the room. As soon as I got into my landing I'd completely recover. I know people who were put off astral projection and completely freaked out by the initial feeling.

solas

Any chance you could describe what that would feel like for comparison ?

some other time maybe.

The waves I now associate with brain wave frequencies..it's just we don't generally feel or percieve them in such a physical context.
It was about four years ago but I do recall that time well, I had just started trancedental meditation about 6 months prior and was becomming very adept at it, I was aware of how "open" I had become and increasing my ability to tune into certain frequencies on call. (it's been a while)..I would almost certainly say this led to the experience.
I used to feel sensations very deeply from my heart area..but I just recall the sensation beginning at the top of my head and working downwards, my crown felt like it was being held open with a vice.
I would'nt doubt my heart rate had doubled, but I really wasn't aware of my heart pounding or even breathing..the noise from the waves was too deafening and most certainly had my full attention.

I agree stark..someone else suggested the next tyime it happened to not resist as this just makes it more difficult to "seperate", made sense to me. I have become used to the sensation, it has happen occasionally since but not to such a degree and I'm more able to enjoy those feelings before dropping off to sleep.
I just associate it with deep sleep brain wave frequencies, not really sure I go anywhere
(or at least if I do..I don't remember it)

stevenmu

solas wrote:

some other time maybe.

That was kind of meant as a joke, I didn't really think someone could feel confused in a space-time context let alone describe it but if you did/do/can and are willing then I'll look forward to hearing about it sometime.


As for trying to relax, I do feel it a bit sometimes when I'm falling asleep. As soon as I feel it though I get all excited about it, 'oooh, it's happening again', and of course I end up instantly wide awake again. I'm just way too enthusiastic about it all for my own good.

solas

That was kind of meant as a joke,

I forgot to add the sarcasm tags. (I thought it was funny anyway)

and yea..I do exactly the same it wakes me up, but I enjoy the sensation and almost look for it when it has lapsed.

Steve with regard to the waves vs spinning sensation, the best way I can describe it is to imagine your standing inside a giant bell and someone hits it with a hammer, the reverberations are deafening and come in waves, starting from the top down, I didn't feel like I was spinning at all.
(mother was listening to a buddhist meditation cd last night and a bell was rung three times, reminded me of it..:) )

[ Daithí ]

I experience the loud buzzing in my ears a lot, especially when lying in bed in the morning, if everything's quiet. If I concentrate, I can actually create the buzzing and make it louder. If I think about making it quieter, it will get quieter. The same with making it louder. It's like I have a volume control in my brain.

I've never experienced fully-fledged Sleep Paralysis though, as far as I remember.

akari no ryu

I always here a ringing in my ear. I can turn up or down the volume but never fully shut it out. I can even change the pitch if I try really really hard.

Stark

That might be tinnitus you have. You should see a doctor about possible hearing damage.

SkepticOne

Nice painting here illustrating the weight on the chest effect of sleep paralysis.

• A feeling of being choked or suffocated
• A feeling of someone pinning you down or sitting on you (your chest in particular)
• Being able to hear noises including footsteps and voices close by
• Being able to see beings or dark shadows surrounding or standing near the bed
• A frightening feeling of evil descending upon you
• Shaking of the body or rumbling sensation (ringing) in the ears
• A feeling of untold evil surrounding you or trying to suffocate you
• Noises such as knocking or banging on the walls
• The feeling of being in a dream like state but yet thinking you are awake

source

thafitz

i get sleep paralysis fairly often. i dont get vibrations in my ears but after i snap out of it and try to get back to sleep sometimes i feel these waves going from my brain to my spine and i feel like im starting to become paralysed again so i have to wake myself up fully before i go back to sleep. does this happen to anyone else?

ps skepticone - thats one freaky picture!

Zillah

I think its actualy kinda cute.


And I wish people would stop referencing scientific material from websites with names like castleofspirits.com...

stevenmu

solas wrote:

I forgot to add the sarcasm tags. (I thought it was funny anyway)

oops, some crossed wires there.

solas wrote:

Steve with regard to the waves vs spinning sensation, the best way I can describe it is to imagine your standing inside a giant bell and someone hits it with a hammer, the reverberations are deafening and come in waves, starting from the top down, I didn't feel like I was spinning at all.
(mother was listening to a buddhist meditation cd last night and a bell was rung three times, reminded me of it.. )

I think I know what you mean now. The heart rate idea was as a result of a seperate "experience" I've had which I think is in some ways related to the overall topic here. It did feel quite different to the waves you describe, which I think are pretty much the same as the shaking, spinning sensation I felt, but stronger and more focused. Which makes sense as you seem to be more knowledgeable about and open to this.

akari no ryu wrote:

I always here a ringing in my ear. I can turn up or down the volume but never fully shut it out. I can even change the pitch if I try really really hard.

