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The most frustrating boss you've faced ??

  • 16-01-2005 10:22pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,967 ✭✭✭


    It would have to be Xaero,the last boss on Quake3 I must have tried at least 50 times to beat him,it was on the hardest skill btw :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,276 ✭✭✭Memnoch


    the guy at the end of KOTR was insanely hard. I mean it wasn't so much so as it was a hard boss as much as the insane difficulty jump it was to when you fight him. Since u have to face him solo with only your main charecter and he has like 10 lives.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 920 ✭✭✭elvis2002


    Try any boss on MGS2, European Extreme Difficulty. Its impossible. One hit, ur dead.


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 18,115 ✭✭✭✭ShiverinEskimo


    Memnoch wrote:
    the guy at the end of KOTR was insanely hard. I mean it wasn't so much so as it was a hard boss as much as the insane difficulty jump it was to when you fight him. Since u have to face him solo with only your main charecter and he has like 10 lives.
    hehe this is funny, i thought it was too easy. once you just ran around and killed all the dying jedi first, he only had one life. hehe. very easy if you have the speed force and the draw life force! Gutted for you!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,396 ✭✭✭✭kaimera


    prolly the 1v1 race toward the end of TRD2. guy drives literally a perfect lap every time.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 8,679 Mod ✭✭✭✭Rew


    The final boos figt at the end of Zelda the Minsh Cap on the GBA, still havent beaten him...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,535 ✭✭✭btkm8unsl0w5r4


    Had to be the boss at the end of Doom 2. Going up on the lift and letting a rocket loose at just the right time...and all the super deamons spawning around you....wow that was really diffucult. Ah nostalgia :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 286 ✭✭Brerrabbit


    Hmm cant remember the bosses name but it was in eternal darkness on the cube; Some huge effing thing in a cathedral; very very annoying.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 8,679 Mod ✭✭✭✭Rew


    Had to be the boss at the end of Doom 2. Going up on the lift and letting a rocket loose at just the right time...and all the super deamons spawning around you....wow that was really diffucult. Ah nostalgia :o

    Reminds me of fighting Hitler at the end of Wolf 3D, great game...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,316 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    Rew wrote:
    Reminds me of fighting Hitler at the end of Wolf 3D, great game...
    That was easy. The level was big enough & the walls to hide behind.

    For me, the dude at the very end of Return TO Castle Wolfenstein was a monster to kill. With God Mode, Unlimited Weapons, it took me nearly 2 minutes to kill him. And oh, it was in a square'ish yard, with nothing much (if at all) to hide behind. I was playing with either medium or hard difficulty.

    The odd thing was, before I killed him, there was one ending sequence, but when I killed him, but then I was put back in front of it, and when I finally killid it, there was another ending sequence. Quite odd.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,396 ✭✭✭✭kaimera


    wtf? you call 2 mins a 'monster to kill'? :boggle:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,339 ✭✭✭✭tman


    Omega Pirate on hard mode Metroid Prime
    i'm sure he's a piece of piss to beat if you have even the tinyest ammount of patience... i don't


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 930 ✭✭✭-oRnein9-


    Memnoch wrote:
    the guy at the end of KOTR was insanely hard. I mean it wasn't so much so as it was a hard boss as much as the insane difficulty jump it was to when you fight him. Since u have to face him solo with only your main charecter and he has like 10 lives.

    Once you figure out to kill the jedi then just run away from Malak or Reven can't remember which he is you play as the other then just a few lightsaber throws and he' s down but it was a bitch fighting all the way to him all those **** on the ship then Bastila a tad dit annoying.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,928 ✭✭✭✭rainbow kirby


    Boost Guardian, MP2E. He's frightening me away from hard mode.
    Omega Pirate on hard mode Metroid Prime
    i'm sure he's a piece of piss to beat if you have even the tinyest ammount of patience... i don't
    If you power bomb the troopers you're much freer to hurt him... normal mode I lose about 35 energy in this fight. And this fight can be done in 2 rounds on hard if you're very fast.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 807 ✭✭✭ViperVenoM


    malak was easy...i just drained all the life from the jedi geezers then he couldnt ..dead in a couple of minutes


    hardest for me is probably fecking Penance (FFX) or however you spell it..the hidden one hidden until you kill all the dark aeons

    12,000,000hp and takes about 4hrs...and can kill u in about 2 goes if u aint careful..as i found out 2hrs into my first stab at him :mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,339 ✭✭✭✭tman


    Boost Guardian, MP2E. He's frightening me away from hard mode.