Definitely see a doctor about that, even if just to rule out any phisical problems.

solas

probably seems more focused because the meditations I was used to doing before hand would start out with opening of the chakras and the process involved allowing yourself to be absorbed in waves of colour. (like going up in an elevator and each floor was a different colour) and the sensation during sleep paralysis was not dissimilar, I just felt every ounce of every wave tho. After the experience it would happen instantaneously when I meditated, which made the meditation experience more powerful and real. (because I could feel it)
But it was too intense and took me a while to figure out how to stay grounded..and not float away at the click of the fingers.
So I don't allow myself to do it anymore.

Chinafoot

well you all lost me a good few posts back.

i'll put it down to sleep paralysis and try and get over it.

SkepticOne

I experienced it once a few years ago. I had the impression someone had gained entry to the room and was standing quietly by the bed in the darkness. I can understand why people would be convinced of the objective reality of their experience and the way it works its way into cultures under different names.

phlematic wrote:

I think its actualy kinda cute.

There was one I was looking for which featured a panther or some other large cat pinning the person down but I couldn't find it.

And I wish people would stop referencing scientific material from websites with names like castleofspirits.com...

Unfortunately I didn't have time to do a proper search. I think the list is fairly standard, though.

delop

The word Nightmare is derived from a German word for a little hairy being (or sometimes an old woman with white hair) the sits on your chest at night.

Solution: Sleep on you right side, or is it left, cant remember, the word 'left' comes from the latin for sinister or severe , you may have heard the old saying 'put your best foot foreward...'

nothing to worry about, there are a lot more scary things that happen when asleep that we dont remember.... Cant hury you, worst case senario is you will need a new pair of boxers :-)

Burago

This pretty much describes it exactly: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_paralysis

googles

solas wrote:

I didn't have those thoughts, which is strange because I am open to the possibility of the paranormal, I was just very conscious that I wasn't able to move and that's just a horrible feeling. It was like being on the inside looking out and not being able to do anything. I tried so hard to move but it was impossible and it was very frustrating. I never associated that sensation with someone sitting on my chest tho..

What did freak me out was the deafening hum, waves and waves of a very loud buzzing sound and it felt like it was sucking me out of my body (through my head) and I was trying very hard to "hold on" and get movement back into my body.

In doing some reading on sleep paralysis, it seems it most often occurs when you sleep on your back, I do recall that I was laying on my back during the whole thing, so I tend to sleep on my front or side (recovery position). Occasionally I get the humming sensation just as I'm dropping off to sleep and it wakes me up again, but I'm more relaxed about it now and almost enjoy the sensation, usually interpret it as I'm really tired and and going to have a very (lovely and needed) deep sleep.

try sleeping on your front or side..and if your nervous about the whole thing keep a tea light burning (make sure its safe and in a purposely designed protective holder)

Holy sh**, I just did a search on this strange thing that happens to me when I am relaxed and I was just wondering if this ever happened to anyone else. I would have never thought it happens to anyone but me. I only read up to this quote so I will finish reading the rest after I write this. I couldn’t wait cause this is been happening to me for years. The funny thing is I do the waves of buzzing sensation at will when I am relaxed but not asleep and I am not paralyzed like the others say they are and i dont feel like i am being sucked back in or anything and i can move all my body parts and stop it anytime i choose. It feels good but when I was younger I used to get scared I may not be able to stop it. I now have much better control of it but lately I had trouble getting the ability to do it due to a lot of fast passed work lately. I have been too hyped up and to do this you must be relaxed. I just wanted to know what it is that I am experiencing. I explained what I go through to a few people but they think im nuts LOL. So is it anything bad or good what I do? Can it cause any damage since I am doing something to the brain I am guess or mind. sometime I am able to get such good control over it I can keep the buzzing wave going for a long time and long buzzes and when I get it really long I do snap out of it because I get worried something may happen where I wont be able to stop it. Again I don’t feel like there is anyone in the room or like someone is sitting on my chest. It’s totally at my will and I can move and stop it at my will and get up out of bed or whatever. Totally just at a relax state of mind and nothing more. Please write back if you can give me any info on this. I am shocked after all these years some other people are going though this strange thing. Wow.

googles

one thing nobody covered about us is maybe we all have something in common. are we hyper people? do we all have or had problems sleeping in past? do we stay up late? are we in good shape compared to most people? are we booksmart or like me have a hard time learning in school? also when i was a kid i got hit in the head by a car. nothing bad just broke my skin but maybe some of you guys had some kind of drama that may have cuase it this common thing among us. i have told other people and nobody knows what i am talking about so there are not that many people with this thing we are having if you consider the world of people. just thought maybe its something more common to happen to people with our habits or maybe not... lol

solas

[sarcasm]I am totally normal.[sarcasm]

dunno really, I think its just got to do with brain frequency.