    If you power bomb the troopers you're much freer to hurt him... normal mode I lose about 35 energy in this fight. And this fight can be done in 2 rounds on hard if you're very fast.
    yeah. the bastid had me down to 50 energy on my second playthrough (the closest i came to dying)

    i've always used my power bombs to shatter the lower crystals on Omega Pirate... might try it your way instead tomorrow...

    nice KOTOR spoilers btw lads


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,272 ✭✭✭i_am_dogboy


    The big mutant guy from fallout(final boss)......well it wasn't hard killing him, but I didn't want dogmeat to die. It must have taken me around 30 attempts before I finally did it....... but it was worth, anything for that dog.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,928 ✭✭✭✭rainbow kirby


    tman wrote:
    i've always used my power bombs to shatter the lower crystals on Omega Pirate... might try it your way instead tomorrow...
    If you set a PB while he's crouching for the wave quake attack (bomb jump once, set PB at high point) you can take off all 4 armour pieces at once...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,502 ✭✭✭MrPinK


    but it was worth, anything for that dog.
    lol. Always bravely charging straight into the line of minigun fire. What a dog!


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,405 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    PC FPS games all seem to have really frustrating bosses because they are always so badly designed. The worst was The uber soldier from RTCW. By the time I got to him I had hardly any health so before I could get cover I was killed. I eventually found a small bit of health and armour in the level and after lots of quick loads I made it to the health at the back of the room. Then I just did the same tactic for every PC FPS boss, hid behind a piece of scenery and shot the slow dense muppet when he showed himself.

    Have to say Velius in FF Tactics on the PS1 was horrible. After an extremely difficult 1 on 1 battle you go up against the horrible velius and his minions. I fluked a win eventually when my ninja got 4 2x max strength hits in a row on him and my knight avoided all the summons since I was using the jump skill :)

    The battle after was even worse. Every time I started the level I lost before I had a chance to take my turn. Had to read a walkthrough to beat it. I de-equipped my main character so the evil fast bitches attacked him instead of the mission critical character.

    The last boss from FF9 was annoying as well since it mostly relied on luck unless you were at insanely high levels.

    And the 1.5 hour battle with the last boss of FF8 didn't please me either.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,255 ✭✭✭TCamen


    Hmm cant remember the bosses name but it was in eternal darkness on the cube; Some huge effing thing in a cathedral; very very annoying.

    That one was quite tough alright.

    I remember taking quite some time with the mid-point boss in the aeroplane in 'Resident Evil: Code Veronica' -- falling out of the plane was annoying. A friend of mine tried to beat him over 50 times and had to start the whole game all over again to conserve enough ammo -- ha ha! :p


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,918 ✭✭✭Deadwing


    Recently (ie saturday) i got my ass kicked consistently by that reolting yet strangelt attractie demon chick in ninja gaiden. F*cking bitch, she cheated, i tell ya! But it felt great to finally give her a damn good kicking and shout 'GOT YOU YOU BITCH!!!' at the tv :D

    Some of the bosses in MP were pretty hard, ridley i remember being quite tough.
    Grandia had some of the most unfair boss fights ever, i remember one fight against 3 women really had me in a f*cking rage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,799 ✭✭✭Doodah7


    I remember the last boss in Star Trek Elite Force. Very easy game all the way through until the massive jump in difficulty for the last boss. Large amorphous blob that spewed energy at you and was practically a one shot kill. Eventually I had to resort to a cheat and then I knew I would never be able to beat it legally.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,437 ✭✭✭Crucifix


    Retr0gamer wrote:
    And the 1.5 hour battle with the last boss of FF8 didn't please me either.
    Disgustingly easy if you play the card game, frustratingly difficult if you didn't.

    Transformers:
    That aircraft carrier. And most of the other bosses in the game, as far as I'm concerned


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,307 ✭✭✭ionapaul


    I played RTCW on medium or hard and I thought the final boss was easy - as someone mentioned, 2 minutes to kill him isn't too bad when you consider it should be the toughest fight in the game!

    One of the level bosses in MGS on the PS1 was a right bastard - the one with the sniper rifle. Killed me loads of times.

    Had to cheat to beat Doom 2 - that level was just too hard for me.

    The final boss / alien baby in HL1 was probably the most satisfying final battle in a game - it wasn't insanely difficult but wasn't easy either. The least difficult when compared to the rest of the game / earlier encounter was the final boss of Serious Sam, it took about 15 tries to get across the plain to the pyramid, very difficult, but he died in one once I was inside. That said, he was probably the most impressive boss ever, he ate his vegetables as a young monster I bet! Wouldn't like to get between him and a buffet table at dinner time! Etc...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,488 ✭✭✭SantaHoe


    The final boss in Red Faction 2... your first time taking on an armoured battle suit when you don't have one yourself... then when you finally blow him up... out he jumps with another giant energy gague... and by that time you're down to practically no health... and to top it off, he has a railgun and will kill you in 1 hit.
    And to make it even more frustrating, you have to sit through a 2 minute cut scene that you can't skip on every attempt.
    The whole game up until this point is píss-easy :(


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 2,432 Mod ✭✭✭✭Peteee


    The boss I have at the moment, he's fustrating.

    Even if I come into work 5 minutes late he's always mad.....

    EDIT: Oh wait wrong thread


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,560 ✭✭✭Boro


    Several of the bosses from Metroid Prime. The huge plant one really annoyed me. Actually all the bosses were bloody annoying!


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,405 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Grandia had some of the most unfair boss fights ever, i remember one fight against 3 women really had me in a f*cking rage.

    Didn't have any trouble with any bosses in Grandia. However saying that I loved the battle system so much that I killed every monster in every dungeon :)
    Disgustingly easy if you play the card game, frustratingly difficult if you didn't.

    True. My first attempt was horrible and I needed evil tactics (thank god for triple). My second time through the game I annihilated him but it was more down to understanding the junction system this time around and drawing lots of magic and using the +1 stat increases.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,928 ✭✭✭✭rainbow kirby


    Several of the bosses from Metroid Prime. The huge plant one really annoyed me. Actually all the bosses were bloody annoying!
    Flaaghra? He's ridiculously easy! Even with 99 health starting!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,339 ✭✭✭✭tman


    Flaaghra? He's ridiculously easy! Even with 99 health starting!
    aye. and he's the only boss on hard mode that doesn't take an extra pounding :)
    he's like most of the bosses in prime 1 & 2. complete **** until you figure out their weaknesses


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,023 ✭✭✭[CrimsonGhost]


    Pyr0 wrote:
    It would have to be Xaero,the last boss on Quake3 I must have tried at least 50 times to beat him,it was on the hardest skill btw :)

    Xaero is relatively easy. Just grab the rail and hide behind a pillar. Snipe him. Other level personally I found harder to beat on NM. It's a great feeling when you get them all beaten on NM though. PM me if you want a demo of how to beat Xaero easily and I'll do one up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,023 ✭✭✭[CrimsonGhost]


    Diablo on HELL difficulty in Diablo II. Never managed to beat him. I think it's impossible personally.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,716 ✭✭✭✭Earthhorse


    Probably seems quaint in retrospect but in the original SFII M. Bison was as tough as nails. He just used to torpedo or head stomp your ass out of it. The fight was often over in seconds. They seemed to tone him down in later versions until he became no more difficult than most of the others.