SHAMAN

calis wrote:

nah there havce been reports of this all thru history and even some very famous paintings depict demons sitting on peoples chests as they sleep. i read about this few years ago but me aul mind is gone and the details have become sketchy.

You're thinking of the incubus.

I imagine someone's already said this but it's likely to be sleep paralysis.

However...

A few years ago I had a very similar experience. I woke up, sleeping on my right side as I normally do. Suddenly, I knew I was being watched; you know the feeling, a kind of prickling along the back of your neck. So I turned over, and confronted a six foot tall dark figure. To be perfectly frank, the best description I can give is basically Death without the scythe. Very tall, thin, no facial features I could discern in the dark. Yet I knew it was watching me. Still half asleep, and convinced it was a burglar, I took a swing at it,still lying down. My hand passed through the figure, or somethign, and connected with my bedside table. OW! Next thing I know it's morning, and my hand is bleeding.

I encountered the figure twice more, eventually getting quite fed up, so I said "Do something or just go. You're keeping me up." And it left. It sounds ridiculous but I still don't know what it was.

tomMK1

about 10 years ago I had a bad case of sleep paralysis. Basically initially i thought i sensed something really really really bad approaching my bed, then i couldnt move at all, i tried to scream and couldnt do that either - all the time still sensing something approaching me - then everything went back to normal in a second. freaked me out certainly.

A few months back I had another experience to do with sleep. Basically i woke up but i was still alseep. I was concious, but i could hear myself talking in my sleep, and to make it worse, I could hear a woman answering me from across the room. Ive no idea what was being said but i went back off to 'sleep' again properly after hearing two of three exchanges of words. Ive no idea what that was about.

googles

you two both watch to many movies lol. i think you where just dreaming but anyway what does that have to do with this topic.

tomMK1

well the thread is about "must have been a dream" experiences is it not?

[Core]

so do you reckon im just going nuts???

Yes.

Zillah

SHAMAN wrote:

You're thinking of the incubus.

I imagine someone's already said this but it's likely to be sleep paralysis.

However...

A few years ago I had a very similar experience. I woke up, sleeping on my right side as I normally do. Suddenly, I knew I was being watched; you know the feeling, a kind of prickling along the back of your neck. So I turned over, and confronted a six foot tall dark figure. To be perfectly frank, the best description I can give is basically Death without the scythe. Very tall, thin, no facial features I could discern in the dark. Yet I knew it was watching me. Still half asleep, and convinced it was a burglar, I took a swing at it,still lying down. My hand passed through the figure, or somethign, and connected with my bedside table. OW! Next thing I know it's morning, and my hand is bleeding.

I encountered the figure twice more, eventually getting quite fed up, so I said "Do something or just go. You're keeping me up." And it left. It sounds ridiculous but I still don't know what it was.

Was it always in bed? Its obviously wasn't sleep paralysis if you were able to swing your arm during it. I wonder. People are paralysed during REM sleep, but people in nightmares are always portrayed as thrashing writhing and moaning or shouting. Maybe you lashed out while still dreaming.

Two thing strike me as odd. You said you hit your arm, how could you have fallen back asleep after doing something really painful to yourself.

Also, you said it was bleeding when you woke up the next morning. Was it bleeding all night?

WellyJ

Zillah wrote:

Was it always in bed? Its obviously wasn't sleep paralysis if you were able to swing your arm during it. I wonder. People are paralysed during REM sleep, but people in nightmares are always portrayed as thrashing writhing and moaning or shouting. Maybe you lashed out while still dreaming.

Two thing strike me as odd. You said you hit your arm, how could you have fallen back asleep after doing something really painful to yourself.

Also, you said it was bleeding when you woke up the next morning. Was it bleeding all night?

You arent allowed ask theses questions!@! They make his story look like a lie

Zillah

When I look at your sig something in my head says "Arrr"...

angeltoes

There are different states of consciouosness, when you're consciousness is shifted you are aware of many other things.Im sure many of you have felt someone staring at you.You're always in a relaxed state when this happens. When you're in Alpha 12.39 ~ 9.9 Hz Start of Meditation level you start to access you're deeper consciousness.If you meditate more you can become more aware of your daydream state which is the level of creation.

I have been studying meditation and Healing states with different people for many years.For example I used to work with Blind and Deaf and some mentally challenged, a completely blind and deaf young woman was approached by me while she was in her bed, I was putting out feelers/my senses to see if I could sense anything, all the while I was getting closer to her bed, next thing her feet flew outta the bed planted them in the middle of my chest and tossed me into the far wall.WOW I was blown away and always very careful approaching her again.I also know of a young blind and also deaf young man who can sense you in the room and come over and whack you.So believe me they're not as helpless as they look.They rely on the senses that we ignore because our other senses keep us so distracted.

I firmly believe that we are all more amazing than modern media and popular culture would have us think. If we disconnected from the sheepitis mentality we'd become more aware of our individuality and uniqueness .