    The boss at the end of Level 2 of R-Type III on the SNES also stands out as particularly tough. He sends wave after wave of creatures after you and you can only hurt him when his eyes are open. Very tough to avoid being hit. Subsequent bosses in the game were tame by comparison.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 17,068 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    all boss fights in Ninja Gaiden on the xbox... i suffered as far as level 7 and then when i got to that boss fight in the church/cathedral i just couldnt take it anymore. Even the earlier boss fights seem more difficult than most games ending boss's its crazy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,918 ✭✭✭Deadwing


    Gonzo wrote:
    all boss fights in Ninja Gaiden on the xbox... i suffered as far as level 7 and then when i got to that boss fight in the church/cathedral i just couldnt take it anymore. Even the earlier boss fights seem more difficult than most games ending boss's its crazy.

    Gonzo thats where i got stuck on saturday. If i had hair i wouldve been tearing it out, the boss fights in that game are just ridiculously hard (apart from that tentacle thing which is piss easy compared to the rest). I eventually got her tho, in fact, i absolutely battered her, only used one health potion. God it felt good :D Bit of a hint, just keep moving and doing the air dash thing to hit her, when shes on the ground, beat the crap out of her, if she gets too close to you while shes floating use the ice magic to get rid of her so she doesnt do that damn lift-smash attack.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,421 ✭✭✭Doodee


    Roma in the Uefa Cup final in CM 03/04, ****ing batistuta. made me cry :(

    And the first time i tried to beat the Final boss in DOA2 on the DC. He just seemed impossible, you couldn't get close enough and he countered everything, not so tough now though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,502 ✭✭✭MrPinK


    Goro, from the original Mortal Kombat in the arcade. Cost me a bloody fortune, and at 11 years old I didn't really have money to burn. Then when you finally get past him and face Shang Tsung, that guy spends the whole time transformed as Goro and you have to go through the same thing all over again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,325 ✭✭✭Q_Ball


    Gonzo wrote:
    all boss fights in Ninja Gaiden on the xbox... i suffered as far as level 7 and then when i got to that boss fight in the church/cathedral i just couldnt take it anymore. Even the earlier boss fights seem more difficult than most games ending boss's its crazy.

    I've been stuck there a while now. Excellent game tho.

    Right now i'm stuck on the magnificent 5 level in viewtiful joe 1. i had a hard enough time getting past them once, to have to do them one after another made me cry.

    Ah well, on to burnout 3 i suppose


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,241 ✭✭✭Steven


    When I was a kid I seem to remember having a ridiculous amount of trouble with the last Ridley fight in Super Metroid but, playing it now, he isn't nearly as terrifying.
    I remember the last boss in Star Trek Elite Force. Very easy game all the way through until the massive jump in difficulty for the last boss. Large amorphous blob that spewed energy at you and was practically a one shot kill.

    Maybe you mean Elite Force 2? Only played the first one myself, which will henceforth be known as the shortest progression based FPS that ever has and ever will exist (One goddamned day!). Hmm, actually EF is a lot easier to say. Mild
    The last boss in EF was this big brown guy who was built in to the wall and threw lots of charges into the air. He was easy as hell to avoid and shoot (seeing as he couldn't move). The problem with him was there was no visual feedback to show he was taking damage. I was shooting him continuously for 5 minutes with all my big guns and he looked and behaved exactly the same way as when I started. I ran around that room looking desperately for some kind of control panel or power source when all it took was a few more shots.
    Conventional bosses usually don't work very well in FPS games. The tentacles in HL were pretty good though. What makes FPS games good is intelligent enemies and some good locations for scenarios to play out (or just a shedload of scripting).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,316 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    ionapaul wrote:
    Had to cheat to beat Doom 2 - that level was just too hard for me.
    It took awhile, but all you had to do was to get onto the level, and dodge the missiles for a bit, using the BFG only on the flating red blob things.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,405 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Conventional bosses usually don't work very well in FPS games. The tentacles in HL were pretty good though. What makes FPS games good is intelligent enemies and some good locations for scenarios to play out (or just a shedload of scripting).

    I find conventional bosses in FPS games to be really out of place. They usually are just big stupid bad guys that absorb bullets or the Quake find button press button variety. Metroid Primes bosses work because of the control system is very rigid so 2D boss elements and sequences can be brought in along with some new 3D ones. Only a few have worked on PC FPS. The tentacles worked because they where handled very differently from any other boss and Gonarch (sp?) was okay because the atmosphere was right. The final boss however was terrible. Only other good FPs bosses on the PC I can think of are the bosses from Undying other than the last one. Again not great but the atmosphere was excellent since the levels were leading up to the showdowns and nothing could beat the satisfaction of
    cutting off elizabeths head:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,241 ✭✭✭Steven


    I complletely agree (except about Gonarch). I find that FPS bosses work much better when they're not treated as such, and instead treated like big nasty enemies... I'm not sure how to get this across.

    Take the Predators in AvP as a (poor and slightly stretched, for reasons of point verificaton) example. There's no drastic music change when you approach them, no health bars appear to tell you how close they are to death, you can run away from them if the terms of the engagement are unfavourable but that doesn't mean they're any less of a boss.

    Most importantly, I think, is that they don't take 2 minutes of constant fire to down. They kill you if you make a mistake or back carelessly around a corner giving them plenty of time to disc you for a one hit kill making them dangerous without being monotonous. That's usually (but not always) the reason FPS bosses seem like a chore rather than a challenge. That's the reason I wasn't too fond of Gonarch.

    I'll come back to this if no one else can think of a better example. God knows I've played enough FPS games to come up with one decent one.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    The final fight in Rune was a bugger. Cormack, I think his name is. You literally can't do it unless you "cheat" by using your invisibility power and staying behind him. Of course, I only found that out after several dozen attempts at a fair fight. I was more annoyed that he could be beaten so easily than finding out everything else proved impossible...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,276 ✭✭✭Memnoch


    hehe this is funny, i thought it was too easy. once you just ran around and killed all the dying jedi first, he only had one life. hehe. very easy if you have the speed force and the draw life force! Gutted for you!

    well i played as a full light jedi so i didn't have that get that ability :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 402 ✭✭Energizer


    I know this boss wasn't difficult for most people, but demon gate in ff7 gave me a really bad time, once u think u have him beaten,
    he'd drop a big rock on ur head and kill u!

    God he pissed me off! :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,013 ✭✭✭SirLemonhead


    Alma from Ninja Gaiden, also. :\


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,446 ✭✭✭✭amp


    Retr0gamer wrote:
    PC FPS games all seem to have really frustrating bosses because they are always so badly designed.

    System Shock 2
    Deus Ex 1
    Half Life 1/2

    All of these contained final bosses which required cleverness and not just careful timing to beat. You should really learn to use the word "most" instead of "all".

    Getting back on topic, I have yet to beat what I think is the last boss on FF:X. I say "think" because god damn that game is long.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 807 ✭✭✭ViperVenoM


    pam wrote:
    System Shock 2
    Deus Ex 1
    Half Life 1/2


    Getting back on topic, I have yet to beat what I think is the last boss on FF:X. I say "think" because god damn that game is long.

    well all the dark aeons are fun
    :rolleyes:

    and dont even start on penance the rest of game is easy compared to them!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,817 ✭✭✭✭po0k


    Metal Gear or Metal Rex or whatever the fig you call it on MGS on the PSX.

    Couldn't beat him, left down the controller after 9 or so tedious hours, switched it off and haven't played the PSX since.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,405 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    System Shock 2
    Deus Ex 1
    Half Life 1/2

    Now I wouldn't call them true FPS games.

    The last boss of FFX really annoyed me as well. Just when you think you have a survivaable method to beat him he changes his attck pattern and gets even more evil. You could always use Yojimbo :)


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